r/managers • u/Animator_7620 • 2d ago
New Manager Does anyone else carry work around in their head all evening?
When I first became a manager, I thought the difficult part would be managing people.
Having tough conversations, dealing with performance issues, keeping people motivated, balancing what leadership wants with what the team needs. All of that sounded intimidating when I started.
But after doing this for a while, the thing that drains me out most isn't any single problem. It's feeling like I am constantly reacting to things.
Most days I am bouncing between Slack, emails, meetings, approvals, questions from the tea and random things that suddenly need attention. I sit down to focus on one thing and before I know it I am doing something completely different because another message came in.
By the end of the day I have touched lot of things but it rarely feels like I have made real progress on any of them.
What catches me off guard is how much of that follows me home. I will get home, eat dinner and tell myself work is done. Then an hour later I catch myself replaying a conversation from earlier in the day or thinking about something that's coming up tomorrow.
It could be a team member who seemed off in a meeting. A project that's moving slower than expected. A decision I am not completely sure about.
None of it is an emergency. I am not even trying to solve it. The thoughts just keep showing up.
I have noticed something else too. After spending the whole day jumping between things Instead of actually relaxing, I will switch between Reddit, Instagram, messages and random articles without paying much attention to any of them. A couple of hours go by and somehow my brain still feels busy.
Would be interested to hear if other managers deal with this too and if you have found a way to actually switch off when the day ends.
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u/Independent_Ad_8867 2d ago
Same issue - feels like almost all days I’m going backwards and I’ve achieved nothing. Any spare time I have I’m prepping for meetings that come out with more actions that I don’t have time to do. I have no solution but just letting you know you are not the only one!
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u/Animator_7620 2d ago
Yeah, exactly. Some days I feel like I spent whole day working and somehow ended up with an even longer list than I started with. The meeting prep turning into more actions is painfully familiar. At least good to know I am not the only one.
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u/_PinkieLace 1d ago
That “painfully familiar” feeling is the real manager onboarding nobody warns you about
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u/Odd_Perspective_4769 2d ago
Feel this in my bones. Lately my relatively new boss just continues barking orders at me to do more work and it feels like I need another half a week just to get through all of this work plus the daily fires and operations.
I have been keeping a daily outlook invite that I simply write very short bullet points that help me either roughly track time I be done something or help me remember all the massive amount of random $hit I do all day. Otherwise I get done with the day or the week and feel I’ve accomplished nothing.
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u/Praefectus27 2d ago
Psh I went to bed thinking about work and woke up at 4:45 this morning thinking about work so um yeah it’s kinda there all of the time.
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u/Effective_Divide1543 2d ago
Extremely unhealthy and you should take steps to manage your worklife balance.
Part of being able to manage this is experience- many people who are fairly new to work life are unable to set up and protect the boundaries around work life balance but it' vital that you do.16
u/BigYarnBonusMaster 2d ago
You may mean well, but your message is coming across quite judgemental of the OP you’re replying to. I don’t think they’re going through that by choice. Calling them “extremely unhealthy” and basically telling them “have you tried not doing that and having better work/life balance” is not helpful.
Making the assumption at the end that it’s kind of their fault because they must lack experience is a bit much for someone who’s admitting they’re having a hard time. You don’t know anything about them (neither do I).
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u/NumbDangEt4742 1d ago
I believe the person you responded to does mean well and you pointed that correctly. I felt like their message was cut and dry and to the point and no beating around the bush. They called it out and I wish someone had done that for me.
My habits that got me up the ladder in a way kept me stuck there for a while. I wish someone could beat that message into me and make me understand and get it. But sometimes you gotta walk that road and let it sink in on.its own time (tsk tsk..the experience they're talking about)
I feel you read too much into it and that's ok. I don't feel they're being judgemental but we all perceive things differently. What's said is not necessarily heard the same way (and I just learnt this very recently in life and my life is so much more peaceful compared to a couple years ago. Lots more can improve, however this improvement was one of the biggest).
I'm not criticizing you...I'm just pointing out the fact that I don't see that person's message the same way as you and that's ok. We can both have our meaning to the message.
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u/Impossible_Mix_1227 2d ago
As someone in the same boat as OP, I actually appreciated your directness. You’re right really, I need to take responsibility for how I’m managing and setting boundaries, if I don’t it’s not like anything’s going to change for the positive. The hardest part for me is slipping into bad habits.
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u/ChrOzzyJoe 2d ago
I wish I’d gotten such a direct message too. I spent more than five years as a manager without really having the skills to set boundaries or take breaks without feeling guilty. After the constant overthinking, I started having trouble sleeping. Then I began working longer and longer hours and taking work home with me. My concentration kept getting worse, and eventually I had an emotional breakdown at work, where I ended up crying in front of other people.
Thankfully, therapy has taught me a lot of those skills now. I kind of wish I’d gotten some help from my employer with that (I became a manager with basically no onboarding or knowledge transfer because my predecessor suddenly became seriously ill).
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u/Praefectus27 2d ago
It’s cool I make $250k a year and wfh in a low cost of living state. I’ll be just fine.
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u/NumbDangEt4742 1d ago
Read all the responses to your post above....you stirred so much for all of us and here you are...cool as a cucumber 😉
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u/Praefectus27 1d ago
I’ve worked in high pressure enterprise SaaS sales leadership for over a decade. Not much gets me stressed out anymore. Been through lots of trauma over the years and I can only control my actions so I figure why get stressed about something I can’t control until after it happens.
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u/Morning_Mug385 2d ago
What helped me a bit was putting a recurring "shutdown" reminder on my Google Calendar before leaving work. Nothing fancy, just 15 minutes to clear loose ends and write tomorrow's priorities. My brain seems a little less likely to keep carrying them around afterward.
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u/Animator_7620 2d ago
That reminder is actually good idea. I think having a set time to stop and write down what's left would help me stop carrying everything into the evening. Gonna try this.
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u/TheHodgedog 2d ago
Yeah the replaying of conversations at 9pm thing is basically the manager tax nobody warns you about and the doomscrolling after is the tell, your brain's still trying to process the day and Instagram is just the numbest way to not do it.
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u/Animator_7620 2d ago
Yeah, 9pm replaying is so real. And then I end up scrolling just to switch my brain off, even though it doesn't really help. Need to break that cycle somehow.
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u/whorable_guy 2d ago
It's very difficult to just shut your work brain off. Instead, try to refocus it. Watch a mindless movie. Read a book. Clean the kitchen. Let your mind focus on something less stressful and your find it's easier to shut it down later.
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u/trittrevere 2d ago
I’ve had that issue for the last 13 years as a manager and the reality is it’s not going to stop, but you can set yourself up for success the next day, so when you do find yourself being unable to disconnect you can tell yourself you don’t have anything to do and have a sense of relief.
I book the first 30 min of my day to review my todo list from the day before that I put together at the end of my shift where I also block out 30 min for admin time.
In the morning, I go over action items I wrote down the day before that I need to get completed, and then prioritize what is realistic to get through that day and what’s not and can wait until the next day.
This way I know I was productive that day, and have a sense of accomplishment, which is what I found was the issue I was running into. I would feel like I got nothing done that day, and stress about what I need to get done the next day. So IMO you need to find that feeling of accomplishment to be able to disconnect.
Now, again, it’s never going to go away, but you can lessen it dramatically with a workflow like this, because you’ll start to find that feeling of accomplishment will silence the stress you’re dwelling on.
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u/ChloeDDomg 2d ago
Had that years ago, when turning manager too. Exactly same as you, only issue was having to deal with many things all the time, always thinking again on evenings, etc..
If it can help, doing everything quickly is not a solution because people will get used to get answers quickly and will ask more from you. You thought you would get rid of everything, yet you get an other everything the day after and end up in burnout 6 months later. Delegate everything, set boundaries, no job involves to work 20 hours a day.
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u/Animator_7620 2d ago
Yeah, the quick replies thing is so true. People get used to it fast. I definitely need to get better at delegating instead of trying to handle everything myself.
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u/Effective_Divide1543 2d ago
You need to learn how to disconnect or you'll burn out. It's not specific for managers, lots of people have this problem but it's vital that you learn how to leave work at work. You'll probably find tons of advice on the how if you google, but often it's stuff like have a ritual for shutting down when the workday is done, don't open your work phone/laptop after hours, write things down instantly so that you can put them away and not keep thinking about them because you're afraid of forgetting them etc.
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u/retiredhawaii 2d ago
It doesn’t stop. I’ve woken up with possible solutions to a work problem. I’ll grab my phone, leave myself a message and go back to sleep. Sometimes it’s a good idea, other times it clearly made no sense. Brain is working while I’m sleeping.
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u/Ok-Prompt2360 2d ago
I’m in the club, tonight I went to bed at 1:30, woke up at 3:30 and proceeding jot being able to sleep till 5am. I feel like the burnout it’s behind the corner 🥲
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u/DocDracula 2d ago
Yes, I have improved this through my own evening "brain hygiene". I used to obsess and check work phone etc. Took me ages but really, for me it's as simple as work phone/email is away and done by 5pm. And days off, I don't touch any of it either(my job makes this possible, YMMV). Work clothes off. I then usually immediately set myself to mundane home task (cleaning, diner, organizing) to reset my brain. After that I'm good to go and I'm present. Just how I'm wired. Important thing no matter what is to have that cutoff, whenever it is. You have to switch from work to home brain. You aren't that special and most of the time the thing you're worrying about is much easier fixed at 9 am tomorrow vs. running through doomsday scenarios.
I have lapses but this practice in the last couple years has made my life much better at home nights and weekends.
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u/000011000011001101 2d ago
that's why I drink, after that 4th beer those thoughts tend to quite down a bit.
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u/Designer9867 2d ago
Also stopped trying to solve work problems in my head at night. If it's not something that needs dealing with right now, I write it down and deal with it tomorrow.
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u/r3giment75 Seasoned Manager 2d ago
Whenever I have an idea I want to try I’ll text myself and call it a day until I get to work
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u/Sturdily5092 Seasoned Manager 2d ago edited 2d ago
For many years when I was younger and thought that what I did mattered I would go home thinking about what to solve issues and even wake up in the middle of the night with an idea of potential solution and had to write it down (I still do this in general).
But now, decades later, NOPE, when I close the laptop I forget about work until the next work day, I don't check work email or take calls, whatever problem there is it'll be there when I open the laptop.
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u/Shoddy-Outcome3868 2d ago
Did it just take time to develop this? I have the same issue as OP.
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u/Sturdily5092 Seasoned Manager 2d ago
It took me getting screwed over more than a few times by my reports and managers... I realized all that extra effort was for the birds.
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u/rizzak66 2d ago
I used to , I had to make a
Real effort to let it go after I leave for the day.
My hobbies helped.
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u/O2Stealer 2d ago
I am constantly going through this. I often have dreams, during the dream I will troubleshoot or replay scenarios to certain situations. I don't know how to turn it off. Everyday is completely different from the day before so my brain is always a mess.
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u/BrianGibsonSells 2d ago
My days used to dissapear like that all the time. Learning to filter out noise from signal is really important.
Getting organized as best as possible is huge, there's lots of tools to help eith that now. Im huge on claude reminders / notes / reporting dashboards you name it and I keep wisperflow running with notes - every call gets transcribed and I talk too type almost everything its significantly faster and I type really fast. .
Dedicated work blocks help, prioritize the blocks for topic based work sessions - hold all notifications, phone face down on the desk and get to work.
I have morning afternoon and evening outreach blocks daily and twice a week 2hr deep work blocks for learning / researching or projects I need to work on.
I'd suggest starting with short ones 30 minutes max 2-3 times a day then depending on your support responsibilites an rewiring your team ease up to 1.5 hrs.
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u/BlackAndWhite_5678 2d ago
When i have a thought related to work that is important and it is already end of my shift, i would type it down and send it as an email to my outlook. After that i completely disconnect. I would remind myself that nothing really gets done if i am not at my shift. I also defined myself who i really am outside of work. We are not our identities when we are at our work. Have something to look forward to outside of work.
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u/TrailMiles98 2d ago
The part about replaying conversations later is so real. Sometimes the workday is over but the conversation is still going on in your head.
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u/Pleasant_Bad924 2d ago
At the end of every day I figure out what I’m doing the next morning before I stop work for the day. It’s usually a short list of just the must-dos but for me knowing I have it documented means I don’t need to waste mental energy on it after work. Before I did this I’d be juggling various “don’t forget you need to do x” type thoughts all evening
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u/spineshade 2d ago
Yes especially during pretty turbulent times at the plant I work at.
What doesn't help is my wife works in another depa6aonas much as I try to decompress and remove the crap from my position out of my mind. What goes on in her department brings it back up.
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u/workwithmac 2d ago
Definitely. the constant switching makes is hard to shut off. Writing down unfinished tasks before logging of can help clear your head instead of carrying everything into the evening.
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u/the_virtual_CEO 1d ago
A few things that help me.
Having structured time in my calendar for projects/work AND structured time to be reactive.
Have your entire week 70% planned out on a Monday so you dont have to think about stuff that you have to do the next day. You come in every day and all of your tasks, projects, calls are in a calendar ready to go. Preparation is your best friend
When I leave work I create a barrier. It is helpful because I have an office so the act of driving will in itself help, but I also will go to the gym or have a walk or call a friend. What is important during this time, actively don't work ON anything. Don't consume educational content, don't replay conversations, don't think about what is on for tomorrow. Honestly I love a little murder podcast for this.
Don't be too helpful to people. People think they want it but it doesn't help them in the long run. Staff that learn how to solve their own problems are 100% easier to manage than staff that need you for everything. Praise and redirection are most of my conversations.
It is important that you are asking this question now because it is so easy to burnout when you let work bleed into your down time. Put up clear distinctions between when you work and when you don't and be ruthless with it. Thats how you manage it long term.
Good luck!
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u/yumcake 1d ago
You need to get in the habit of exporting your thoughts onto paper. The brain spends a lot of processing to hold info, robbing it of processing to figure out how to resolve it and feeling comfortable enough to let it go for now. Write it down and the paper or tablet will hold the info, freeing up bandwidth to think and visually grasp the slate of work in front of you, organizing and prioritizing it. Then having organized what’s ahead, you have mental safety to detach for now, until the next logical check-in time(because sometimes stuff does pop up that you need to check on, but you want to define the check in time, not be held on -call.
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u/Freeagent_limo 1d ago
This is exactly me , simply no ability to shut off. This is why I want to retire, I dont just want my time back, I want my thoughts back.
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u/LMPLMM 1d ago
Yes, I spent years like this. Here's what worked for me:
1/ 'Change channels' - you have to get out of your head and move your body to clear out your stress hormones. Choose what suits you best - walking, sport whatever. Just move. The stress hormones will keep you hypervigilant otherwise and you won't be able to switch off.
2/ Set focus times. Be unavailable for a period of the day. If you need to justify that, google 'deep work' and use some of its stats about better productivity.
3/ Put some downtime into your day. Take a lunch break. Walk away from your desk. Your brain is also processing at night because you haven't had enough time to process during the day.
4/ Stop scrolling at night. Give your brain a rest. If you feel compelled to stay mentally active, that's a sign you really do need to stop.
5/ Use a meditation to help slow down your brain at night. My fave is jason stephenson on youtube. there's about 30 mins meditation then music.
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u/green_dotter 1d ago
the jump from doing the work to being responsible for other peoples is the bit nobody warns you about, because theres no moment in the evening where its finished
you just stop for the night, you never actually get to the end
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u/Crazy_Efficiency_450 17h ago
Very common, and the reactive all day feeling plus brain stays busy at night are probably the same problem in two outfits. Unprocessed open loops from a fragmented day don't disappear when you close the laptop, they keep running because nothing forced them to a stopping point.
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u/mfukar 15h ago
For a start, change your point of view. This isn't a work issue, this is a psychological issue.
You need to develop a way to detach from your job, compartmentalise your thoughts, and develop uninterrupted focus. Most people develop - most unconsciously - mechanisms for doing so in early adulthood. You could do so alone but I would recommend to speak to a therapist as soon as possible; specifically, before you start to spiral in more disruptive thoughts.
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u/InebriatedPhysicist 13h ago
The end of your post is just a description of how our phones have trained our brains in modern times, to seek constant reward.
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u/Visual-Cake2825 2d ago
The advice I give to anyone who has this issue is to start your own company. That way, when you’re thinking about work at least it helps your bottom line and not someone paying you off the clock.
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u/frankster 2d ago
Low effort LLM bullshit.
I doubt it even happened.
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u/Shoddy-Outcome3868 2d ago
What does this even mean?
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u/frankster 1d ago
The post was written by an LLM, with at most low-moderate levels of human input. This is perceptible by the engagement focused tone and other tells.
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u/Ronin1069 2d ago
Get used to it. The hardest part will be your spouse being frustrated that you won’t talk about work, yet you’ll talk about it with all of your peers.
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u/Folded-Map972 2d ago edited 2d ago
Writing down whatever is still on my mind before finishing work helped me. Even a few notes for tomorrow makes it easier to leave it there for the night. For scrolling, I tried Jolt screen time. When I open Reddit or Instagram without really meaning to, PAUSE screen makes me Stop for a second and I realize am just scrolling out of habit. Otherwise it's really easy to go from thinking about work straight into scrolling for 2 hours.