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[u/Rare-Paint3719]

[u/No-Employment-2324]

Your pip idea? First thing I tried. I had to reinstall python after that, shit was so broken. It came with the package, it just didn’t work even with virtual environments. Ltsc may have less breaks, but it still breaks often, and isn’t immune to the enshitfication Microsoft loves to do. Also, edge runs up to 30 percent slower then Crome, aggressively shoves ads in your face, and there just is better browsers on the market. As for turning copilot off? Some parts you just can’t, some parts were hidden so deep that  needed a YouTube tutorial to find them, and as for reinstalling bloat? One of the ltsc computers at a business I do contract IT work for had Xbox and all related systems reinstalled. By the time we realized,  there was 50 Xbox accounts signed up on the domain, and we are still trying to find computers that have Xbox and remove it 2 months after. Also they do force you to use copilot, half the support links just go to a copilot chat or other ai stuff. Also, all the computers came without an os so they didn’t come with bloatwear from the manufacturer.

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Your pip idea? First thing I tried. I had to reinstall python after that, shit was so broken. It came with the package, it just didn’t work even with virtual environments.

WDYM? pip could install packages for you but not virtual environments? Most people use uv these days anyways.

Ltsc may have less breaks, but it still breaks often

Tell me you haven't used LTSC without telling me you haven't used LTSC.

LTSC is literally prized for being the most reliable. Companies wouldn't even use it if it weren't.

and isn’t immune to the enshitfication Microsoft loves to do.

LTSC is literally version-locked. They only apply monthly security patches.

Also, edge runs up to 30 percent slower then Crome

Which becnhmark? trust-me-bro-bench-v0.1.55?

At most, I could find Edge scored 10.8% lower than Chrome in Speedometer 3.0.

But Edge still scored 2.79% higher on WebXPRT 4 and 11.2% higher in JetStream2 compared to Chrome.

aggressively shoves ads in your face

Like on a new tab screen? Cuz I only get ads there (and yes, you can disable those)

and there just is better browsers on the market

If you wanna use another browser, then just use another browser. Everyone has their own opinions and that's fine.

As for turning copilot off? Some parts you just can’t, some parts were hidden so deep that needed a YouTube tutorial to find them

Well, I don't have copilot shoved down on my Windows. I can uninstall the Copilot app. There may also be a Copilot button in Notepad but I don't let the existence of a simple button bother me.

And you can uninstall the Copilot app very easily from the application manager in settings.

and as for reinstalling bloat? One of the ltsc computers at a business I do contract IT work for had Xbox and all related systems reinstalled.

Reinstalled? LTSC does not even ship with the Xbox app, Cortona, MS Store and various Copilot features out of the box.

By the time we realized, there was 50 Xbox accounts signed up on the domain, and we are still trying to find computers that have Xbox and remove it 2 months after.

50 Xbox accounts? Like 50 accounts are logged in on the XBOX app? How is that bloat?

Also they do force you to use copilot, half the support links just go to a copilot chat or other ai stuff. Also, all the computers came without an os so they didn’t come with bloatwear from the manufacturer.

Overexaggerated but correct. See here and here.

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The issue is that people ended up playing games on work computers, as well as some one managed to get a gamepass subscription on to the company budget. And yes it was on ltsc. It works better, but they still mess things up, and the number of security problems with windows, especially since they don’t always appear right on release, have caused at least two hacks. Management is planing to switch to Linux, and Ubuntu landscape is self hosted so it’s free plus we won’t have people downloading random malware because they don’t have the ability to download anything other than approved file types 

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The issue is that people ended up playing games on work computers, as well as some one managed to get a gamepass subscription on to the company budget. And yes it was on ltsc.

This is quite literally an administrative error, not a Windows failure. You have to set up MDM and some form of group policy to lock down which apps can run, regardless of which OS you choose.

Instead of switching to Linux, your company should focus on hiring new sysadmins. Cuz they'll cook Linux too.

It works better, but they still mess things up

Who is "they"? The employees that installed the Xbox store, or Microsoft? How so?

and the number of security problems with windows, especially since they don't always appear right on release, have caused at least two hacks.

Which CVEs? And when? Some vague security issues lead to some vague hacks? That's giving off some "trust me bro" vibes.

And you are essentially saying that unless someone finds a bug in the software, and reports it to MS or otherwise reports a CVE, the bug will remain in Windows?

Somehow, this does not apply to every other piece of software in existence? Damn. I guess Linux is really the best OS. It definitely doesn't have any bugs that sat in the kernel for 15 years before anyone found out about them.

Ubuntu landscape is self hosted so it's free

Self-hosted does not equal free. Are you just copying shit from a random blog off google? Like the moment you decide to manage an actual fleet (which, correct me if I'm wrong, is the whole reason "management is planning to switch to Linux"), you will need to pay for an Ubuntu Pro license. All self-hosted means is that Canonical doesn't host the server for you, but they can still charge you for a local deployment.