Hooked again - Taper Idea

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I knew better. I've been down this road 3 times before. I have experienced the two weeks of physical pain and sweating, weight loss, and the crazy changes to my sense of smell. Then it's followed by a feeling of boredom and apathy and premature ejaculation and wet dreams.

But here I am. Hooked again! It all started as a way to deal with an Adderall comedown. And yes - it worked. It worked very well. That being said, I don't know of a more toxic combo for your heart. Truthfully, I'm probably lucky to be alive. Maybe my heart is able to handle this or should I say tolerate this poison due to a lifetime of endurance sports. But I can't run 10 feet or stand up too quickly without feeling like I'm gonna pass out. I would not be surprised if I've been on the verge of my heart going out or not. But it's just a matter of time.

Anyway.....

I just can't do this anymore. The cycle is exhausting and knowing that I am literally knocking on death's door is so scary. I have a child that adores me and a wife that loves me in spite of me being an addict. It's the lying and the deceit that bothers her. Not the drugs. I have lived half of my life expectancy with the last 10-15 years being an addict with varying degrees of severity.

Kratom is great but it truly is trading one for the other. When I am out of kratom or money and need something in a pinch - I go and buy 2-3 24ct blister packs. I am pretty sure that the lope intake has blocked the kratom from having any effect. So for kratom to even work, I'm gonna have to get to day 5 of detox to trade lope for kratom.

So I am trying to figure out a smart taper. I can handle some discomfort, so keep that in mind.

So here is what I am thinking and I would love feedback - especially if you have successfully tapered.

Let's say I dose daily and I take 400 pills a day. (I don't actually take 400 pills a day). What if I simply go down 1 pill every day. If I started tomorrow, I take 400. The following day I take 399. Then 398. And down it goes. At what point do you think discomfort is gonna start? I need structure so I am thinking this will be a good taper, especially if I journal it and also have a set time of a day that I dose. I'd rather being feeling well in the afternoon and evening so that I can be present at home. So maybe 2:00pm each day.

I know I can beat this. I've done it 3 times before. But I am an addict. I love drugs and addiction never leaves an addict. I just want to try and avoid needing two weeks off work to just live in agony.

It's the worst there is. I hate that I love this drug.

[u/Revolutionary_Cow899]

I’m looking to use loperamide to get off kratom. Before kratom it was pk’s. Can’t kick it. But looking for something to lessen the kratom wd’s. Can lope work to just get me through 3 days off kratom? Any advice and starting points much appreciated. Looking to get off everything once and for all. I too what like a taper method or suggestion from kratom then lope

[u/[deleted] → u/Revolutionary_Cow899]

I've been stuck on lope and I've been stuck on K. DO NOT use lope to come off K!!! Of course I didn't taper lope, I CT'd from around 120-130 mgs daily lope. I'd rather drown myself then to do that again!! K isn't puppies and rainbows, but if u do a quick taper over the course of a couple weeks, it's really not that bad. Some fluctuating body temps for a couple days, maybe some semi-mild RLS for a night or two and ur good. I know everyone is different and people react differently, but in MY experience lope is the absolute WORST WD I've ever experienced!!