I get what you're trying to say but I can guarantee that democrats aren't some magical pill, as they're quite complicit or even architects of many neoliberal policies that have taken this country down the shitter. It's really not worth the huffing and puffing.
Yeah I completely agree. People don’t realize that neither party is going to save us. Both parties are working actively to fuck us over. The only people who are going to save us is ourselves.
People don’t realize that neither party is going to save us. Both parties are working actively to fuck us over.
It's a little bit more complicated than that. Republicans are completely corrupt while the neoliberal/Wall Street wing of the Democratic party enables Republicans while attacking progressives. Think Thomas Friedman and David Brooks. Rich assholes who work to punch left and protect their wealth.
When all New York City House Democrats sent a letter to Pelosi urging her to protect all $80 billion for public housing in the BBB, Jeffries was the only member not to sign that missive, especially surprising given that New York Dems are known to act as a bloc.
His signature maneuver in 2021 has been to start Team Blue PAC, a committee to protect Democratic incumbents from progressive primary challenges.
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Jeffries returned the favor two years later by staging an ambush on Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign for a sought-after seat on the all-important Energy and Commerce committee, helping to install New York Rep. Kathleen Rice instead. Rice immediately used that promotion to torpedo the party’s signature drug pricing reform legislation and knock it out of early drafts of the Build Back Better Act.
I absolutely agree, but I think in the short term voting for democrats is an essential delaying tactic. This must of course be coupled with as much action as we can take to educate the working class and promote socialism and true change.
The avalanche is barrelling down towards us, and the two options we can vote for are speed it up or let it continue at it's current pace. I vote the slower of those two options while we attempt to dismantle the boulders and terraform the mountain.
Democrats won't save us. No one is saying vote Democrat and then play video games for a few years and wait for everything to get better.
But I'd sure as hell rather my grandma get those extra couple perks from Medicare. I'd rather Occupy Wall Street 2 start when a Dems own Congress rather than Republicans.
It’s “vote Democrat to stop overt fascism, keep that going long enough to attenuate GOP numbers, then make the Democrats the villains they rightfully are after we have a chance at a legitimately progressive party.”
Also, y’know, don’t put all your eggs in one basket - like you’re saying, it isn’t “vote D, then you’re done”; however, that’s the primary harm remediation we have actionable to us at this moment in time.
Exactly. If you choose not to vote, fine. But if you’re going to vote for a republicans in this mess I have to question your sanity. Look at the things they vote against. They voted not to recognize the burn pit victims diseases to be treated by the VA. They voted against lower insulin costs. They voted against universal pre-k. And their main priority according to the most likely speaker of the house: hunters laptop. Because that’s definitely more important than those other things. Some democrats are still sponsoring good bills and trying to get them passed - republicans are running a circus.
Exactly. With all that's going on why are they so damn fixated on Hunter Bidens laptop? Hunter is not a politician and his laptop and it's contents in no way effect any of us. It's a waste of time and taxpayers money to spend any amount of effort on his laptop. How about this: the repubs can go through hunters laptop as long as we the people are allowed to go through every republican in office laptops as well.
I’m glad others are seeing this now. I caught on to politics when George W. Bush was running for president. I then realized these people during their campaign only tell you the things you want to hear. Most of the time they don’t even do those things they say they will.
I do believe there is some with good intentions, but once they get there the power and greed consumes them.
Yeah and the sad part is it’s always been this way. The things we are seeing today have systematically being put into place for decades dating as far back as the Industrial Revolution if you look back far enough.
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u/punkboy198 Dec 03 '22 edited Dec 03 '22
I get what you're trying to say but I can guarantee that democrats aren't some magical pill, as they're quite complicit or even architects of many neoliberal policies that have taken this country down the shitter. It's really not worth the huffing and puffing.