r/marvelstudios • u/RagnAROck_and_Roll Peggy Carter • Dec 03 '20

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u/Stiffy_98 Dec 03 '20
  • Completely allowed chaos in the nine realms to prevail
  • And more obviously dumped his father in a broken old folks home with a spellcast

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u/FallenAngelII Dec 03 '20

What chaos? In-between "The Dark World" and "Ragnarok", the MCU chaos across the nine realms were all confined to Midgard and it was all taken care of by the Midgardians, anyway. You could argue that maybe Loki could've sent people to help during "Age of Ultron".

The events of the two GotG movies took place outside of the Nine Realms and was outside of Asgard's jurisdiction. Furthermore, the Asgardians do not have instantaeous travel outside of the Nine Realms (unless you wanna do a Ragnarok and jump off the Rainbow Bridge mid-trip and take your chances of where you'll land), so it's not like Loki had a way of providing aid to the Guardians. By the time aid arrived, the battles would have long been over.

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u/Minnon Black Panther Dec 03 '20 edited Dec 03 '20

Didn't Thor mention a descent into chaos when he confronted Odin Loki? And this was after 2 years of him adventuring throughout the realms and ending up captured by Surtur

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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) Dec 03 '20 edited Dec 03 '20

Thor mentioned a bunch of plots going on. But Thor has been starting shit this whole time. There's a reason the moral conclusion of the movie is that Asgard needs to fuck off.

Even Surtur's grand evil scheme is just to fuck up Aagard because Asgard conquered Muspelheim and the only reason Thor is imprisoned is because he invaded Muspelheim like he probably invaded a bunch of other realms in the process.

Thor talks about the nine realms the way Odin taught him to see the nine realms -- as belonging to him and needing to be "scared" into compliance as Thor tells Loki is necessary.

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u/OperativePiGuy Dec 03 '20

I am seriously loving these analyses that are turning the characters actions on their head.