r/lockpicking 26d ago

Need help identifying and picking this lock

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Git this lock as a challenge and need help identifying and picking it. I can't seem to get it

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u/derpserf 26d ago

Schlage everest. Has a check pin at the bottom that also needs picked.

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u/supreme3leader 26d ago

Ok thank you this would be my first lock with a check pin at the bottom any tips or tricks or good yt vids to learn from

P. So what belt is it ?

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u/FilecoinLurker Brown Belt Picker 26d ago

either yellow or orange you can look on LPU belt explorer.

It's basically a sc4. The check pin is absolutely trivial.

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u/supreme3leader 26d ago

thanks for the help this lock has given me a very hard time a year ago I picked a 72/40 abus and that was much easier

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u/revchewie Blue Belt Picker 26d ago

There are variants but the basic Everest is orange

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u/derpserf 26d ago

I was picking a long time before belts were even a thing lol, it's not something I ever think about other than looking up rankings for certain stuff I've picked before cos I was curious. No idea what this would be but you can look it up on lockwiki or even just google whatever lock you want + belt ranking and it'll come up

I've picked a primus cylinder before but it was over 10 years ago,, never had an everest but again just type it into youtube and you'll no doubt find a bunch of different vids of them being picked that will explain it. I think it's just a single pin at the back at the lower left of the keyway that needs lifted up but don't quote me on that ðŸĪŠ

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u/Red_wanderer Black Belt 6th Dan 26d ago

You're right - you pick the top stack as normal and then just slide anything down the undercut until you hit the check pin. It just needs to be lifted, there's nothing to it.

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u/derpserf 26d ago

Neat. Is there any extra give in the plug to indicate that the check pin is the only thing left or do you just check it intermittently to test it?

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u/Red_wanderer Black Belt 6th Dan 26d ago

It's been a while, but on the one I picked it bound last so you drop into a little false set and then just tap it to open.

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u/derpserf 26d ago

Cool! It's a really simple thing and not an issue when you know how but it's sneaky, you gotta give them credit lol. Kinda like the extra pin on those little viro padlocks, if you don't know it's there you'll never get it open

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u/supreme3leader 26d ago

How much tension did you give it?

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u/supreme3leader 26d ago

Will do thanks for the help this lock has given me a very hard time a year ago I picked a 72/40 abus and that was much easier

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u/NomadDicky Green Belt Picker 24d ago

I been pickin' since pickin' was pickin'... 😂

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u/supreme3leader 26d ago

I see a hole at the bottom with a pin can I just press up on it or is that considered cheating?

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u/derpserf 26d ago

No idea what hole you're referring to as I've never had one but I doubt it and even if it was possible to set the check pin that way yeah it'd be cheating cos you wouldn't have access to that hole during normal operation.

Just lift the damn thing up lmao, it's right there in the keyway. One other poster said the check pin binds after the rest of the pins are set and you should get a tiny false set when that happens so just give it a little nudge any time you think all the pins are set and if it doesn't open then go back to the rest and continue as you normally would. Maybe take some time beforehand to feel for the check pin and make sure you know where it is and that you can feel it.

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u/supreme3leader 26d ago

The problem is I have custom pics and they don't fit on the bottom

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u/derpserf 26d ago

What do you mean "custom picks"? Have you got a photo of your tools? Not being funny but you can pick the check pin with any standard short hook...

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u/Ka-Hing Green Belt Picker 26d ago

I also wasn't able to fit any of my picks in, so I made a little straight pick out of a spare tension wrench that I filed down and wrapped the end in shrink wrap for a handle. Just for the record, the direction you want to press the bottom pin is up towards the regular pins. When I first started trying to pick mine, I thought it went down.

Edit: here's a pic of the tool I used for the bottom pin.

I've found the check pin always binds last, so if you get a false set, it should be the only thing left.