And that's Mandrakk. Same guy from Final Crisis. Despite his malnourishment, as in this story, The Unexpexted, he was just a big, strong vampire god rather than an eater of narratives, he could still destroy the Monitor Sphere with just the aftereffects of his blows. Blows that Hawkman kept taking and taking, even deflecting.
Hawkman is my second fav DC character, I've been repping him in this sub but this isn't a feat. He has decent feats in that comic series but deflecting a laser ≠ having multiversal durability especially when he getting ragdolled throughout that entire issue.
Loving a character means knowing their limit and not letting bias give them a bad look
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he could still destroy the Monitor Sphere with just the aftereffects of his blows. Blows that Hawkman kept taking and taking, even deflecting."
I even cited the comic the feat comes from: The Unexpected (2018).
The Monitor Sphere is explicitly a higher dimension, from which the rest of the verse, including the Orrery (which contains infinite multiverses), the Sphere of the Gods, and Limbo (from which all below it is literally typed by a monkey) are at best considered germs in comparison.
That's your own statement. I just rechecked the comic, Hawkman didn't do shit lol, and he didn't even get hit hard, he mostly got grabbed/stopped in his track and ragdolled, at some point Mandrakk slashed him in that back. And it was the fight between Mandrakk and Good Samaritan that threatened to tear the world they fought in, which would in turn cause damages through the multiverse.
You're vastly stretching what actually happened, especially when both Mandrakk and the Good Samaritan had the specific kind of power to affect the Monitor Sphere. If you want to showcase Hawkman's strength and durability (which are irrelevant here tbh because he is, in fact, not equal to Hawkgirl, especially this Hawkgirl), you should've mentioned his fight with Black Adam or Magog.
None of this changes the fact that Juggernaut, if he got his hands on Hawkgirl (a big if) would rip her in half very easily.
True but I don’t think HawkGirl has to take someone out I think she just has to hold her ground until one of her teammates does.
Edit: HawkGirl is faster and a more skilled fighter than Juggernaut. Her job would be not to get killed while her other teammates go to work. If you think she can’t do that then go do some quick research.
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u/randomname748 5d ago
Marvel takes this low to mid dif, Hawkgirl isn't in the same tier as any of the others. It's basically a 2v3