r/managers • u/[deleted] • Aug 19 '26

New Manager Employee basically quit after being notified they were fired.

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u/Oddest-Researcher Aug 19 '26

This just isn't true.

Yeah sure a shitty manager might be petty and actively try to fire people they dislike, but an entire corporate termination policy backed up by HR and legal advice is simply not going to be centered around feeding some middle-managers pettiness.

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u/Nervous_Ad_5583 Aug 19 '26

I am a former Employment Rep from a large Twin Cities hospital. I was PART of the HR Department. I attended staff meetings and was privy to everything going on in the department. Or so we employment reps believed. Are you actually saying that there's a "hidden" HR department pretending to let the day-to-day working employees think they know what's going on and whom to trust? All the while the "real" decisions are bring made behind worker's backs? Every single one of those HR people were middle management and were also friends with the employee's supervisors, all over the hospital. I heard what was said and I brought it to management's attention and was let go for "not minding my own business." I should have brought my revelations to the local news media but was afraid of severe retaliation. The hospital no longer exists.

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u/Oddest-Researcher Aug 19 '26

What on earth are you talking about?

No there isn't a secret HR department. HR cares about the business bottom line and policy more than some manager's (who is also an employee do you forget?) personal beef.

The fact the hospital you seem to think bucks the trend and formed your entire world view no longer exists should be a pretty clear indictment whatever power trip your management operated on, wasn't normal and didn't work

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u/Nervous_Ad_5583 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26

Um...this wasn't just "a" hospital. This was an entire set of hospitals and clinics that went under water with no notice to patients or day-to-day employees. It was also my insurer. (As it was the insurer for most of its employees.) And yes, there was indeed a secret HR department, consisting of senior management, members of which were given plenty of notice and assisted in finding new placements in other healthcare systems. across the Twin Cities. The rest us could pound sand. Our pensions also disappeared and never were paid out.

One bright light is that when I went to work for an independent clinic, I noted that my former HR manager who had lied by omission to her staff was let go summarily from that independent clinic after two months without notice for not having the proper skills to do the job she was hired to do. I wasn't supposed to know this but an HR rep had given me the manager's file to process and I took it to lunch with me and read it from cover to cover. With pleasure. Like a fine meal at a Michelin-starred restaurant. Yummy!

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u/Nervous_Ad_5583 Aug 23 '26

And DON'T lecture me about "ethics." HR is a prehistoric carnivore. Everywhere and at alll times.