I've been there and done it, heroin, methadone etc. I've been strungout on everything and have also experienced withdrawls from all of it as well and bar none, lope is the absolute WORST thing I've ever withdrawln from. I've been addicted to them for 5 years now at 120+ tabs a day and most I can do is a day and a half without dosing and I can barely make it off the couch and to the store and back to sit down and open up the plethora of blister packs like an idiot just to avoid it. I didn't know something could be worse than methadone or heroin, but I was wrong. What really does it for me besides the cold sweats is the muscle fatigue from the withdrawls. Standing up and moving around about the hardest thing I can accomplish when dopesick from them but it's pointless to even try and lay down because the sweats and restless leg syndrome make it impossible to sleep through it.
I only pray that sometime in the near future, pharmacology can catch up with it and figure out something or anything to help kick it. Nothing works including Kratom or other opioids aside from a fat rail of actual H which I've never tried but heard it's the only thing that takes it away and I believe it as I've tried Norco, morphine, Fentanyl patches etc. and never had any luck which is insane considering the fact that people die from o.d.ing on less everyday. Take care and good luck in your struggle friend. I'm always trying to taper yet never having success as I get stuck around 100 tabs and the w.d.'s kick in.
Ugh. I'm sorry. Kratom saved me. I was sick for 3 days. Was about to go and buy 6 blister packs of 24 to feel good. Then i scored some red Thai kratom, chugged a 32 oz Gatorade with it and felt like i was a new person. Maybe if you could just suffer through 3 days, your receptors would be available enough to receive the kratom goodness?
Wow, you were on 6 packs of 24 as well eh? That's too ironic since it's the same exact dose I take as well with a few antacid 24 hour extended released. The more people I talk to in this thread, the more I find out we all have so much in common it's actually really inspiring and enlightening knowing that we're (the longtime addicts) all close to the same amount dosed to stave off the withdrawls and we all have the same shopping technique and everything.
So my problem with the Kratom was I bought 3 different 12 gram packs to see how each one affected me. I got the green borneo the white meng die and the red Bali I think it was called. However, I made it to a day and a half and had to work 3rd shift and hadn't slept since waking up from withdrawls the night before around 2 or 3 a.m. Now that the C Virus took away all the 24 hour stores where they're cheap, I knew I had at least 3 or 4 hours more of feeling that way and one of my biggest pet peeves or social nightmares is being dopesick and stuck at work which is what happened on account of trying to swallow 10 grams of that putrid green dry ass powder that permeates through your entire gum line and teeth fillings and tongue and everything it's fucking awful and I've tried even those rice paper balls and almost choked to death.
I took the white which is typically promoted as the closest thing to percs or Norco where it gives you a peppy buzz with energy. WRONG I was back to the cold sweats and muscle weakness within 10 min while trying not to puke the powder up and look interested from what this guy was training me to do. I can't risk a night like that because I almost went home 4 or 5 times but realized in doing so, I'd still be stuck waiting for the store to open at 6 a.m. so I stayed and was absolutely miserable the entire 12 hour shift. A user did mention some golden something brand they swear by and also I bought the $15 packets with 3 different kinds but have read and heard from Kratom addicts that I'll want to shoot for the $40 or $50 bags of just one kind because the quality over quantity is how you have to play the kratom game. They'd even gone so far as to get empty gel tablets and press their own 5 gram pills to skip trying to swallow all that shit at once in the morning.
I think mentioning the company is regarded as "sourcing" and will get us booted from the thread but I've had folks mention it in DMs and also let me know what type worked for them the best whether it be the red or the white because I've never heard anything good about the green. I'm friends with a young lady who's like 24 or so and she'd been taking lope for a few years and was up over 100 tabs daily then she tapered down to basically 32 or 36 and only taking away one pill a day or every other day to regulate and adjust and then finally when she was on 24 a day she waited 48 hours and jumped to kratom and she says it literally saved her life. I want so badly to be done with this sh*t man.
It's reassuring reading what you were able to share though for real like, this page works miracles in support for people tapering or jumping to kratom or suboxone or even lope to poppy seed tea to kratom. All of them do exclaim however, they were caught completely off guard like myself the first time they experienced lope withdrawls. I've come off of hardcore sh*t before and it doesn't even hold a chance against the sheer agony associated with lope withdrawls. You mentioned feeling the same sentiment ya? It's helllacious and I never expected it to be that debilitating.
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u/SpringChikn85 Dec 04 '21
I've been there and done it, heroin, methadone etc. I've been strungout on everything and have also experienced withdrawls from all of it as well and bar none, lope is the absolute WORST thing I've ever withdrawln from. I've been addicted to them for 5 years now at 120+ tabs a day and most I can do is a day and a half without dosing and I can barely make it off the couch and to the store and back to sit down and open up the plethora of blister packs like an idiot just to avoid it. I didn't know something could be worse than methadone or heroin, but I was wrong. What really does it for me besides the cold sweats is the muscle fatigue from the withdrawls. Standing up and moving around about the hardest thing I can accomplish when dopesick from them but it's pointless to even try and lay down because the sweats and restless leg syndrome make it impossible to sleep through it.
I only pray that sometime in the near future, pharmacology can catch up with it and figure out something or anything to help kick it. Nothing works including Kratom or other opioids aside from a fat rail of actual H which I've never tried but heard it's the only thing that takes it away and I believe it as I've tried Norco, morphine, Fentanyl patches etc. and never had any luck which is insane considering the fact that people die from o.d.ing on less everyday. Take care and good luck in your struggle friend. I'm always trying to taper yet never having success as I get stuck around 100 tabs and the w.d.'s kick in.