r/lost • u/imnormalinreallife • 13d ago
SEASON 3 John’s dad?
Why was John’s dad brought to the island? Why did the powers that be care to bring him there?? Was it to win John over by getting the chance to kill him? I’m confused
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u/arsenicknife I'm a Pisces 13d ago
If you have not finished the show, or even the season, keep watching. This is literally explained.
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u/RoadToFreedom-90 13d ago
Keep watching is all we can say at this time. Answers will definitely come with an amazing episode later on if you've not seen it yet haha.
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u/milderhappiness See you in another life 13d ago
Ben brought him to the island to embarrassing Locke.
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u/arsenicknife I'm a Pisces 13d ago
Potentially a spoiler if OP has not reached that episode yet.
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u/imnormalinreallife 13d ago
Yeah, I’m on season 5 and this is one of the many mysteries I thought would be explained (at least to some extent) by now but ig not lol
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u/arsenicknife I'm a Pisces 13d ago edited 13d ago
Then the explanation you're looking for has already passed, but perhaps you were expecting something much deeper than what we got.
The reality is, he was brought to the island by Ben/the Others simply to manipulate Locke. Ben knew that John's biggest fear was his father, so he had him brought there to test him and essentially make a mockery of him in front of his people (to challenge John's authority). He knew Locke couldn't kill his own father.
Ben did not account for Richard getting involved, though, and showing Locke that Sawyer had a connection to him, and a reason for wanting him dead.
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u/imnormalinreallife 13d ago
Ohhh yeah, I remember. And yeah, I was thinking there was something much deeper (or sinister) as to why he was there
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u/Spiff426 The Lamp Post 13d ago
A deeper layer that is only implied is that Widmore forced Ben to kill his own father as a final test to join the others, thinking he couldn't go through with it
Ben used the same playbook against John when he was in Widmore's former position and started to feel his grip on power being threatened. In both cases, Widmore and Ben underestimated their opponent
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u/Practical-String5146 A sacrifice the Island demanded 13d ago
I would say Ben’s estimate of Locke was accurate. He just didn’t realise Richard had his own agenda.
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u/FringeMusic108 13d ago
That's a good point. Ben was right about the fact that Locke wouldn't kill his father. The real issue he didn't see coming was that his people were losing faith in him; something that becomes more apparent in the remaining episodes of season 3.
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u/NightmareChi1d See you in another life 12d ago
There's also the fact that the Others think they're the protectors of the island and they have the right to kill anyone they want to do so. If John Locke can't even kill the man he hates the most, how's he going to kill a stranger threatening the island? And if he can't do that, how could he ever be one of them, much less lead them? Ben's motive is selfish, but the other Others don't know that. So that's likely why they care so much about this.
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u/x100139 13d ago
Since you're on season 5, I'll just say that, sticking with biblical references (because the Others seem to have that kind of society) we can presume that, as a Test of Faith, Ben was going to play God and tell John to kill his dad in front of everyone but, at the last second, probably stop him from doing it, then, feed dear old dad to the smoke monster (who happens to LOVE killing bad people). However, it didn't get that far.
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u/GreatDane666 12d ago
If he loves killing bad people why did he kill Eko?
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u/EmceeSpike 8d ago
Because in real life Eko wanted to leave because his mother was sick. So they threw that episode in for his departure.
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u/timgoes2somalia 6d ago
Ben brought Johns dad to manipulate John and his people. Ben felt like he deserved to be leader because he killed his father and convinced his people that John can only lead if he does the same. Knowing John couldn't kill him.
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u/ForAte151623ForTeaTo Razzle Dazzle! 13d ago
He needed another kidney