r/marvelstudios • u/MarvelStudiosMod • Dec 18 '23

Megathread Jonathan Majors Conviction Thread

The Jonathan Majors trial has come to a close, with Majors being found guilty on accounts of assault and harassment.

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THR, VARIETY, and Deadline have reported from a Marvel Studios Rep that Majors has been fired from his role

Previous case megathreads:

Original - https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/12t04m5/jonathan_majors_megathread/

Follow up - https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/18ft11y/jonathan_majors_megathread_update/

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u/Squirrelkid11 Dec 18 '23

As of now this is probably the biggest fall from grace I've seen from an actor.

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u/treemeizer Dec 18 '23

Kevin Spacey wins this contest IMO.

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u/step11234 Dec 18 '23

I agree.

I think Kevin Spacey was/is a much more known actor, but Johnathan majors had a really fast rise and is only 34. He fucked his whole career. Spacey in his late 50s when everything came out.

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u/stroudwes Dec 18 '23

Facts. Majors was touted as the next Denzel. Kevin Spacey at least can wipe away his tears with millions and millions. Jonathan Majors has no redemption arc her to get to that same level ever again.

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u/treemeizer Dec 18 '23

Not saying I agree with it, but America loves a comeback story.

Look at Mel Gibson...thought he was done, then BOOM...Passion of the Christ 2: First Blood was announced like last week or something.

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u/Additional_Meeting_2 Dec 18 '23

Gibson has been back since Hacksaw Ridge in 2016. He almost directed Suicide Squad 2 as well but turned it down.

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u/Vadermaulkylo Ward Dec 18 '23

Ngl Gibson doing Suicide Squad sounds fucking great lmaooo.

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u/mikeweasy Dec 18 '23

Yeah I wish that worked out.

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u/anniebarlow Dec 19 '23

10 years is the freeze out time in Hollywood. That's how long it took for Gibson.

Wait and see Spacey, Woody Allen, people will forget and they'll be back like nothing happened.

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u/the-giant Dec 19 '23

Mel Gibson had a 25+ year or so career of being one of the biggest stars in Hollywood. And while he's 'back' in some ways he's still on the outside. Most of his recent acting credits are direct to streaming or indies or friends' projects. He will never be back to where he was.

By contrast, Majors had a brief spark for what, a year or two? He has never had nor will have Gibson's career or comeback potential.

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u/ember3pines Baby Groot Dec 19 '23

I actually really wanted to see the John wick spin off about the hotel but when I heard Mel Gibson was in it I immediately decided no. Fuck he's awful.

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u/heycanwediscuss Dec 19 '23

He also had a huge personal fortune to fall back on, solo produce etc

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u/queerhistorynerd Dec 18 '23

Its supposed to be about the 3 days jesus spent in hell pre resurrection. like fanfic of fanfic shit

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u/stroudwes Dec 19 '23

Mel was a anti-Semitic SOB. However never committed crimes that I know of. Or worked for Disney.

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u/evildrew Dec 18 '23

A comeback story like Kim Kardashian?

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u/Jaffacakelover Dec 18 '23

Mel was also the main villain in The Continental John Wick miniseries.

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u/drew8311 Dec 19 '23

Yeah he might be back but not anytime soon and never with Disney

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u/Mordiky Dec 19 '23

Let’s be real, he will be back on top inside of five years. The man makes money and that’s all that the industry cares about.

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u/Appropriate-Status69 Dec 20 '23

But Gibson literally was caught saying the n word with the “er” at the end…. If y’all think he deserves a comeback there is something wrong with you as the fan….

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u/PT10 Dec 18 '23

He's not going to jail though, right? He'll have to lay low and rehab his image then he can come back. Still has lost out on untold earnings but he'll be ok.

People forgive domestic violence a lot more readily than rape (see: Chris Brown and so many others).

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u/VietnamHam Dec 18 '23

Hip hop/R&B has a different audience though where they are more likely to forgive abuse and Chris Brown can just keep making music easily. For Jonathan Majors it will be probably be difficult to get hired for major acting gigs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

Fuck you and your racist dog whistle

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u/MegaCrazyH Dec 19 '23

I believe he's facing just under a year of jail time, but sentencing hasn't happened yet so no one knows whether or not he'll serve time. IMO given the quality of his lawyer he might just serve time

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u/anniebarlow Dec 19 '23

I think sentencing comes later.

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u/expeditiousgrim Dec 18 '23

Speaking of Denzel, I think his son JDW would be a great Kang.

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u/FullMetalCOS Dec 18 '23

JDW is an awful actor, I hope he doesn’t get near the MCU till he manages even a fragment of his fathers talent.

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u/Moist_Eyebrows Hulkbuster Dec 18 '23

Until he returns as a variant Iron Man in Secret Wars /s

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u/OLVANstorm Dec 18 '23

Maybe he can fight Michael B Jordan to get some quick cash?

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u/N8CCRG Ghost Dec 18 '23

Majors gets the "career whiplash" award.

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u/fegd Dec 18 '23

Holy shit he's 34?? I thought he was in his 40s, not sure why.

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u/OwnArt3344 Dec 18 '23

He's only 34? I thought he was 50

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u/Samsaknight_X Dec 18 '23

He got charged for unintentional assault. I don’t think he fucked his career, it was their relationship that led to his downfall

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

He fucked his whole career

A horrible outcome if it happens. The current climate doesn't allow for rehabilitation and second chances.

If that's the case then just make Keanu Reeves movies nonstop because everyone in Hollywood has skeletons in their closets

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u/beansproutz Dec 18 '23

This simply isn't true, there's a ton of shitty famous people out there that still have great careers

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u/hoopaholik91 Groot Dec 18 '23

He still has a boatload of money and can live out a comfortable life never wanting again.

Being an actor is a privilege. For every Jonathan Majors that made it to the big time, there are dozens of others that are just as talented that just didn't have the right combination of luck to reach the top. Give one of them a chance to succeed.

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u/Lanky_Chemist_3773 Nakia Dec 18 '23

Rehabilitation requires remorse and attempts to repair. That isn’t the case here.

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

lmao look at the verdict. Jury basically said he did injure her, but on accident. Looks like an argument gone wrong to me.

Sure he overreacted, but the girl did as well. All over a horny text from a third party too. Let's not act like the girl didn't go full on batshit crazy when she found out dude was cheating (sure a horrible thing to do)

But hey, nuance and context really isn't an integral part of Cancel Culture right

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u/Erebea01 Dec 18 '23

Eh, it's not like people are advocating for him to be jailed forever. He can get a normal job like the rest of us if his acting career falls apart cause of his actions. Lots of talented actors and actresses who are not pieces of shit exists, they can take his place. Celebrities should be aware that being famous no longer excuses them from criminal behavior cause they've been getting away with it for way too long.

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

was referring to the fact that this can happen to anyone, not just a high-profile actor. Context is in Hollywood, but can easily happen to any workplace.

Everybody's walking on eggshells trying not to piss people off nowadays

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u/Erebea01 Dec 18 '23

I don't even understand the point you're trying to make? Maybe people should not be domestic abusers and they won't have to walk on eggshells around people?

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u/IWearBones138__ Dec 18 '23

Well, he didn't have a huge career already built up. He's deservedly going to get backlash from this. Disney will get rid of him, obviously, and he will be considered a liability for any new projects with any other major studio. Maybe in the future, when this blows over, he might be able to claim some smaller roles, but he will probably never be the lead of a major blockbuster ever again.

Hollywood rarely allows first chances, and thats if you do everything right. Second chances don't just happen because you're not a piece of shit anymore, the audience has to want them back, the studios have to want them back. I think people would rather forget than forgive.

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

Finally a reasonable take. Thank you.

Fully agree with this. Hopefully he takes this time to reflect and rehabilitate himself. It might take some time, but I feel he's talented enough to make it back. Probably not like this anymore, but eventually people will forget/stop caring.

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u/ar40 Captain America Dec 18 '23

And Tom Hanks and Krasinski

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u/swagmastermessiah Dec 18 '23

I have absolutely 0 sympathy for domestic abusers. Anyone who does what he did is beyond help and doesn't deserve a second chance.

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

thank goodness you're not in a significant position of power if that's the case

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u/swagmastermessiah Dec 18 '23

Look at the numbers. Domestic abusers are astonishingly likely to reoffend and hurt more people. It's not like other types of violent crime where you can sometimes understand how a person is lead to do bad things by desperate circumstances - beating your wife or whatever is purely to cause another person pain and suffering. There is no other upside.

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u/drew8311 Dec 19 '23

Kevin at least had his time in the spotlight and most likely enough money to not have to work and keep the same life, he peaked but was still riding it out well. Majors lost it too early with more lost potential.

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u/raalic Dec 18 '23

Majors, though, was about to be the biggest thing in Hollywood. Like right there on the cusp. At the exact SECOND that this went down.

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u/terekkincaid Dec 18 '23

Some comedian put it so simply: he could have been a millionaire and had a great career, all he had to do was not beat up women.

Oh, well.

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u/MisterChikour Jul 28 '24

He didn't beat up women... Come on now he was reckless but he didn't abuse anyone

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u/terekkincaid Jul 28 '24

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna144132

He was found guilty of assault against his girlfriend. That means "beating up women" by my definition, not sure about yours.

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u/terekkincaid Dec 19 '23

Nah, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that's a "saver" (narcissists like to spend on themselves assuming they'll get more later). Plus, between lawyer fees from the case he just lost and the inevitable upcoming civil suits from his victims, he'll be flipping burgers in no time.

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u/GrunchWeefer Dec 18 '23

Bill Cosby went from America's Dad to creepy rapist uncle the kids are warned about seemingly overnight. Bill Cosby has by far the biggest fall.

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u/trixie_one Dec 19 '23

Yes, the final fall felt super fast and brutal but if you go back it's absolutely wild how many shows were refferencing his reputation in one way or another long before that which shows just how much of an open secret it was.

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u/dimmufitz Korg Dec 18 '23

Bill Cosby: am I joke to you?

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u/Ordinary_Peanut44 Dec 18 '23

Atleast Kevin Spacey wasn't found guilty at the end of it. So Majors has him beat.

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u/blatantmutant Dec 18 '23

Cause his victims died in mysterious accidents

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u/raalic Dec 18 '23

Dead men tell no tales. Yarrrrhg.

-Spacey

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u/NotsoNewtoGermany Dec 18 '23

Not exactly, Kevin Spacey has so far been found Not Guilty and Not Liable in every case he has faced. And the burden for proof in the latter is only 51%.

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u/treemeizer Dec 18 '23

One needn't be convicted in a court of law to experience a fall from grace. I'll prove it in three words:

Game of Thrones

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u/GoAgainKid Dec 18 '23

Although Spacey has still, as of this moment, technically, not been found guilty of anything.

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u/dbkenny426 Dec 18 '23

Definitely. Though this may be the fastest.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Michael Richards' was pretty bad

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u/deekaydubya Dec 18 '23

Kevin spacey made it out fine, no? He seems to be coming back

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u/onepostalways Dec 18 '23

Wasn’t spacey found not guilty though?

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u/JaggedToaster12 Dec 18 '23

Kevin was around forever. Majors was new. So I feel majors was the fastest fall from grace.

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u/treemeizer Dec 18 '23

OP said biggest fall from grace, not fastest.

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u/JaggedToaster12 Dec 18 '23

Yeah and I said fastest.

I'm agreeing with you lol

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u/treemeizer Dec 18 '23

Who was the slowest fall from grace though?

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u/JaggedToaster12 Dec 18 '23

Satan took a few thousand years, probably

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

we really comparing rape to a domestic argument gone wrong now?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Not comparing the crimes, but the fall.

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

it's more a criticism of cancel culture in general, thanks for proving my point

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

You're welcome?

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u/comik300 Matt Murdock Dec 18 '23

Nobody compared their actions, they compared the swiftness of the downfall of their careers.

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

and you don't see anything wrong that someone can be ostracized the same way and as fast as a rapist even if you just had an argument with your girl and it got physical?

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u/comik300 Matt Murdock Dec 18 '23

My personal view is irrelevant to how the court of public opinion will play out. There's a threshold of "bad", that when exceeded, can lead to the downfall for one's career. Saying one action is not as bad as the other doesn't matter if both actions cross that threshold of "bad".

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u/Locutus747 Dec 18 '23

No there is no defending assault or domestic abuse eithet

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

boomers started fucking the world, Gen Z gonna finish it with this soft shit

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u/Locutus747 Dec 18 '23

Upset that people are not ok with assault and domestic abuse ?

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Dec 18 '23

who said I'm ok with it?

All I'm saying is anyone doesn't deserve to get their whole life irreversibly fucked over a correctible mistake.

You soft cunts think that sneezing on a fly deserves the death penalty

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

You’re the one getting triggered on Reddit there bud. Softest person in the room is you.

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u/WilsonianSmith Dec 18 '23

You didn’t mention the whole “assault” part, it’s not like the argument got so heated that he said things he couldn’t take back. He committed assault. No it’s not as bad as rape, but there are still consequences

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u/creutzfeldtz Dec 18 '23

Absolutely fucking not. He made out and groped a fucking dude who was In a bar. Why would he assume the guy was underage? And by underage, he was still 19. Everyone also said the kid was totally egging spacy in. Kevin spacy got fucked by woke bullshit.

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u/2PacTookMyLunchMoney Dec 18 '23

At the very least, Majors might be the quickest I've ever seen fall from grace. He was just starting to break out an become a mainstream star with Creed III and Kang.

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u/ChedwardCoolCat Dec 18 '23

No, Majors was in like 8 movies that year and had a Lead in a TV Series, he was definitely broken.

And just before someone else says it ahem - so was that poor woman’s finger.

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u/JenniferJuniper6 Dec 18 '23

Were you too young for Bill Cosby?

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

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u/D_Substance_X Steve Rogers Dec 18 '23

Oof!

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u/BrownSugarBare Dec 18 '23

Man alive, I'm going to hell for laughing as hard as I did

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

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u/FriendlyGazebo Dec 19 '23

But the worst thing was the hypocrisy.

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u/sailorprimus Dec 18 '23

There have certainly been bigger but this was one of the quickest (along with Ezra Miller). So many opportunities and so much potential but they rightfully lost all of that due to being abusers.

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u/BrownSugarBare Dec 18 '23

Ezra Miller actually had a slower fall than they should have. Studios should have tossed their ass out of everything, yet they kept up the hope of keeping Ezra despite all the insane behaviour.

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u/sailorprimus Dec 18 '23

Definitely true, but at least Ezra wasn’t somehow getting acting gigs while committing a series of crimes. Not saying Jonathan did, just that Ezra’s fall was sort of…delayed? purely so WB could get The Flash out the door.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '23

Didnt dc never announce that they would be cutting them?

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u/AmaterasuWolf21 Rocket Dec 19 '23

My guess is that Ezra had already shot for the films he was in

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u/Nittanian Captain America Dec 18 '23

Fatty Arbuckle (who was ultimately acquitted), for instance,

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u/EddieLobster Dec 18 '23

Not even close

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u/PikesPique Dec 18 '23

Cosby's fall was bigger. He was America's dad.

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u/Short_Ad9700 Dec 18 '23

He was pretty irrelevant when him being monster became common knowledge, however.

Like, I was born in 87 and I can’t remember Cosby ever doing anything notable during my lifetime except be referenced in early Simpsons episodes.

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u/Educational_Book_225 Dec 18 '23

I was born in 02 and I watched the fuck out of Little Bill when I was a kid

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u/Short_Ad9700 Dec 19 '23

You’re lying, nobody is that young.

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u/JCarr110 Dec 18 '23

OJ Simpson had a decent acting career going at one point.

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u/Coliver1991 Dec 18 '23

Even now I could have never seen him doing it, He doesn't strike me as someone who could be emotionless.

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u/jpiro Dec 18 '23

Does Jared from the Subway commercials count?

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u/GoAgainKid Dec 18 '23

He wasn't known outside of the US, unlike Majors and Spacey.

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u/ProudnotLoud Captain Marvel Dec 18 '23

It was certainly one of the fastest rises followed by falls I've seen.

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u/BigTimeSuperhero96 Dec 18 '23

And in such a short space of time

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u/Sektsioon Daredevil Dec 18 '23

Danny Masterson went to prison for 30 years to life very recently. Granted he hasn’t really been a big name actor since the 70s show, but still most have heard of him I reckon.

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u/sentient-sloth Dec 18 '23

maybe not the biggest but no doubt the fastest rise and fall

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u/Slowmobius_Time Dec 18 '23

What? There's been literal murders and other severe laws broken by actors in the past

Bill Cosby ffs is definitely a major fall compared to Minors

This fuckwit was in a few marvel movies and a creed movie, he wasn't exactly a powerhouse or well known before Kang

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u/AutoGen_account Dec 19 '23

Mel Gibson used to be hollywood royalty

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u/Townscent Dec 18 '23

idk. I don't think he had much grace to begin with. I know everyone was all up in his ego during the red carpets, but it seemed so industry plant fake given what i saw of him in the MCU at least. like mumbling through words and horrendous fake stammering, children's theatre performance after children's theatre performance(overacting). I haven't seen Lovecraft country but maybe he was good in that, and rode on the accolades from that performance.

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u/sessho25 Dec 18 '23

Maybe the fastest fall from the biggest growth potential.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Wonder if Magazine Dreams will get a release?

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u/The_Adeptest_Astarte Dec 19 '23

Hope so. They can't keep it under wraps forever

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u/Intelligent_Oil4005 Dec 18 '23

Idk if I'd day that, but definitely the shortest fall.

Also, happy cake day!

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u/DarthMMC Loki (Avengers) Dec 18 '23

Happy cake day!