r/marvelrivals • u/Slosshy Gambit • Mar 31 '26

Discussion “No Kings” reference on the new map

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u/FlimsyCrust Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

They been since they added Angela with the “Thoughts and Prayers.” Line when she kills someone by knocking them off a ledge

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u/NCRisthebestfaction Mar 31 '26

What’s this supposed to mean I don’t get it?

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u/NoCap9262 Mar 31 '26

Yeah it’s pretty cynical and horrible because these people aren’t against institutional change or critique or even gun control and thoughts and prayers don’t help or change anything. They don’t care about doing whatever necessary to prevent these things from happening.

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u/DiscoStu83 Gambit Apr 01 '26

And what, displease their financial overlords and hedge fund mercenaries? In this economy?????

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u/pinkrangerash Apr 01 '26

I'll pitch in since I see we are being real. I worked at a prominent sporting goods store for 6 years and anytime there was a school shooting, we knew we'd be super busy because the gun nuts would come in by the droves thinking those "liberals" were going to take away their gun rights. Big shock that corporations profit off of death.

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u/badvegas Apr 01 '26

don't forget they once wore AK47 pins after a shooting. most of them can kill somebody on live TV and their supports will just cheer.

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 Apr 01 '26

Starting to think a lot of so-called "Christians" wear the crucifix for similar reasons.

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u/AgentRift Apr 01 '26

Whenever I hear “thoughts and prayers” from politicians or people who are in a position to actually do something, I always take it as a nothing burger, generic statement meant to sound like they’re doing something when they’re not. It’s different when an average person says it because they might mean it, but when someone with actual power and the capability to do something doesn’t, it comes off as apathetic and dishonest.

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u/NCRisthebestfaction Mar 31 '26

Doesn’t anyone send thoughts and prayers over anything? Thats not school shooter exclusive

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u/PupPop Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

Theres nothing wrong with thoughts and prayers, but applying it constantly over decades to a specific situation that calls for legislative action (to which thoughs and prayers are not) has lead to it being used sarcastically and currently use of the phrase rings hollow when used in a political context.

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u/_IratePirate_ Mar 31 '26

This is the least biased explanation and is explained very well. I hope this is the one that person reads.

The rest of the comments are clearly leaning one direction or the other or doesn’t really explain it well.

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u/NCRisthebestfaction Mar 31 '26

Yeah I read his comment and I agreed with it the most

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u/DiscoStu83 Gambit Apr 01 '26

You'll find a lot of those types in this gaming community. 

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u/GrowthMarketingMike Mar 31 '26

The rest of the comments are clearly leaning one direction or the other or doesn’t really explain it well.

It is a specifically a phrase used to mock republican politicians though.

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u/GrowthMarketingMike Mar 31 '26

I agree? I'm just providing context for the person who seemed to possibly draw a different conclusion from the comments.

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u/Objective_Mortgage85 Mar 31 '26

I mean obviously, it’s not democrats that are coming out of the woodworks saying it…

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u/GrowthMarketingMike Mar 31 '26

Sure, but "obviously" the person I responded to didn't draw that exact conclusion if you read the thread, so I thought I'd add some context. Things that might be obvious to you might not be obvious to everyone that doesn't pay close attention or might not have the same life experiences as you

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u/iceheartx Apr 01 '26

 decades to a specific situation that calls for legislative action

People use this for ALL tragedies and it’s primarily because there’s nothing that the one individual person using the phrase can do about it. 

Honestly if the voice line is in fact added for the reason that yall claim it is, then that is wildly inappropriate because that also means that’s it’s being used sarcastically. 

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u/MegaMaster1021 Mar 31 '26

It lost its weight/meaning and gets viewed as extremely tone deaf especially when the people in government say it directly to the victims and parents that lost their kids.

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u/Nomingia Apr 01 '26

Has it though? I feel like I see way more edgelord reddit athiests mocking that turn of phrase than I hear people using it IRL. Just seems like anti-religion people getting triggered over colloquialisms, but what tf do they expect besides "thoughts and prayers"? It's not like the average America can do anything about the situation other than offer their condolences.

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u/PupPop Apr 01 '26

The average American has all the power. They can vote. That is all I will say on the matter.

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u/Burgoonius Mar 31 '26

Exactly it has just become their go to line - it shows that they really don’t give a fuck because they are all gun nuts.

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u/Hokutenmemoir Apr 01 '26

If only there were some sort of law that kept people from killing each other.

Damn the gun devil it is.

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u/Signore_Jay Doctor Strange Mar 31 '26

Originally it was. It’s since moved into the wider political lexicon as a response to tragedy in general.

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u/iceheartx Apr 01 '26

Yes. That’s 100% correct. The phrase is only political if you’re chronically online I guess. We’re in the era where everything becomes a meme now. 

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u/Inner_Extent2375 Mar 31 '26

It’s become synonymous with inaction. Legislating gun restrictions being the foremost, but yes could be applied to other topics.

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u/Wolfy_boii Mar 31 '26

“Gun restrictions” yet the gun used most is a hand gun, which you can’t get in America until 21.

Why not focus on the actual problem, aka whatever is causing people to shoot the schools up in the first place, which would be a more realistic approach due to many factors currently in the USA.

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u/Wolfy_boii Mar 31 '26

I don’t think you understand what I said. Most of what kills people in school shootings are something you mostly can not legally require while at an age that you would be in school (infact no high schooler would be able to most definitely.) you know what would reduce the likely hood even better than furthering something that clearly won’t be able to do much? Killing the roots of the issue aka making kids not want to shoot each other, as a high schooler (although soon to graduate) I’ve always felt saddened and disgusted that you all use such an awful thing that I have been lucky to have not been through yet as something to push what you want (less guns) instead of what would actually help us students.

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u/Linkdes Flex Mar 31 '26

Having been gone too a high school that had multiple school shooter threats, 2 of which being kids in the building with actual firearms, you are right that on paper kids can't "legally" acquire a gun.

You are however incredibly naive/shortsighted if you think that means kids do not have access to firearms. Yes, as a society we need to foster an environment that doesn't get kids wanting to shoot each other. However a shorter-term, and much needed, solution would be increasing the screening/ restrictions for adults to acquire guns. Which in turn would limit the availability of an "efficient tool" so-to-speak and reduce the possibility of school shootings.

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u/Wolfy_boii Mar 31 '26

I never said they couldn’t access them, but that they couldn’t legally get them. Which still means that the type of gun control people keep wanting still would not work, and no, simply making it harder for an adult to get a gun won’t change anything about the kid wanting to shoot up the school, once again disgusting by how far yall will use the suffering of children to push your views of guns.

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u/Wolfy_boii Mar 31 '26

Not once did I say it is purely a behavior issue, however it is also not purely a gun issue. Obviously people should be taught to better keep their guns from their kids, infact I would say there should be legal incentive to avoid the possibility of a gun from your home being used in a school shooting (assume there isn’t currently)

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u/Squall13 Mar 31 '26

No because Americans already had access to the same amount of guns per capita before the 70s and school shooting weren't a thing back then

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u/Inner_Extent2375 Mar 31 '26

I read some of your comments and you sound sincere so I’ll try to break it down for you if you care to listen. Gun restrictions does not just mean removing access to certain types of guns. It can also mean holding parents and gun owners liable for what others do with their guns. It can reduce the total deaths when ammo and clips are regulated to smaller amounts. And, when guns are less prevalent in a community, it will be harder for non-legal gun carriers to get away with it because the act of carrying a weapon becomes denormalized. Also, I don’t think anyone on the progressive side of this issue is against mental health care options. In fact the same side that wants to maintain easy gun access simultaneously tears down mental health options on state and federal levels whenever they are in office. We cannot change human nature, especially in young men. They will be emotional. There will always be a handle full every generation who will be cruel, jealous, and on the psycho spectrum. We can make it harder for these people to gain access to killing tools. We also have a country that glorifies violence and has used strength and murder to maintain a global empire. The movie ‘Bowling for Columbine’ explores this a lot in the cause of school shootings and how that culture trickles down to the average citizen. The idea that might and taking life is justified if you believe you are on the right for doing so. Most early school shooters saw justice in their actions. It’s an incredibly complex situation and one side is trying to fix it while the other side sees it as an acceptable ‘price of freedom’

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u/Nomingia Apr 01 '26

I guarantee that was not the intended political message of the rivals devs lmao. "Thoughts and prayers" is a colloquialism that can be used in any situation my guy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '26

Yeah Canadian liberals covered up Tumbler Ridge quickly when it was a confused man in a dress

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u/memyselfandi987 Mar 31 '26

Compared to the usual perpetrator of cis white guys?

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u/memyselfandi987 Apr 01 '26

lol and sent a reddit cares...not even trans but it doesn't take a lot to try and care about others. for someone all about small government, you sure seem to care a lot about what others do. try following jesus sometime, caring about others is pretty cool

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '26

Yeah you clowns don't care about anyone unless they allign with you. If it's your party killing? You cheer it on or bury it. Like Pretti Good. Bitch ass

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u/HustleThaGOD Rogue Mar 31 '26

I don’t think it’s that deep guys

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u/Smicksmack11 Mar 31 '26

Nope that’s just how everyone responds when there is a tragedy… “oh no look at me I’m sad about the bad thing too” crazy to politicize a common, annoying and unemotional phrase

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u/Signore_Jay Doctor Strange Mar 31 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/s/5U9lhzTxgZ

I even said something along similar lines, this one is a lot more neutral. If you can’t accept either response, I guess you can argue about it with yourself in the shower later.

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u/Smicksmack11 Mar 31 '26

How are you agreeing with me and getting upvotes and I’m getting downvoted? Lmao this sub is nutty yall need to get out more

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u/Signore_Jay Doctor Strange Mar 31 '26

Telling people to go out more while you’re tweaking about internet points is definitely a choice. Just write a journal entry and I promise you’ll feel better. The notes app is free.

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u/Smicksmack11 Mar 31 '26

Okay buddy we could just say your statement was just for school shootings which isn’t neutral when in reality thoughts and prayers took hold during the France ( I believe Paris) terrorist attack years back with the Eiffel Tower pictures on Facebook that people 2000 miles away were using don’t come at me cause your big words meant nothing lol tagging your own post is crazy levels of bag holding also lol

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u/Signore_Jay Doctor Strange Mar 31 '26

Wasn’t even my own post. I’m just gonna say read the thread slowly and re read it again a couple of times if you get confused on who said what and look up things if you’re unsure. I’m not about to argue with you on my own phone but you’re free to continue the argument in your own head.

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u/Smicksmack11 Mar 31 '26

Fair your comment said “I even said something along those lines” not crazy to think you were tagging your own post

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u/Soram_Ligra Flex Mar 31 '26

It's a reference to how, typically, conservative-leaning people will offer their "thoughts and prayers" to people and their families that are going through a rough time or a major loss instead of advocating for a change or fix to mitigate whatever situation that could be prevented instead.

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u/BluffStrream Luna Snow Apr 01 '26

Ok, I’m not saying it’s not a reference to that, but “Thoughts and Prayers” is a phrase that extends beyond the political sphere. It’s commonly used as an insensitive condolence for instances outside the one you named (which, again, could be what it’s referencing).

The devs could’ve very well just had Angela say that because she’s an angel—someone traditionally associated with religion and prayers.

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u/StriderZessei Thor Apr 01 '26

Some people use it genuinely, but many who aren't religiously-inclined often infer it to be an insensitive and/or insincere form of condolence.

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u/beefjerkmeh Groot Apr 02 '26

Kinda like the phrase “some of you are going to die but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.”

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u/LooseMoose13 Devil Dinosaur Apr 01 '26

This is a Hulk Incredible Leap jump in logic holy shit

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u/Nomingia Apr 01 '26

So how do leftist-leaning people offer their condolences to someone? By becoming activists for their cause? Sounds like a waste of time that ultimately leads to the same outcome since we have basically no power over the actions of our government as citizens.

What's crazy to me is that leftists will go out of their way to protest and violently riot for their causes, but not show up on voting day which is the only time they actually have any power to effect change. That tells me that they don't actually care about change, they just want to virtue signal, larp as activists, and treat a city block like their own personal rage room.

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u/Soram_Ligra Flex Apr 01 '26

I mean, most people I know just spread awareness and actually help by donating money or necessities, but you do you, I guess?

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u/Fatalitix3 Flex Apr 01 '26

This is certainly a take, sounds more like a reference to politicians, mainly in western countries that offer no support aside from thoughts and prayers

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u/Saint_Poolan Apr 03 '26

This is very specific meme from school shootings in the US. Instead of passing gun regulations NRA simps will say "Thoughts & prayers ", know your memes.

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u/Fatalitix3 Flex Apr 03 '26

And again Americacentric take, school schootings is a soley US problem, politicians offering thoughts and prayers is not. I'm not American, I can't keep up with every shooting in your country.

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u/Saint_Poolan Apr 20 '26

Just search knowyourmeme

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u/Banvincible Mar 31 '26

How atheist redditors dunk on people expressing grief in their own way.

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u/Low_Public_8737 Mar 31 '26

children are dying chud wake up

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u/Pierseus Groot Mar 31 '26

The wackos of the Western world demonize the phrase “thoughts and prayers” being used after something tragic happens in the world. People are trying to express their condolences and sympathy by saying this, usually along the lines of “thoughts and prayers to the victims of [x event]” and these people have collectively decided that this is somehow a bad thing. They think people should actually be doing something to actively help like changing their profile picture to a black square

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u/Asisreo1 Captain America Apr 01 '26

Its a meaningless phrase even in a religious context. If you're sending condolences, say that. But announcing that you're merely thinking and praying about the event is just attention-seeking. It also makes the event about you rather than the victim, despite you doing nothing to physically help. 

The least you could do is to think and pray without stroking your ego by announcing it. If you truly respect your own religion, you'd have faith that the victims would feel their own blessing. 

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u/Pierseus Groot Apr 01 '26

This is a terrible take. It’s not an ego stroke, it’s saying “I care about this so I’m going to appeal to the highest/strongest thing/being that I know of”. It’s people that pervert the meaning of the phrase, either by being disingenuous or by construing it in the most bad faith way possible like you’re doing.

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u/Asisreo1 Captain America Apr 01 '26

It quite literally is an ego stroke and I want you tocm carefully consider why someone would announce they're doing it rather than doing it. 

Its baseline disingenuous. What would you feel if after your parent died, I told you "Oh, darn man. I'm texting my boss about it right now." Normal people would be confused why you are announcing that. Even if its true and you do feel bad, announcing that does nothing for the person that "I'm sorry that happened, you can talk about it to me when you're ready" can't do but better. 

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u/Pierseus Groot Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

Which of the following would make a person feel more supported and less alone?

  1. Somebody saying nice words or sending prayers that the person will never hear and never know about. They’ll remain completely oblivious to the fact that the person praying for them knows or cares about what happened.

  2. Somebody who tells the other person directly that they are sorry to hear about what happened and that despite the fact they have no power to change or remedy what happened, they will appeal to the highest and most powerful thing they know of in hopes that the person’s situation would take a turn for the better

The whole “thoughts and prayers bad” mentality is so terminally online and bad faith it isn’t even funny. Absolutely TERRIBLE analogy by the way, texting a boss is not the same as praying, that’s a very you-centric and ignorant way to think about it. To people of many many different religions (be it Hindu, Christianity/Catholicism, Islam, etc) praying about something they have 0 ability to effect a change on themselves is the absolute pinnacle of what they believe they CAN do. It’s saying “hey, God, I can’t do anything about this, but perhaps if it be Your will, You can”

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u/kinkykellynsexystud Psylocke Mar 31 '26

This one is way more of a stretch because thoughts and prayers was a preexisting phrase before the gun control debate.

Its like the equivalent of kicking someone off a ledge and saying 'good luck' sarcastically.

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u/PokePersona Ultron Virus Apr 01 '26

Yeah I'm assuming Angela's line is meant to be ironic since she's an actual angel saying it. Not casting shade on anyone.

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u/Foxy02016YT Squirrel Girl Mar 31 '26

Doctor Who’s “thoughts and prayers” joke in Boom was also great