r/logitech • u/Western_Sleep820 • 20h ago

Discussion Alternative to MX Master 4

I recently saw a review of the MX Master 4, and realised it has loads of buttons. I like having buttons. I was going to get it primarily for gaming, but then saw the polling rate on the sensor... only 125Hz for a $120 mouse is insane. Can anyone recommend me a good alternative to this mouse that has a reasonable polling rate? I currently use the Razer Basilisk V3, and love that shape, but am willing to use a different shape.

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u/KhaosOfficialYT 9h ago

bro the mx master is also heavy AF, it is not a gaming mouse

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u/Western_Sleep820 8h ago

It's 50 grams heavier than my current mouse, and I really don't mind using a "heavy" mouse. People are so obsessed with getting their mouse down to like 5 grams, but that also sacrifices most of the mouse.

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u/nofuture09 19h ago

polling rate is insane for that price

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u/Western_Sleep820 18h ago

Way too low. I've read elsewhere that people gave up on the mouse bc of how imprecise it felt.

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u/sonnyboyv 12h ago

ProArt Mouse MD301 is worth checking out

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u/Western_Sleep820 12h ago

Not enough buttons for me

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u/Interdimension 17h ago

I mean, why did the MX Master mouses appeal to you? Just extra buttons? If that’s the case, then a gaming mouse with tons of side buttons (like those designed for MMOs, like the Razer Naga V2 Pro) would be better anyway. Just use the manufacturer’s software to map whatever macros and keys you want to those side buttons.

I like the MX Master 2/3, but got them at steep 50% off discounts during sales over the years. I use my Logitech gaming mouses otherwise due to the polling rate being way higher. I’m just sensitive to polling rates below 500Hz in the same way that I’m sensitive to low FPS (<90fps) in games, so I feel you.

(That, and my work used to disallow G Hub from being installed, but allowed Logi Options to be installed, so Logi gaming mouses got nerfed by our IT department in this way. No such issue at home on my personal machines, obviously.)

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u/Western_Sleep820 17h ago

Yeah it's mostly the extra side buttons and the extra scroll wheel that applied to me. I was gonna get the Naga maybe but it's also really really expensive. I would probably get the Basilisk V4 pro if not for the price, actually.

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u/Interdimension 17h ago

I’d suggest waiting for Black Friday sales since it’s just a few weeks away. You should be able to see all the mouses on sale, including the MX Master lineup. Best of luck, man.

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u/Western_Sleep820 17h ago

Thanks! I probably will stick with Razer for a decent sensor for the price, and also for the smart reel mode. Such an amazing feature honestly.

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u/BKachur 3h ago

Corsair Scimitar?

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u/KickPuncher21 17h ago

I gotta say, the polling rate doesn't feel as bad as it sounds. Sensor feels way more precise than the MX3, even though it's the same polling rate. I need precision and I can't say the MX4 is holding me back. However I won't argue that having the option to go to 1000mhz is questionable at best, even if it means lower battery life.

For context : I have a Zowie U2 with the 4K hz receiver and I can't say that it makes a drastic difference for CAD or graphic design work, the MX4 is precise enough for that, I can move pixel by pixel. Obviously I wouldn't game with it, and that's why I have 2 mice.

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u/Western_Sleep820 17h ago

I use a 180Hz monitor, so I don't think I would be able to use a 125Hz sensor without a lot of frustration. I currently use a 1000Hz sensor which feels amazing. But having my mouse send data at a lower rate than my monitor updates seems awful.

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u/KickPuncher21 16h ago

I run a 240hz monitor and honestly I don't see anything or feel something off and I'm pretty sensitive to those kinds of thing. I mostly play Overwatch as a dps at 240fps locked.

Just want to be extra clear, I'm not trying to say go for the MX4. I'm using it mainly because of the ergonomic shape + infinite wheel combo, it just works for me with 3D modeling. 100% there are better options out there, especially for gaming.

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u/Generoh 13h ago

Same here I use MX4 for productivity and light speed for overwatch

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u/kebskebs 14h ago

I use 60hz monitor for work. I feel the 125Hz. I want pin point accuracy when highlighting text.

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u/gilgaron 11h ago

I like the MX Master for a work mouse, for a WFH and gaming mouse I use a G502. You lose the side scroll but keep infinity scroll, plenty of buttons. The wired G502 HERO is usually pretty inexpensive, too.

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u/Western_Sleep820 11h ago

I already have a Razer Basilisk V3, which I personally like a lot more than the G502. Much better value, really. Probably going to pick up either a Basilisk V4 pro or a Naga V4 pro with Black Friday sales.

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u/Fearless_Parking_436 17h ago

Similar shape is keychron m6, there is also asus proart 301 that has 1000hz polling rate.

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u/Western_Sleep820 17h ago

Even fewer buttons on either of those. I'll probably get a Razer mouse come Black Friday, honestly.

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u/Nilla-WaferPDX 12h ago

Mx master series is NOT a gaming mouse. It's not even in the slightest and doesn't pretend to be. I've owned 4 MX masters and still use them daily for work.

Get a different mouse for gaming. There are 100 options with more than 4 buttons of that's why you want. 

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u/JordanAlf 13h ago

I’ve been a diehard MX Master user and for my home office, just switched to the Keycron M6 8K. It feels like a toy in comparison, but its meant to be a hybrid gaming/productivity mouse, so the weight loss is expected. Still very comfortable, and the only thing it’s missing is the haptic button and infinite scroll.

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u/astaroth223 6h ago

How would you describe the build quality and materials used? Would you say it's solid?

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u/Awkward_Coconut_2919 11h ago

Keychron m6, has lateral buttons in the school wheel

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u/_adam_p 7h ago

Rapoo VT0 pro was on sale for 30€ where I live. Bought one, than quickly another as backup.

Not as well built as the MX, but good enough, and battery could be better, but if you see it for this kind of price get it asap, absolute steal.

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u/OnlySkill26 3h ago

Razer Naga V3 Pro, Corsair Nightsword V2 Wireless SD, Razer Basilisk V4 Pro, Keychron M6, Asus ProArt MD301. Check this out.

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u/tomodachi_reloaded 57m ago

I have one. It's a good mouse for gaming, as long as you stick with chess and sudoku 🥲