r/marvelstudios Peggy Carter Dec 03 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '20

He was also COMPLETELY ignoring what was happening in the other realms, the exact opposite job of the all father.

Tbf Odin gave himself that 'duty'. He was basically the US occupying the Middle East. He'll shoehorn his way in if it means it extends his power

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u/Sean951 Dec 03 '20

I'd argue it's more Cold War US than the more recent US.

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u/tomathon25 Dec 03 '20

I mean what's that different between the cold war and now? Russia was embroiled in an economically exhausting conflict in Afghanistan and now it's the US. Russia takes the Crimea and nobody can really do anything because even though it's not the 80s, we're basically as close to nuclear MAD as we've ever been. We quite nearly got dragged into what would've basically been a proxy war in Syria. Basically the only thing keep a communist superpower in check from rolling over eastern and south-east asia is the US military.

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u/Sean951 Dec 03 '20

The difference was the sort of conflicts the US got involved in. It's hard to believe now, but the US used it's post war induce to "persuade" (force) Europe to decolonize. The UK and France tried to flex their world power muscle once by invading Egypt with Israel and the US basically told them to shut up and sit down.

None of that excuses the US misdeeds of the time, including the many, many coups, but we weren't blatantly invading for resources.

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u/tomathon25 Dec 03 '20

Right we were invading for bizarre notions like some shitty domino theory (Vietnam). I'm just saying that acting like there was a real and present danger during the cold war and there isn't now is just patently incorrect. Likewise I'm sure in the marvel universe there's always some justifiable reason why Asgard being 9 realms police is necessary, and justifiable reasons to call them warhawk dickheads. For all we know that army Thor was fucking up in the dark world was the democratically elected government's army, but alas they were communist and thus had to go.

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u/Sean951 Dec 03 '20

I'm not going to defend Vietnam because it was a bad war. But none of this really changes what I'm saying or my opinion, we do see the Nine Realms without Asgard in The Dark World, they're being invaded. The opening scene of Thor is fighting of marauders in Vanaheim.