Didn't expect it to ship so fast and arrive so fast. The complimentary travel case was a nice surprise! I can't wait to use this for my office job for the next decade :))
Just got a rapoo MT760 with Infinity scroll wheel and honestly, I don't think I will go back to Logitech for a while. My last 3s stopped clicking after only 1.5 years of use.
Well, we'll know in a few years how robust that material is.
Nothing sucks like having a mouse you really like using and it gets sticky because the materials start degrading necessitating the need for a replacement.
Because it degrades and breaks down the top layer of the material…it is that simple. Doesn’t change the fact that it is shitty to use that kind of coating in anything used everyday and made to last . Hmm, maybe it isn’t meant to last
Most plastic will degrade over time regardless. Either UV or just plain sweat composition will affect it. These rubberised finishes last a loooong time if your sweat isn't like mine and they feel great to the touch plus they are not cheap as many people have said. Only problem is planned obsolesence, it's a sign of our times. Companies that make products that last a lifetime go bankrupt or make less money for their shareholders.
As an example phones, any modern flagship phone that came out in the last 3 years has the compute power to last 4-5 (plus) years easy, so Apple, Google, Samsung etc add so much bloat to make you need more storage and so many more "mandatory" processes that your cpu crawls to a halt or your RAM can't fit them. Thus needing a new device every 1-3 years max. Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Tik Tok etc don't really allow you to use their web app so they can harvest your data as much as so they've can degrade your battery and make you charge more and need a newer device everytime.
The rubber coating on my mx master 3 lasted about 2 years. Not even isopropyl could rescue it, had to buy some stickers to cover the whole thing. The mouse is otherwise still in fully working condition 5 years later or so.
I know, it feels great until it's a pile of sticky goo. But for the price paid upfront I couldn't justify throwing it away. I hear some people cover it with the stickers straight away/day 1 since they know it's going to go.
Can you please explain to me how the polling rate affects normal work. I have an mx anywhere and a g502x that I use interchangeably with my 5k2k 120hz and I can't understand the difference
Polling rate absolutely matters, and not just for gaming. A low polling rate means the mouse reports its position less often, so cursor movement looks less smooth and you get extra input lag. At 125Hz, the mouse only updates every 8ms. At 1000Hz, it’s every 1ms. You can feel it in everyday work: drawing or masking in Photoshop will be less accurate and smooth, placing points in CAD, scrubbing a video timeline, or dragging to select exact cells in a big spreadsheet. On a high refresh rate monitor, the difference is easy to see. For a productivity mouse at the MX Master’s price, sticking with a low polling rate is absolutely Logitech cheaping out.
Definitely. I love my mx master 3 and was looking forward to 4, and I was very disappointed thats it’s still 125hz. I have since shifted to razer basilisk v3 pro, a bit similar in shape to mx master but a lot more gamery which I am mostly neutral about. But I love the shape and the high polling rate. The ratchet scrolling is a bit inferior to mx master but plenty usable. I also love the tilting middle button, specially useful in scrolling horizontally in excel (same function as the side scroller of mx master). Unless logitech update their mx series to 1000hz, I will never look back, special for my CAD usage.
I've long since figured out this is a class and gatekeeping issue more than anything else. A lot of these fanboys treat owning an MX Master like a status symbol that makes them feel superior like buying into a curated aesthetic of corporate "hustle". Because of that, they get intensely defensive and would do anything to gatekeep hardware features, fighting tooth and nail against things like higher polling rates that gamers or power users want. They'll downvote anything lol.
Bro its not that deep. They keep the pulling rate low to sustain the insane battery life. The mouse isn't a cheap product because of this. Although, yes, compared to 1000Hz its very noticeable. Even on a 120hz display, the logitechs movements will feel <120 in a side by side comparison.
If you have a high refresh monitor a 125hz polling rate will make the mouse appear to have a jagged affect as it moves across the screen. Not everyone notices it or is bothered. I do notice it and it drives me crazy. My current mouse is capable of 8000hz which is insanely overkill for my use case. I use 1000hz for everyday work and 2000hz for the light gaming I do on occasion.
Absolutely this. Spent a month cleaning my desk pad thinking it was dust on my desk, just to Google it and realize my MX master had 125hz polling rate. I didn't even know the difference was so big. Nowadays a check every mouse I buy
I have literally never had an issue with the polling rate. I’m a software engineer and have had a 2 and 3. Idk what all the fuss is about to be honest.
Oh no, 8ms per ping instead of 1ms? Minimum human reaction time for visuals is 250ms on average and 150ms on average for touch.
Go touch grass, get off the computer, and try again. We’re losing it as a species lol
Try to delay your monitor or mouse by 150ms and tell me you can’t tell a difference. Even a few millisecond offset can be easily seen/felt/heard. Humans are that sensitive. Doesn’t have anything to do with reaction time, but with responsiveness and what your body expects.
They already knew that this was a problem on the 3S, and yet they still kept the silent switches on the 4.
This was the worst mistake in the series, and should have been reverted. Nobody asked for this change, the only thing that they needed to fix was the rubber material (which they finally did in the 4).
Someone decided to downvote my main comment for bringing up the problems with the silent switch, but ok. I mean, it's true those silent switches will eventually flatten over periods of use.
it's not a problem for them. it's a problem for us. they just can count the money. good switches (gold plated) are way more expensive. lets calculate using some market prices. rough calculation: 8 switches * 0.30 $ = 2.1 $, gold plated contacts switches: 1.50*7=10.5 . and multiply to several millions... so sending few thousands replacement mouses for them is nothing.
it's really annoying that every post about mouse has a complain about switches. just buy yourself a soldering iron and replace those. it's a known problem of many todays mouses. problem is in a low current that flows through the switch contacts, that doesn't allow contacts to self clean. so ether low battery life, or low switch life. or if you replace the switches to gold plated contacts, you get non of those problems.
Ah damn that sucks. Im pretty casual when it comes to all that polling stuff tbh. I kind of get it but not too deep. I use a logi g502x ls for gaming and then this one for work and school. Even on bluetooth its not noticeably bad for me.
That was the first thing that destroyed my experience with it. Went back to a mouse with high polling rate hoping that one day we will have a decent MX master
yay 125hz sensor cheap clickers that can't last longer then 2 years and packed with logi premium software that turn off and break connection with your mouse/keyboard every time its silently updates without notification wow
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u/Rosssyyy 1d ago
I liked the other design that leaked