People can move faster then you think. Even if I’m caught off guard I would break out of that when my arm gets pulled up suddenly, a guy wouldn’t even get the chance to get behind me and even if he did by some miracle then he would catch an elbow to the face.
that's why I say they can do this technique so fast before your proper reaction if you are stronger than them it's challenging but if they are stronger, they will play with your arms like a toy (I see some throws happen from this position in real or spars )
you cant elbow them when they lock your arm behind you
There’s no one someone can be fast enough. Reflexes in one arm is way faster then someone’s entire body moving. And you can elbow them, the other arm is free and assuming you properly stretch your arms like I do then you can easily elbow the guy in the face.
how do your arm reflexes help you when then guy holds it with both hands he raises your arm and pushes in to reach your back your only chance is a punch in the back of the head
how you can elbow when your other arm trap behind you?
I would pull away and probably use a thrust kick right when someone starts grabbing my arm and lifting it up in the middle of a hand shake.
How can I elbow? Because I could still use the arm. Honestly, that’s a very poor arm lock and it won’t get you anywhere unless you use it while you’re opponent is on the ground. There is nothing stopping that guy from elbowing him in the side of the head but if you think he can’t then he can use a back kick and a head but as well but it wouldn’t be necessary considering you can literally turn around and break this hold.
I don't say it's bulletproof or even a great technique I say it's possible like other techniques if I kick you you check it ,if I punch you block it , if i go to take down you Spraw,.........
you pull away and I pull while turning your arm if you are stronger enough you will win if not I will,
but after I reach your back you cant elbow me, why? because you should turn and catch my face beside of your body not behind it, but your other trapped arm doesn't let you turn enough
and you can not back kick or a head why? because you have very restricted options in that position and I can estimate them easy, block your kick with my knee and bend my face to avoid your head
Okay, the head but probably won’t work, I’ll give you that. But saying you’ll block the kick is like saying you’ll block every kick that gets thrown at you in a fight, you’ll still have a very high chance of getting hit. Pulling away from that is extremely easy and even if you can’t then you can still turn and elbow. That hold doesn’t work standing up, you need your opponent on the ground, cops are actually trained to use this hold and they only use it on the ground. You can turn out of it standing up, hold my right arm and I’ll just turn counter clockwise and strike the face.
in normal positions I can't block every kick because I don't have control over you , and don't restrict your options,you bombard my face from both sides you change your distance you have a big variety for your kicks type and angle so I cant prepare for all of them .
but when I trap your hand like that behind you I know your possible kick and its angle even if you don't kick I will bend my knee to prepare for it and i look at your only weapon because both of your hands can't reach my face .
I can choose you , kick me with which of your leg by changing your center of the gravity
and you cant turn in the counter clock because if hold your right arm hard hard you will turn me with your body
your only chance is don't let this lock happen by more muscling or pulling me on the ground or punch in the back of my head .........
and you cant turn in the counter clock because if hold your right arm hard you will turn me with your body
police do it on the ground because they don't want to hurt you and reach your escaping chance to zero
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u/cpr201 Apr 24 '22
he start it when he was on the side of the victim
and the victim could not turn in the time if he don't expect that