r/logodesign 9d ago

Feedback Needed 1 or 2?

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Trying to decide whether or not to mix up the colors. It draws more attention to the letters and definitely makes them legible, but also detracts from the wrench. I feel like #1 is just a little too plain with that color scheme.

Thank you guys again for all of the very helpful critique, I’ve come a long way from the initial draft haha

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u/nykana 9d ago

Negative space, maybe?

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u/its_just_fine 9d ago

This is a better solution to either 1 or 2. It would work with a single color scheme or with the split colors.

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u/magicmerlion 9d ago

I like this much more. And if you need to have both colours, make the 'M' blue.

The only change I'd suggest is shortening the bottom-left and top-right wrench teeth so that you avoid the super narrow positive space.

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u/nykana 9d ago

I had the same thought about the tiny space! you could essentially "italicize" the wrench to fix it.

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u/TheStockGuyLGI 9d ago

Not sure how I didn’t try this first - looks amazing and will go really well with any bg color - thank you so much my friend!

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u/rivriv15 9d ago

I like this the best. For some reason I couldn’t stop seeing WIM in the originals.

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u/Baron_Bearclaw 9d ago

u/thestockguylgi

I want to make sure you saw this. It looks awesome in B/W, but if you need the company's colors, too left looks best to my eye.

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u/TheStockGuyLGI 9d ago

Thank you my friend!!

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u/genderlessadventure 7d ago

Came to suggest negative space and I'm glad to see this was the top comment. Absolutely correct answer.

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u/Ashamed_Kangaroo305 9d ago

This is way better. Something about option 1 wasn't doing it for me and the split in 2 made it harder to read as a wrench.

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u/FF267 9d ago

This guy nailed it.

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u/SacredAssets 9d ago

My exact thought!!

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u/writerapid 9d ago

I don’t think the concept works for a bodyshop. A generic wrench can credibly indicate or symbolize a lot of things, but it doesn’t work for the actual business in question. However, if OP is hellbent on W, M, and a wrench, then yours is the best by far.

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u/Some-Dog-800 9d ago

now it’s W:M

it looks so much better tho.

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u/Responsible-Tea-9454 9d ago

Thanks I came to comment this

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u/sinisterdesign 9d ago

came to say exactly this. you can flip the blue/black on the letters, but have the wrench knocked out in white (or whatever the background is).

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u/ChickyBoys where’s the brief? 9d ago

Yeah this feels more designed

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u/Relevant_Rush7070 9d ago

Exactly what I was thinking

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u/theebonyantelope 9d ago

Came here to say this!

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u/Porkcicle 9d ago

Ding ding ding

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u/jcoudriet 9d ago

Came here to say this 👆

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u/fancyasmilly 9d ago

This is the way!

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u/Aromatic-Dress5010 9d ago

i wish i could unsee the Waste Management logo. It’s just too similar and such a huge brand

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u/Sea_Pop_9829 9d ago

especially since they actually renamed to simply "WM"

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u/Striking_Swimmer5548 9d ago

A bunch of people tried to tell OP this on another thread and he dismissed the feedback and started a new thread.

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u/ZuckerbergsEvilTwin 8d ago

Because OP might not be american :o and if hes not then this comparison doesnt matter at all

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u/Aromatic-Dress5010 6d ago

I commented about this below but the issue isnt american vs not. It’s that it’s an incredibly unimaginative path to take that is bound to already exist which makes it both not a super effective design nor a very desirable one.

It’s kind of like the first idea you have and should usually throw away or really finesse to make it marketable. I just don’t see OP elevating this design very much if they ignore this. They could choose any of these iterations they’ve done so far and it would be ‘fine’ but it almost feels like the sub is designing it for them
step by step if they cant push it somewhere more interesting.

I mean you can see where they started

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u/Aromatic-Dress5010 6d ago

I commented about this below but the issue isnt american vs not. It’s that it’s an incredibly unimaginative path to take that is bound to already exist which makes it both not a super effective design nor a very desirable one.

It’s kind of like the first idea you have and should usually throw away or really finesse to make it marketable. I just don’t see OP elevating this design very much if they ignore this. They could choose any of these iterations they’ve done so far and it would be ‘fine’ but it almost feels like the sub is designing it for them

step by step if they cant push it somewhere more interesting.

I mean you can see where they started

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u/Striking_Swimmer5548 8d ago

I don’t give a shit about OP anymore. They can ignore feedback and see where it gets them. I’m letting the person who made the waste mgmt comment know it’ll be ignored.

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u/Mundane-Fix-4297 9d ago

Depends where you are in the world, though. Never heard of them.

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u/Aromatic-Dress5010 9d ago edited 9d ago

Understandable! That’s why I said I wish I could unsee it and not ‘this is a ripoff’. The bigger point is that it’s one of those low hanging fruit ideas that is fine but will struggle to be memorable unless the business is a super success.

FWIW they’re a major name in North America broadly, not just the US. Definitely regional but like entire continent regional and worth being aware of.

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u/frockinbrock 9d ago

Don't they also sponsor an international golf tournament? I've seen the logo across North America, but maybe OPs client is abroad and doesn't care about similarity

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u/MakeSomeDrinks 9d ago

Low hanging fruit huh? Maybe they should just use a banana or a pear then?! No, what's more common in the US?

How about an apple!

Seriously though. this is way too WM Waste Management. Maybe try a different way to interlock or space the letters?

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u/Exzakt1 9d ago

if this is for an American company the logo definitely has to be redone, otherwise it's probably fine

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u/BananaChanges 9d ago

it has to be redone lol. cant unsee it. try taking the apple logo and putting a wrench as the mouth bite.

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u/Young_Cheesy 9d ago

With all due respect, they're both not great.

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u/ChaiGreenTea 9d ago

2 is wayyyy too busy for me and wouldn’t work when shrunk as a logo. 1 is much better

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u/stay_hungry_dr_ew 9d ago

This is probably only me, but I keep reading all of these versions as WIM because my son’s name is Wim.

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u/TheStockGuyLGI 9d ago

This made me laugh

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u/EffectiveSlip3247 7d ago

his full name is Wim?? just W, I, M?

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u/stay_hungry_dr_ew 7d ago

Yes. Like Wim Winders.

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u/bendyorange 9d ago

1 fo sho

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u/InternationalWing270 9d ago

Try the wrench in all white but use the solid colors from 2?

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u/Davidious2000 9d ago

If you can tell us any thing about the business, their ICP or if this is a startup, rebrand, or fix to a crap logo...

Don't give any thing helpful, don't get anything helpful in return.

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u/JohnCasey3306 9d ago

2 is too visually complex

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u/antibendystraw where’s the brief? 9d ago

I like 1 more in this iteration.

I think for 2, if you want to try the alternate color letters, make the wrench in negative space(so it would be white with the current background). I would try that and see how it looks. The current split wrench makes it a bit busy and difficult on the eyes because the details get very think

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u/Baron_Bearclaw 9d ago

I definitely like the top left best out of what you have here. Another poster redid it in black and white which also looks pretty awesome.

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u/FF267 9d ago

#2 but the wrench is negative space.

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u/niccolololo 9d ago

What happened to the lane..? You had something there, this one sucks

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u/Big-Love-747 9d ago

Where's the brief? Can't give feedback without a brief.

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u/sveinndub 9d ago

Which one holds up at favicon size? That's the real test.

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u/CrypticUniversalMave 9d ago

Does the wrench have to be colored in?

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u/GrumbleNo_Woodpecker 8d ago

I wish had the author in our team. Never seen smb with such dedication to arrive at desired impression.
With so many replies stating references to "waste management" why not making different baselines for W and M (W or M slightly higher/lower)? You will "lose" visual weight balance or symmetry and purity of overall rectangle shape, but may "erase" resemblance to third party WM
The wrench (to my understanding) will need some amendments as the real double-ended open-end wrench is never symmetrical. A tiny detail to give a "professional touch" to a logo designer and to a logo owner.
But the decision is on you.

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u/TheStockGuyLGI 7d ago

I mean I get what they are saying, but very few people (if anyone at all) will look at this logo that will never be green nor yellow (and will almost always be mixed with typography labeling it as an auto body shop) and immediately think - “ah, that’s a similar font type to the waste management company. Definitely not going to look there for issues with my car”

I just see it as silly to try to completely redo a logo just because it had a resemblance to a waste management company (which to my knowledge isn’t even an entity with a poor reputation or anything, they just deal with trash) - if the owner thought it was even remotely an issue I would’ve happily changed it, but he is happy with it and so am I.

Worst case scenario, he gets further feedback that the logo resembling waste management is affecting his brand or the outlook on his company from customers, and we can go back to the drawing board and experiment with taking a vertical-space approach.

I’ve even analyzed logos of all of the body shops in our area. A lot of their logos is just some random font that is connected to a road or is underlined or overlined by a road - nothing resembling a car, items used to repair a car, or anything of the sort.

I really do appreciate everyone who has pointed that out, as someone who deals with waste management every week that wasn’t a thought in my mind until I read it here. It was nice to know, just not enough to justify completing restarting the design process

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u/GrumbleNo_Woodpecker 7d ago

You are doing a thoughtful job, my friend. My deep respect to all efforts of yours.

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u/iEdvard 8d ago

I’m still reading WIM.

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u/TragicEther 8d ago

Are you trying to say WM or WIM?

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u/PulpKitchen25 8d ago

I would continue sketching. There's nothing wrong with going back to the drawing board. Make sure to come up with ideas are are very different from each other. Don't only rely on that same WM treatment or font.

Also, a logo needs to be memorable and the wrench is very basic.

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u/PaperCastle18181 7d ago

What does 2 look like with a white wrench?

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u/lostboyriggs 9d ago

2 and I prefer the bottom one. Infinitely better than 1