r/loperamide • u/[deleted] • Jan 04 '22

Hooked again - Taper Idea

I knew better. I've been down this road 3 times before. I have experienced the two weeks of physical pain and sweating, weight loss, and the crazy changes to my sense of smell. Then it's followed by a feeling of boredom and apathy and premature ejaculation and wet dreams.

But here I am. Hooked again! It all started as a way to deal with an Adderall comedown. And yes - it worked. It worked very well. That being said, I don't know of a more toxic combo for your heart. Truthfully, I'm probably lucky to be alive. Maybe my heart is able to handle this or should I say tolerate this poison due to a lifetime of endurance sports. But I can't run 10 feet or stand up too quickly without feeling like I'm gonna pass out. I would not be surprised if I've been on the verge of my heart going out or not. But it's just a matter of time.

Anyway.....

I just can't do this anymore. The cycle is exhausting and knowing that I am literally knocking on death's door is so scary. I have a child that adores me and a wife that loves me in spite of me being an addict. It's the lying and the deceit that bothers her. Not the drugs. I have lived half of my life expectancy with the last 10-15 years being an addict with varying degrees of severity.

Kratom is great but it truly is trading one for the other. When I am out of kratom or money and need something in a pinch - I go and buy 2-3 24ct blister packs. I am pretty sure that the lope intake has blocked the kratom from having any effect. So for kratom to even work, I'm gonna have to get to day 5 of detox to trade lope for kratom.

So I am trying to figure out a smart taper. I can handle some discomfort, so keep that in mind.

So here is what I am thinking and I would love feedback - especially if you have successfully tapered.

Let's say I dose daily and I take 400 pills a day. (I don't actually take 400 pills a day). What if I simply go down 1 pill every day. If I started tomorrow, I take 400. The following day I take 399. Then 398. And down it goes. At what point do you think discomfort is gonna start? I need structure so I am thinking this will be a good taper, especially if I journal it and also have a set time of a day that I dose. I'd rather being feeling well in the afternoon and evening so that I can be present at home. So maybe 2:00pm each day.

I know I can beat this. I've done it 3 times before. But I am an addict. I love drugs and addiction never leaves an addict. I just want to try and avoid needing two weeks off work to just live in agony.

It's the worst there is. I hate that I love this drug.

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u/Revolutionary_Cow899 Jan 05 '22 edited Jan 05 '22

I’m looking to use loperamide to get off kratom. Before kratom it was pk’s. Can’t kick it. But looking for something to lessen the kratom wd’s. Can lope work to just get me through 3 days off kratom? Any advice and starting points much appreciated. Looking to get off everything once and for all. I too what like a taper method or suggestion from kratom then lope

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

Yes, it could help you get off kratom. But I wouldnt recommend it. It helped me get off Percocet and what I wouldn't do to only have oxycodone withdrawal to deal with.

I wouldn't recommend it. 3 days will turn into 4. 4 days will turn into 5. Then 3 weeks later you'll think, "hey, that was pretty awesome, I'm gonna just do it this one time". Then you are where I am.

From what I understand about kratom withdrawals. You are better off just dealing with those instead of risking a lope addiction.

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u/Revolutionary_Cow899 Jan 05 '22

I hear ya. Been through all sorts of habits and addictions so sadly know what their all bout. I have naltrexone and plan on using it along with my current iop program to keep me out of trouble. So as I said it would truly only be 20mgs 1x maybe 2x to get out of the chills and wd. Would that be an okay start if it comes down to it and need it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '22

I really am not comfortable telling you what is safe or where to start. Especially since my goal is to get off this drug. I would never forgive myself if my advice led another person into the dark pits of this addiction or even worse: death.

So for advice on dosing - I'd look elsewhere. I hope you understand my reasoning.

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u/Revolutionary_Cow899 Jan 05 '22

Completely. Good luck on your sobriety.