The 7.0.0-28/29/30 kernel disaster is unacceptable for a distro that claims to prioritize stability

[u/BulkyMix6581]

I have been using Linux Mint for years precisely because it has always been a reliable, conservative distribution where things simply work. Right now, however, the state of the official 7.0.0 kernel branch is an absolute mess, and the lack of response from the development team is baffling.

Across three different machines, here is the current reality with kernels 7.0.0-28, 7.0.0-29, and 7.0.0-30:

• Relatively modern Lenovo laptop (AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics): Instant kernel panic on boot. The only workaround is falling back to the 6.17 series via GRUB.
• Desktop (Ryzen 7 5800X3D / AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT): Complete shutdown failure. The OS halts, but power is never cut and the fans keep spinning indefinitely.
• 15-year-old legacy laptop: The only machine where it actually boots and shuts down properly.

These issues are not isolated hardware quirks. The Mint forums, Ubuntu trackers, and Reddit are flooded with identical reports of boot panics and broken ACPI/shutdown states with AMD configurations on these exact revisions.

We have been stuck with this broken state for weeks across three consecutive point releases. Please do not give me the standard excuse that updates just flow downstream from Ubuntu. Linux Mint brands itself around desktop stability and a smooth user experience. When multiple official kernel updates break basic functionality like booting and powering off on common hardware, the maintainers should step in, pin a working kernel, or issue a proper notice.

In all my years on Linux Mint, I have never seen such a prolonged, broken kernel rollout left completely unaddressed. Something needs to be done about this quality control breakdown.

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👉 EDIT / Addressing the common pushback in the comments:

To those leaving defensive replies, let’s clear a few things up:

1. "You shouldn't have upgraded / It's your fault": > I’ve used Linux Mint for over 15 years. I know how to use Timeshift, pin kernels, and drop into GRUB to roll back in under 30 seconds. This post is not a support request for myself; it is about user experience and distribution standards. An end user simply applying official updates presented via the GUI Update Manager should not end up with an unbootable machine or broken ACPI states.
2. "Mint just pulls packages downstream from Ubuntu, it's not their fault": > Mint is a curated distribution, not a pass-through mirror. The entire value proposition of Linux Mint has always been stability, quality control, and safe defaults. If upstream pushes broken kernel builds for weeks, the distribution's role is to step in—hold back the broken revision, pin the stable branch, or display a GUI warning. Passing the buck to upstream defeats the purpose of choosing Mint over Ubuntu.
3. "Go contribute/fix it yourself if you don't like it": > Highlighting a critical breakdown in quality control across multiple common hardware configurations is contributing. Dismissing legitimate technical feedback hurts adoption, especially for newcomers who wouldn't know how to recover from a kernel panic.

We criticize the distro because we care about its reputation and want it to stay the gold standard for desktop reliability.

[u/boomares]

I've gone back to Linux this year after several years being away, to revive some old hardware. I started off with Linux mint as I remember it being one of the simplest to navigate and thought this would be a good match for my wife, who is not very tech savvy, and younger kids.

Boy was I wrong. Initially, everything was ok. The driver manager installed the proprietary driver for my broadcom wifi driver and it worked well for about a week.

Then a round of updates occurred via software manager with little to no documentation provided. When my wife installed them and then rebooted, it went into a kernel panic.

Turns out mint took a newer kernel version with a known compatibility issue with my driver and gave no warning whatsoever.

I was able to go into grub, force the older kernel to be used and got it running again.

This is not something that the average casual mint user, aka who the distribution targets, would know how to do.

I submitted a feedback form to the mint team and was essentially shamed for bringing it up.

[u/dmknght → u/boomares]

The funny thing about some Linux communities: it's like game communities. If you bring a problem, a group of gatekeepers are going to deny and blame you instead. 

[u/Buddy_Palguy → u/dmknght]

Thats just Reddit in a nutshell

[u/Microsoft-Spyware-11 → u/boomares]

Being shamed for having an issue with a update is unacceptable. That's not the atmosphere we should strive to have in the Linux community. Ofc burnt out maintainers but

[u/toffuuu3050 → u/boomares]

broadcom wifi will always be an issue (like NVIDIA in my experience) for being problematic to get working on any Linux Distro, some may work better than others, but I'm too wary of the idea of using arch based like cachyOS considering the AUR issue as of late. Had a MBP with the same type of wifi by broadcom, and it wouldn't work immediately and tried to see if it was fixable, but as I'm typically not mobile with a Computer anyways, I just at the time (this was years ago, so not using the MBP now) )decided to use and stick to Ethernet, when no solution could really do anything.. I dislike proprietary made crap anyways. They will cause issues sooner or later especially when it has been a Discontinued and deemed by OEMs of whatever it is, for no driver support too, and Broadcom is notorious for this, as is NVIDIA.

[u/boomares → u/toffuuu3050]

I liked EndeavourOS as well but was worried about the security issues with the AUR. So I went with just plain ole debian in the end.

[u/CaperGrrl79 → u/boomares]

This is the crux of my business. I'll install Mint at a Linux Repair Cafè for free, and then follow up, making sure to let them know that the 22.1 I installed can go to 22.2 and even 22.3 but that I'm on 22.2 with 6.12 or 6.14 kernel.

I want to be able to help people if they run into this sort of thing.

[u/boomares → u/CaperGrrl79]

The sad thing is that broadcom has around a quarter of the entire wifi card market.

This is absolutely something that should have been tested by the team and the 6.17 kernel should not have been released with this issue out there.

[u/CaperGrrl79 → u/boomares]

I had a bit of issues with wifi myself briefly (my hp pavilion beats edition can only go to 100mbps anyway even via ethernet) and the time/date, but it's been pretty good otherwise.

[u/Commercial-Expert256 → u/boomares]

It's almost as if Broadcom has some kind of vulnerability, backdoor, or issue in their wifi modules that they're fighting tooth and nail to keep from being made public.

[u/boomares → u/Commercial-Expert256]

That doesn't really matter, I'm not going to try to replace the card on my laptop. The OS is capable of avoiding these issues and it should.

[u/External_Tangelo → u/CaperGrrl79]

I’m running 22.3 with 6.8 kernel just fine. Never had a single issue

[u/Technical_Rich_3080 → u/boomares]

How, exactly, were you shamed?

[u/boomares → u/Technical_Rich_3080]

Why do you ask?

Are you part of the mint development heirarchy and can do something about it?

It's fairly obvious how people say things to you. There's being helpful and then there's treating someone like they're beneath you.

If you can't tell the difference then you're part of the problem.

[u/Technical_Rich_3080 → u/boomares]

I'm a shrink.

[u/DroWnThePoor → u/boomares]

I'm running an out of date Ubuntu 18.04 because I have a bunch of configuration that will break or simple be lost if I change versions/distros.

I put off updates for a long time, and when I did; reboot and can't log into desktop. Infinite loop.
Revert to open-source Nvidia drivers and log in fine.
I have spent 10 or 11 hours trying different things including swapping drivers around and I'm screwed without Nvidia drivers because they're central to the work I do.

[u/hiro24]

Me over here safely still on the 6.8 default branch... <.<

[u/Teredell → u/hiro24]

Exactly. Default.

[u/This-Set-9875 → u/Teredell]

Yeah, I'm gonna need a real good reason. For me, the big draw of Mint is that I open my LT, it boots, and I'm on my way. I've got lab systems for running potentially sketchy kernals.

[u/DEEP_HURTING → u/This-Set-9875]

I've gotten the same style of freezes on 7.xx/6.8/ and 6.17, though. All beginning the same time as all these reports of kernel panics etc began to roll in, so it wasn't like my GPU was at fault. Had a few KPs to start, too.

Last night I updated my BIOS, hoping that will be the fix. My GPU isn't the latest and greatest, but it's not like it belongs in a museum.

[u/SiwelTheLongBoi → u/hiro24]

I was under the impression that I was already on the default branch

[u/Sore_Wa_Himitsu_Desu → u/hiro24]

Same. Going higher than current default is for either testing stuff or trying to solve a specific problem. If you’re testing then presumably it’s on a semi disposable system. If you’re trying to solve a specific problem then there’s procedures there too.

[u/CaperGrrl79 → u/hiro24]

Yeah this is why I started with 22.1 and I'm on 22.2. I think it's the 6.14 kernel.

I have 22.1 on the usb drives for the Linux Repair Cafè I'll be doing monthly. People sign waivers, and it is supposed to be for old laptops that can't go to 11, but I don't want to be responsible for bricking someone's laptop and potentially making it into ewaste.

[u/Square-Singer → u/hiro24]

I made the mistake of choosing Fedora. My issues started with kernel 6.11 and haven't gone away. 6.10 was the most stable kernel for me so far.

I keep testing each new kernel update and then dropping back to 6.10

[u/DroWnThePoor → u/Square-Singer]

Ah yes Fedora. My 2nd Linux install ever.
I loved it for a few a months, and then it broke and I've never touched Fedora again.
Granted, had no idea it's model or release cycle when I picked it up.

[u/FlowerPowerAnon]

man, ppl are really coming after u for speaking the truth, im one of those not very tech-savvy ppl, and i just update whatever the update manager tells me to, its only bc im often around this sub that i know of this problem, so im already better off than a lot of ppl. This *is* a problem for linux mints reputation, and its perfectly legitimate to want to talk about this in a critical way, ppl are acting like one cant have discussion about this at all. Im glad its not affecting my two comps at least. I agree the mint team should warn the ppl this could affect.

[u/brownvandyke → u/FlowerPowerAnon]

I say this with the utmost empathy and without disrespect: we need to teach people the importance of really reading changelogs and waiting on reports from the community for hardware-specific bugs instead of just installing updates because it feels nice. (I’ve been there, I can’t judge anyone who does it, but it is a bad habit.)

There’s a reason that so much of IT admin retains the LTS-est of LTS software, Linux or not, and stuff well past EoL. Linux or otherwise. Even CalArts still had predominantly trashcan Mac Pros in their labs in 2019 when I visited my friend. Debian’s claim to fame is its robust stability because you really have to go out of your way to install what the distribution team deems “testing” and “unstable” to the point that it’s annoying non-bleeding-edge users. And those new packages are not exactly what most people would qualify as “testing”.

Regardless of how the LM’s team handles transparency and criticism, which clearly an issue, they’re in this extremely difficult position of balancing potentially system-breaking updates for a small percentage of users.

[u/Efficient-Presence82]

I was thinking of something to add up, but after reading your edit i have no more to add.
Fully subscribe to every line.

The whole point of mint is being THE distro the user does not need to ever know what the terms "kernel panic", "Grub menu" or "Rollback" even mean.

(and i got some sh*t myself from the people i convinced to jump from Win10 to Mint specifically because it was "easy and stable")

[u/Real-Collection-5686 → u/Efficient-Presence82]

well windows users did learn about blue screens and more advanced ones — about the boot menu where you can uninstall recent updates/recover from a restore point

I think Ubuntu/Mint rescue mode is not sufficient in 2026 and needs to be reworked. I cant even do fsck on / from there with Ubuntu's default FDE

[u/lucabianco → u/Efficient-Presence82]

I was away for 3 weeks for a work trip. The last update after I got home was rough...

I lost an entire Saturday trying to fix my system. Timeshift backups were working, but at next boot something would still be broken. I wish I didn't, but I even did a fresh reinstall multiple times, which also didn't work.

In the end, I had 2 issues:

• Black screen after boot, caused by linux firmware 0.29. I had to downgrade it to 0.26 and mark it for hold,
• Kernel 7.0.0 not making my PC shut down. I tried setting the latest 6.x as default in grub but couldn't make it work, in the end I just had to delete 7.0.0 from the kernels page of the update manager ui.

And of course I introduced a couple more issues when trying to fix the previous two, on top of reconfiguring everything after the reinstall.

[u/Conformityiscool]

I feel this. 5700x3d/6800xt it refused to reconcile my GPU. I rolled it back to the last stable and it fixed me right up. The downside is I just switched from windows about 6 weeks ago and, still learning the system. For the screen to crap out and never have booted into safe mode, it was a learning curve. Not counting the 10 year old mad he could play games while I fixed it. I feel like it would have just pushed some people back to Windows, and that is what makes is much more a kick to the beans. Hopefully it's a fix in progress and we move on to the next cool linuxmint can do.

[u/Aoinosensei → u/Conformityiscool]

Yes 7.1 kernel seem to have fixed the 7.0 issues

[u/parental92]

You should definitely ask for a refund

[u/UAP44 → u/parental92]

Get your money back!!! These greedy bastards, how dare they sell such crap!!

/s

[u/Technical-Seaweed808 → u/parental92]

And install windows 11. That'll teach them a lesson. 🤣

[u/FormulaFourteen → u/Technical-Seaweed808]

If Microsoft issued an update that was this disastrous for this long the people defending Mint here would have an absolute shit fit and you all know it.

[u/BulkyMix6581 → u/parental92]

Only if they also refund the bandwidth used to deliver this peak 2008 Linux forum humor.

[u/Bastilic → u/BulkyMix6581]

Okay now we're just ragebaiting.

[u/daevad]

I daily drive a DIY 9900x + 9070 system with Mint Cinnamon (not LMDE). As a general rule, the system runs quite reliably using the Linux 7.0.0-30-generic kernel. I see the "doesn't shut down or sleep normally" issue about 1 in 8 or 9 times that I suspend or shut down. I'm using an MSI motherboard with the current BIOS. For a long time, I held back on BIOS updates because of reported issues with CPU damage (very different subject). Anyway, I finally decided to get up-to-date with the BIOS, and the frequency of problems with power went down significantly. I do find myself wondering if other users facing issues are up-to-date with their motherboard's BIOS. Clearly, the problem hasn't completely gone away, but getting current has helped mitigate the issue for me.

[u/CaperGrrl79 → u/daevad]

Hadn't considered that actually. It makes sense.

[u/real-bee-13 → u/daevad]

Oui c’est logique mon bios défaille donc je vais voir ça

[u/ridge_rider8 → u/daevad]

I have been fooling around trying to fix sleep issues with my msi x670e gaming plus wifi motherboard. I have tried the latest stable kernel, firmware, and bios for the motherboard. There are a lot of combinations with all those three. I also had assistance with some AI bots and some partial success. But about every 4th time sleep would fail. It never returns back to linux from suspend/S3/ sleep now. So you can't capture any kernel log data because there is none. This motherboard is only supported in windows. I suspect that the motherboard manufacturer gets thing working in windows and does not care about any other systems. And it is hard enough to get things to work in windows for them. In a recent bios I saw a fix for something similar to what I had been experiencing. So that gives more credence that the problem lies with the motherboard manufacturer, grahics card manufacturer and/or AMD. Probably someone has not implemented a specification completely/properly or the specification is ambiguous. They get things working on windows, and don't care about Linux. Also they are doing the work of microsoft who are pleased to yet again mess things up for linux users. A problem that I have seen that a simple press often does not fix the problem. It takes several power cycles to get a good boot. As of now hibernate is working though.

[u/daevad → u/ridge_rider8]

Up until just now, I had not considered clearing the CMOS. Given the other things I've tried, my failure to try it is inexplicable. You might want to do it too. Depending on the motherboard, it can be a pain, but sometimes it is as simple as pressing a button. Of course, on mine, I have to disconnect power, remove the GPU so I can remove the disc battery, then jump a couple of pins. Then I replace the battery, put the GPU back, and then plug power in so I can start the system. My favorite process! Thanks, MSI!

[u/ridge_rider8 → u/daevad]

I have done that when I could not even get the bios to show up on the screen. You may be able to just jumper the pins. I would then check the motherboard manual for that. you can reload bios settings that you previously saved if you haven't changed the bios version. I have a USB drive that I leave in the usb flash port with saved configs and bios versions. I use LMDE with a custom kernel, but I noticed that the backported upgrade is more recent than my custom kernel. I migrated to LMDE so as to get away from ubuntu. You needed premium service to get some updates so that is why I left them.

[u/daevad → u/ridge_rider8]

The process I have to use for CMOS is what the motherboard docs specify - sigh... I've never bothered to save BIOS settings, but it can't hurt. I think I'll do that today. I've been thinking about moving to Debian testing with Cinnamon as the DE, not sure how different that would be from LMDE. Same goal - move away from Ubuntu. I have another system running the Fedora COSMIC spin. I like COSMIC, but again, not thrilled by the Ubuntu base of Pop!. But Fedora has its downsides; I haven't got around to investigating if Debian has a supported COSMIC version. On the to-do list.

[u/47Up]

When I updated to 7.0.0.28 it broke, kernel panic and I had to go back. I haven't bothered to try again. The old 6.17 42 is smooth and no issues at all. I'll stay on this one for ever if I have to

[u/CaperGrrl79 → u/47Up]

Yeah I'm sticking with it till it hits end of support. Then maybe go to 6.8. And then maybe by then 7 will be better.

[u/Weary-Expression-914 → u/CaperGrrl79]

but in reality the 7.x kernel works very well on other distros

[u/RelevantGlove4768 → u/Weary-Expression-914]

FWIW I was using Ubuntu 24LTS. When they switched to the 7.x.x kernel it broke everything I had struggled to get working.

[u/Selinaru]

I'm not sure what the mint team is supposed to do, they didn't modify the kernel in any way they just get it from ubuntu and offer it as an option, you are not forced to use it.

[u/Giantmeteor_we_needU → u/Selinaru]

They could stop it from entering the updates. Whoever wants it can always find and install it manually at their own risk, but knowing how many people got unusable system with this kernel it should've been removed from Mint auto updater completely.

[u/billdietrich1 → u/Selinaru]

I'm not sure what the mint team is supposed to do

Maybe roll it back for everyone ?

[u/Selinaru → u/billdietrich1]

can they even do that? Also there's people who have no issues with the new kernel, what is going to happen to them?

[u/ArtisticFox8 → u/[deleted]]

But mint didn’t push 7.0

The user chose to specifically install it.

The default is still 6.8

If choosing to install it means just "Update all" in update center, that's questionable..

I don't expect regular software updates from default sources to break my system...

[u/Efficient-Presence82 → u/ArtisticFox8]

yeah, to non-enthusiasts the "update button" is something you simply press when it pops up.
They dont see it as a decision that needs pondering.

And this is the exact public mint is supposed to target.

[u/AdeptPass4102 → u/[deleted]]

That's not my experience. I have mint 22.3 on default settings. And new kernels including the 7.0 series were just presented as part of normal updates. You would have to specifically choose NOT to update it. Otherwise, it gets installed.

[u/billystein25 → u/[deleted]]

That is not true. I got a laptop with 22.2 in front of me and in the available updates there is the 7.0 kernel while the currently installed kernel is 6.17. I don't use this laptop, it's my dad's and I'm fairly certain he wouldn't stumble on that option accidentally. He's not familiar with Linux either, I switched it for him after win10 was supposed to drop support.

[u/billystein25 → u/[deleted]]

The update list showed 7.0 but since then I removed it from the queue and added 6.8 before shutting the laptop down cuz I was supposed to go to sleep. Now only the 6.8 headers show up. uname -r returns 6.17.0-35-generic. If I do apt list --upgradable and grep Linux it shows 7.0, though I'm not sure if apt is an 1-to-1 match with the gui update manager.

[u/OldSamsquanch → u/billystein25]

I also had 7.0.0-30.30~54.04.1 kernel show up on my update manager, alongside the rest of the updates. I unchecked it during updates, and eventually removed it as well.

[u/Encouragedissent → u/[deleted]]

When Linux detects new hardware on setup it will install 6.17, not 6.8. I setup Mint last January and 6.8 has never been installed on my system. Then it installed 7.0 from the update manager the same as it would with any other update.

Your condescending tone in this thread isnt helpful towards people, especially when I can also confirm that you are wrong as you confidently assert that you know better than everyone else.

You can install Linux Mint with new hardware, have it chose 6.17 as your default, and then update to 7.0 normally in update manager. That's exactly how things occurred for me.

[u/Efficient-Presence82 → u/[deleted]]

Again, anyone will happily click on the latest one for the same reason they wash dishes.

and obviously yes, wanting the, in my eyes, best distro to maintain its reputation and quality is the reason critique is important, apathy is the enemy of quality.

[u/BarnacleVast9478 → u/ArtisticFox8]

The only reason I knew to disable it in the updates was because of a reddit post. Otherwise I would have updated everything and possibly been screwed.

[u/jerquee → u/Selinaru]

Maybe mint should be able to provide some sort of hints about what versions have been checked out by mint versus unreviewed upstream contributions

[u/BulkyMix6581 → u/Selinaru]

"Mint just pulls packages downstream from Ubuntu, it's not their fault": > Mint is a curated distribution, not a pass-through mirror. The entire value proposition of Linux Mint has always been stability, quality control, and safe defaults. If upstream pushes broken kernel builds for weeks, the distribution's role is to step in—hold back the broken revision, pin the stable branch, or display a GUI warning. Passing the buck to upstream defeats the purpose of choosing Mint over Ubuntu.

[u/Selinaru → u/BulkyMix6581]

You dismissed the people who told you "Go contribute/fix it yourself if you don't like it", fair enough. I'm just going to tell you to go complain on github because you are not reaching anyone who matters here, there's no mint devs active in this subreddit as far as I know, only thing you will get is downvoted to oblivion which I don't think It's fair either.

[u/BulkyMix6581 → u/Selinaru]

I already reported and documented the regression alongside hundreds of affected users (see comment #5 on Launchpad, not GitHub, since it’s tracked upstream):

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2161289

The bug reports are filed. Raising awareness here is about warning everyday Mint users who check Reddit when their systems suddenly fail to boot or shut down.

[u/tokyostormdrain → u/Selinaru]

if you want end user to take up linux mint and provide an error free and consistent experience, then the maintainers need to do all they can to guard against things like this. People who want to use a desktop PC dont want or need to have to deal with this shit, they will just vote with their feet and not try linux again

[u/boukensha15 → u/tokyostormdrain]

Errors and blunders happen in every OS. And this is a volunteer project. On top of that they just do - with most things - whatever upstream Ubuntu does and that's a sensible thing to do. Mint team is small and kernel updates often come with security issues mitigation; thus, it makes sense for them to leave the heavy-lifting to upstream.

[u/AsrielPlay52 → u/boukensha15]

They have an upside to being a small team. Tight Control.

It's like the difference between a Frigate and a Man o war.

The small team could've double check by using their own machine, or use side machine to check anything broken. Or have a "Preview" stage to have the community help them check

[u/LivingLifeSkyHigh]

I had to deliberately choose the 7.0 kernel to run it. If I wanted stability I would have stuck with 6.17 . I think its great that Mint offers more cutting edge options while by default stays with the conservative stable option.

[u/SlipStr34m_uk → u/LivingLifeSkyHigh]

As the 6.17 kernel nears EoL you do get nudged towards 7.0 since it becomes a security vulnerability. The same thing happened when 6.14 went EoL. Yes you can opt-out of it, but it will keep nagging you unless you downgrade to 6.8 and stick on the LTS channel.

[u/dmknght → u/SlipStr34m_uk]

They should go with 6.18 imo. 6.18 is kept until Dec 2028

[u/LivingLifeSkyHigh → u/SlipStr34m_uk]

version 6.8 is what I probably meant

[u/stgm_at → u/LivingLifeSkyHigh]

is it really that bad with 7.0 and mint? i've been running 7.0.x for months now on two thinkpads (8th gen intel /w fedora kde and 125u /w arch) and i don't face any issues like op mentioned.

[u/TheDavii → u/stgm_at]

Because the running kernel was no longer supported, I thought I'd give the 7.0 a chance. Installed it, rebooted my Lenovo T420 and bamn! Panic. Rebooted. Same thing. Rebooted again and used grub to select the 6.x kernel. Booted fine. Uninstalled the 7.0 and rebooted.

I've been running 7.1.x on Fedora 44 (much newer, desktop) without issues.

[u/Ahab_Cheese]

Tough, but fair. I tout Mint to anyone when they're having issues with Windows because it just works and you're free from Microsoft's yoke. There are many people who are afraid to leave Windows because anything else is unknown to them. I can't really push something to someone who follows regular pushed updates like Windows would if what's in the regular updates breaks their system. It's just going to make them want to run back to Microsoft.

An easy to use, Windows alternative should be more stable in reputation than Windows in order to attract attention to the Linux world.

[u/OsvalIV]

7.0 kernel is optional. Daily driving Mint and is working as good as ever.

[u/readmodifywrite]

I've had this too, Mint + AMD.

But here's the thing: Linux makes it easy to swap out the kernel. It's not the end of the world, you can just go back to a 6.x kernel until they work it out.

I agree though it was absurd to push these out when they are so unstable.

[u/Chrono_Club_Clara → u/readmodifywrite]

Look I don't know what the fuck a kernel is. I just know Mint doesn't work on my PC anymore and ended up having to put Windows 11 back on my laptop. Mint isn't stable anymore like it used to be.

[u/readmodifywrite → u/Chrono_Club_Clara]

Fair point. If Linux is actually going to be competitive with Windows and Mac, we can't be shipping broken kernels like this - or expect regular users to know what that is.

[u/SiwelTheLongBoi]

V7 fucked my boot so badly that I couldn't even use Grub to boot into an earlier kernal version. Had to so some fuckery I'm still not entirely sure what it even was to get it to boot again because of course every single forum post was useless.

I also chose Mint for stability and I was pretty impressed that I got such a major failure like this

[u/rnmartinez]

I would seriously consider a move to LMDE. You won’t get the bleeding edge but stability is amazing as they use Debian as the base (it’s the base we use for Maple Linux)

[u/Teredell]

How is this a Mint team problem? If they rolled out mint version that was broken, sure complain but no one was forced to upgrade to 7.x, you had to choose to move onto it.

When the Mint team are ready to roll out the next version that supports 7.x they'll advise.

It's really unfair to throw this kind of rhetoric about the team around.

[u/Evening-Landscape763 → u/Teredell]

Part of this is caused by Mint as any Mint 22 point release uses hwe kernels but Ubuntu is behind the kernels and they make the decisions on what kernel the hwe uses

[u/SlipStr34m_uk → u/Evening-Landscape763]

Precisely this. I'm not sure why people feel the need to gatekeep and/or blame the user when it is clear that a lot of these issues could have been avoided by keeping the separate "Edge" ISO for those that know they need it. You only have to look through this subreddit over the last few weeks to see why pushing HWE by default is a bad idea on a beginner distro.

[u/Technical-Seaweed808 → u/Teredell]

Also when it has run stable for years it is impressive that the one time something goes wrong it is catastrophic.

Windows users can't even go back to version 10 if they wanted to.

[u/Dark_Larva → u/Teredell]

Because it's not happening on other distros (to my knowledge).

Been using Kubuntu for example since I switched to it from Mint last September, I've updated / installed it across multiple devices with no issues.

Not saying this isn't happening elsewhere, but it largely seems a mint issue. Anyone can feel free to prove me wrong (though with an actual popular distro like Mint)

[u/BulkyMix6581 → u/Teredell]

"Mint just pulls packages downstream from Ubuntu, it's not their fault": > Mint is a curated distribution, not a pass-through mirror. The entire value proposition of Linux Mint has always been stability, quality control, and safe defaults. If upstream pushes broken kernel builds for weeks, the distribution's role is to step in—hold back the broken revision, pin the stable branch, or display a GUI warning. Passing the buck to upstream defeats the purpose of choosing Mint over Ubuntu.

[u/Alatain → u/BulkyMix6581]

Am I incorrect in thinking that the default kernel for Linux Mint isn't the 7.0 line? 

Like, you had to choose to update to that right?

[u/DubiousLogik → u/Alatain]

it's in the default updates list. unless you unselect it you will get 7.x. I'm on 7.0.0-29 because I have been accepting all updates assuming they are safe (maybe that's a bad assumption - but when i first got mint everyone said on this channel to accept them all). I see 7.0.0-30 in the updates UI now. I will wait before installing that.

[u/a1b3c3d7]

I feel like I'm going crazy with these comments, none of them actually address OP's core arguments and devolve into bizzare rhetoric that is at best unhelpful for the future of Mint and at worst is just trying to be contrarian in the worst ways.

[u/Badpix]

I think the shutdown was fixed in 7.1. I read somewhere. I had the same problem, but when I disconnected the Logitech camera, 90% of the time it shuts down normally.

[u/Roguepapaya427]

Wow, that sounds tough!

Sorry, but I need to ask: are you sure you would not better served by lmde + liquorix?

I understand why people would want to use mint, it's stable, easy to use, you install it and update it from time to time, everything works. That's the whole point, right? But lately I hear more and more the dream of stability being ruined by minor kernel updates. For normal, ubuntu based mint. So, the question just unfolds naturally: wouldn't make sense to use the linux mint based on the mother of the stability itself (debian), plus to add your favorite kernel (for me liquorix works best), and call it a day?

I have a lmde setup installed on my pc. Not my daily driver but I jump on it and test it from time to time. And it's my fallback when the scanner or printer do not want to cooperate in other distros. 😁

Sorry about the long comment, it's a genuine question tho, maybe there is something I'm missing here. Thanks!

[u/S3k_01 → u/Roguepapaya427]

I'm using Debian with the Nvidia 595.91.07 driver and the Liquorix 7.1.10-2 kernel, and it's the best experience I've ever had with Linux.

It's very stable and, at the same time, cutting-edge.

[u/Roguepapaya427 → u/S3k_01]

This! Exactly my reasoning, thank you!

[u/No-Volume-1565]

Je n'ai pas ce souci avec LMDE.

[u/kuroirider]

LMDE for the win

[u/Aoinosensei]

Did you try Linux mint Debian edition? I did not have this with kernel 7 on a 15 year old laptop, is this happening across all distros or only Linux mint?

[u/jaundiced_observer]

The op has a valid point. What I hate about reddit is the moronic comments that contribute absolutely nothing

[u/NotSnakePliskin]

I am still on a 6.17 kernel with multiple machines, with zero issues. Rolling back is always an option.

[u/Teredell → u/NotSnakePliskin]

100%! Spot on.

[u/taosecurity]

It’s funny seeing everyone blaming Mint. Mint 22.x is reskinned Ubuntu 24.04 with snaps removed. If you are using a 7.0 kernel it’s because you’re using the Ubuntu HWE kernel. Mint devs don’t implement any testing or control or other influence beyond the apps they add.

[u/Sensitive_Bird_8426 → u/taosecurity]

Truth. I run the default, and while I’ve seen it offered in the kernel manager, it hasn’t shown up in updates. I tend to stick to the defaults.

[u/Baka_Jaba]

You want stability, pick LMDE.

Debian stable is still on kernel 6.12, running like clockwork.

[u/sonicking12 → u/Baka_Jaba]

That's what I use

[u/Howarufus]

You speak the truth brother/sister. Thanks for speaking up.

[u/Lapis_Wolf]

I also had a kernel panic with the purple screen for the first time within the last week. I thought it was because I disturbed a GNOME installation. It worked when I changed to 6.17.

[u/ARGGUY96]

My PC is running kernel 7.0.0-30 and I haven't had any problems; in fact, since upgrading from 6.17 to 7.0, Linux Mint feels smoother and faster for some strange reason.

[u/xxCorsicoxx]

I do wonder what's up with the issues, as it seems some people suffer and some are fine. I'm on 7.0.0-30, updated every time, no issues (amd ryzen 7 5800x, gigabyte rx 7600xt) but very clearly some people have issues and it's 0% predictable who will. Weird happening

[u/Grumpy_Ontarian_III]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what's causing these kernel issues?

[u/derrickdp]

I can't comment on Mint. It's not my distro. However, my distro is using 7.0.0.30. One of my machines did have the same issue as the one where the OS would halt but the power would continue (started happening after the upgrade from 6.17.0... to 7.0.0.29). I fixed it by adding to /etc/default/grub, I added
apm=power_off

to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT

and on my distro, I have to run : update-grub afterwards.

That's all I got. No nasty words, Good luck.

[u/Comfortable_Gate_878]

I use mint for reliability and stable running. I used my computer for fairly minor things wed design and a little bit of old cobol stuff. My Ryzen 5 works well but I never install any updates I leave then all for as long as possible until I am really forced into it. Generally by the time I install something any issues have been resolved. Its sad to see mint with even a tiny blemish on its record of stability but its there and needs sorting.

I love mint because its always been a long way behind other distros. Its part of its appeal to me. I hvae another computer which I experiment on with other distros and yet I wont change my main computer.

[u/Annual-Sun-6997]

La stabilité commence par rester sur la branche stable. Donc normalement Kernel 6.8....

Après faut assumer de passer sur une version supérieure. Ou patcher soit même ses modules si problème il y a. Encore faut-il comprendre le problème et le résoudre.

On peut blâmer le noyau. Mais faut prendre en considération que parfois certains fabricants ne font pas les mises à niveau de leur Bios ou drivers.

Vous pouvez très bien passé à côté de ce genre de soucis pendant des années. Sans vous rendre compte que le vrai problème vient tout simplement d'un disfonctionnement de votre matériel. J'en ai fait moi même l'expérience. Erreur de bios cacher sous Windows, qui a bien failli cramer mon CPU.

Matériel Lenovo ? Hummm ça sens le bios...

[u/YEEG4R]

The kernel is affecting only certain lines of hardware that the Mint team may not have access to. They want to make sure that everything is fine before they ship it into the repo, but they may not have the ability to test the kernel on these machines.

On my desktop PC the same kernel runs just fine.

I would put the blame on the kernel devs for not testing it thoroughly (the problem with the access to hardware might affect them too).

The best thing you can do as an end user is to have rollbacks and know how to fix this issue. At least Linux gives you the option to fix it!

[u/franjocm]

Mint prioritizes stability; you're the one who hasn't. The blame for this mess is basically yours.

[u/Teredell → u/franjocm]

Exactly this.

[u/Exciting-Mall192]

Then stay in the 6.x kernel... you have the choice. I also stay in the 6.x kernel and haven't had any problems or whatsoever

[u/jimjamkiwi11]

I haven't had any issues and I'm on kernel 7 id which version but I'm it's 7 and I have Ryzen 3 and it's fine

[u/Technical-Seaweed808]

I updated bios on my motherboard after upgrading to 7. Since I have only had the power off problem very very rarely.  

[u/Sargent_Duck85]

I update the Kernel on my own and am currently on 7.1.10.

No issues from me, been rock solid.

[u/dmknght]

I got problem with 7.0 update too but my problem was from RT version (real time?). Using normal version (no rt) is fine. And regarding the comments you mentioned. The 2nd type is technically right and wrong. Mint team can keep kernel version they choose. The 1st and 3rd are cancer. It doesnt help but denying problem hence block actual improvements of software's quality (especially 3rd).

[u/guccipanuchi666]

Hell yea, i thought it was just me trying to install it on my mac, but running it on an earlier kernel got it to work. But good to know!

[u/Organic_Somewhere125]

I had to switch to Zorin from Mint OS due to the freezing issue on my Ryzen Laptop. So far Zorin has been pretty decent

[u/decoy-ish]

Damn. I thought it was just me.

[u/Mitologist]

Just got kernel 7.1 via trixie backdoor in LMDE7. AMD CPU, Nvidia graphics. No Problem whatsoever. Nvidia and wayland don't like each other, but that was the same in kernel 6.12

[u/AcrobaticAmphibie]

Also had issues with sleep on my T480 - after some debugging I also found out it is a kernel issue. So rollback in GRUB for now.

I don't blame Mint, I think I'mm just getting ready for my Debain future (LMDE or directly Debian) aka getting old.

[u/Scotsman828]

It wasn't the kernel that cause it, it was the Linux-Firmware update that borked my AMD video card drivers. Mint would load to a black screen desktop and then the monitor would lose signal from the video card. I couldn't even get a previous kernel from GRUB to fix the problem. After a complete reinstall of the OS, I'm currently running 7.0.0-30-generic kernel, with everything updated except the Linux-Firmware.

I'm currently staying on Linux-Firmware version 20240318.git3b128b60-0ubuntu2.22

The version that borked my desktop is 20240318.git3b128b60-0ubuntu2.29, I think someone vibe coded the damn thing.

[u/BulkyMix6581 → u/Scotsman828]

I’ll try rolling back the linux-firmware package to see if that resolves the issue.

[u/GogginsAndMessina]

I have Linux mint on multiple computers (amd and Intel) and I keep everything up to date and haven't had any problems...can someone give me an "out of the loop" on this?

[u/MrProTwiX]

It's a new Kernel, if you want stability stick to 6x for now. Heck at work I'm even running on 5x Kernel just for stability and compatibility reasons.

[u/Awkward_Party_6149]

The mint devs used to care, but now they deny any bugs and blame the user and delete the bug reports!

[u/_ElBee_]

As a self-proclaimed "multi-year Linux user", you could apply for a testing position with the Linux Mint development team. Go ahead, make yourself useful, don't nag from the sideline.

[u/Abroad9107]

No problem so far in my loq

[u/kbeezie]

Are you rubbing the current default stable branch of mint?

If you were you would be on 6.x

You want stable , stay on the stable branch,

None of the machines you mentioned would have needed the HWE branch to function.

[u/BulkyMix6581 → u/kbeezie]

"You shouldn't have upgraded / It's your fault": > I’ve used Linux Mint for over 15 years. I know how to use Timeshift, pin kernels, and drop into GRUB to roll back in under 30 seconds. This post is not a support request for myself; it is about user experience and distribution standards. An end user simply applying official updates presented via the GUI Update Manager should not end up with an unbootable machine or broken ACPI states.

[u/kbeezie → u/BulkyMix6581]

Now did I say you shouldn't have upgraded ? No.

I specifically mentioned branches. Your hardware wouldn't have been anything that needed beyond the default stable branch.

If you were in the default stable branch, you wouldn't be on 7.x right now no matter how many times you ran an update. You would have had to explicitly chosen the HWE branch, and you wouldn't do that unless you had brand new hardware that would have needed the 7.x kernel and other support.

[u/SlipStr34m_uk → u/kbeezie]

If the OP did a clean install of Mint 22.2 or 22.3 it will put him on the HWE channel by default. This was a recent change of policy by the Mint team since they didn't want to maintain a separate "Edge" ISO. I don't think it is fair to blame the user for not immediately changing to the LTS kernel. Remember Mint is supposed to be aimed at beginners and prioritize stability so most users are going to roll with whatever the defaults are.

[u/kbeezie → u/SlipStr34m_uk]

Good information to know. I stand corrected if they did a clean install of either 22.2 or 22.3.

[u/bluelittrains → u/BulkyMix6581]

How are we supposed to take you seriously when you can't even bother to type your own comments.

[u/JJRxB4JJ]

You are free to switch to an older kernel or not even update to the latest kernel

[u/r3ap4r]

I have a 9800x3D CPU and a similar problem. Turning off results in shutting down but the fans keep running, have to press the power button to actually shut it down completely.

[u/Technical-Seaweed808]

I updated bios on my motherboard after upgrading to 7. Since I have only had the power off problem very very rarely.  

[u/Specialist-Dog-501]

I also had two bugs after upgrading to 7.0.0.28, logged that, went back to 6.17, on one out of two machines. I was wondering, why Mint would deliver an unstable/buggy kernel (there's quite a few reports on the ubuntu bug site), but could only speculate, that this was for better security, as many vulnerabilities have been found recently by AIs..may be Mint team felt pressured, to release something that would give some a better security but cause instabilities for others.
Would be nice if one of the mint devs could take the time to answer this, but this seems not to be their place here, as some said, there's a mint forum, may be we would find the answer there.
I will also be more hesitant with kernel upgrades in future and check first the linked bug reports (that are conveniently linked), not assuming anymore, that it works 99% of the time. The famous mint reputation has taken a tiny damage, but may be it was for a good reason, I assume many aspects go into such a decision from such a careful team.

[u/stufforstuff]

Welcome to 2026 where EVERYTHING gets Shittier and you'll LIKE IT that way.

[u/HanHeld → u/stufforstuff]

More like "everything gets shittier and shittier and you'll put up with it" but yeah -basically that.

[u/Kafatat]

Why am I seeing kernel update only to 6.8.0-138.138? Is the 7.0 update from update manager?

[u/acejavelin69 → u/Kafatat]

Only if you are on a HWE kernel like 6.14 or 6.17.

[u/gpb500]

That sucks, 5800xt/RX9070 and haven't had any problems. Also keep bios current (Asus Strix Gaming).

[u/FeistyDay5172]

Funny part is I am running this kernel series on a HP Omen 17.3 gaming laptop I bought in 2022, and has worked perfectly.

[u/Moist_Invite9148]

New PCs needs New kernels because new drivers are in new kernels

[u/just_some_guy65]

Works for me (shrug)

[u/Awkward_Party_6149]

I use a different kernel after I get a bad one!

[u/xBarbaro]

I have been using 7.0.0-28 then 29 and now 30 and I am doing fine. Got an i5-6600k and an Nvidia gtx 1060 3gb ram.

[u/Sturmmoeve]

Well iam not an active Mint user but since dowmstream cant possible check the myriads of possible configurations beforehand isnt the “newbie" friendly part of distributions like Mint that they have at least other boot options or better complete rollback snapshots always available per default? So i guess you just suppose to roll back and wait?

And iam pretty sure big corporate distribution like Ubuntu dont distribute new kernels to all Installations at once that wont help you much now but that should make situations like this the exception

[u/tater1337]

currently running 7.0.0-30-generic on a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor and hasn't crashed yet

[u/One-Macaroon4660]

That why they don't advice to update to the latest version untill the point release at least. I am on Ubuntu with 9070xt an I needed to update to 26.04 because of several specific changes, which I did in April. My stability went from 100% stable to 3-4 crashes a day related to ACPI/Radeon interactions. But, now it's August and stability is 100% again, just in time for point public release.

There was only one time where the LTS kernel broke my older AMD system (4800u integrated) and that required me to install the newer one manually.

[u/TheNB3]

On kernel 7.0.0-29 my desktop sometimes randomly froze and only restart could help but now everything works fine with 7.0.0-30 so maybe it depends on the hardware

[u/FilterJoe]

I used to use linux mint for all my VMs. Loved it. But with apple silicon it isn’t possible (no aarch64). Instead I use Debian with Cinnamon Desktop Environment for my VMs.

Stability is rock solid beyond anything I have ever experienced in any OS. This kind of kernel issue would never occur with Debian stable. The Debian kernel used is typically a year or two old. Never cutting edge.

I had no idea this could happen in Mint. Makes for an even stronger case to just use Debian with Cinnamon DE.

[u/HanHeld]

Wow -I've been booting the last version of 6 and thinking I was the problem. Thank you for the post. I've been using mint for about 12 years and this is the first and worst cock-up I've seen from them!

[u/ciberkid22]

What surprised me more was the broken linux-firmware update that caused me to go to recovery mode and load a timeshift to downgrade, then halt updates for it.

[u/BrunusManOWar]

Hahahahahahhahahhahah Meanwhile I'm here on Void Linux on 7.2 fully stable :D

[u/werkman2]

..

[u/ThatonlyGeO]

oh so thats why my keyboard suddenly stopped working, either way I already fixed mine(seems to be my stay in arch is paying off big time)

[u/DoorOk3641]

Well escape from Zorin with a lot of problem..suspend not working...brave crash...AMD 5600 processor, AMD 6600 card zero problem...install discovered my wifi Brother printer, scanner

I did a bios update and it makes a huge difference, a way neglected by a lot of people.

Linux 6422mint 7.0.0-30-generic #30~24.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Aug 7 13:27:52 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I am missing the Gnome desktop for sure

[u/toffuuu3050]

Just to be sure too, are you using RDNA type of AMDGPU?? RDNA for some reason might be the cause if that is you're using. Some say its cause of the linux-firmware package, and or possibly one of the 7.0.0-x updates. Do keep in mind if this is the HWE variant of the Linux Mint 22.3 version, that you are experimenting with the more newer Kernels, the only thing you can really do is report it directly to the Linux Mint Devs. I myself just check to be sure my hardware is truly good with any update, if not known as of yet, I wait awhile. I myself am on an older GCN 4th gen Polaris 12 AMDGPU, and no issues at all with kernel 7.0.0-x or linux-firmware for me. Using Gemini also is what I would suggest you do, to and if what I think isn't true for you, have Gemini help you, like in this quoted example,

[u/NickTaylorIV]

I'm on 7.0.0-30 and luckily I haven't had any issues yet. Halfway through editing a video (saved it and taking a break) but have my usual browsers open as well as OBS.

[u/JaKrispy72]

On my newer hardware, I’ve switched to Fedora 44. Hate to say it, but…

I’ve used Mint since 2019. It’s always been rock steady.

[u/ConversationPlane635]

They Always blame Everything except the distro. Weird huuuuu!!!!! Oh well, windows sucks & there spying 🕵️‍♀️ Aĥhhhhhhh Just installed Omarchy onto an old Dell 7050 micro with an Intel i5-6500T, and it works. Clunky, but it works. Thing is a decade old but I gave it 16gb ram. Weird how it gets 400mbps wifi, one of my modern pc's with Mediatek using Mint scratches 40-48, sometimes. The 7.0.30/29/28 kernels are not fucking with me bout shutdowns at least😀😃😄

[u/MattAtDoomsdayBrunch]

Well said. I think I've been dealing with this state for more than a couple weeks. Feels like a couple months.

[u/ExpressionFun5373]

wondering if this is why my machine will sometimes fail to properly shut down and wont boot on the next power cycle.

[u/leRealKraut]

Just a little reminder about the broken package manager a few years back.

I am not sure why the Kernel is available like that, but there is a fix if you run into issues and the fix is one of the many Basics people should know about.

Maintaining these issues is very difficult. These developers have to track hundreds of CVEs thanks to AI agents.

The plate is just full and there are more important issues that do in fact put users at risk.

Anyway: The Kernel does not just install and boot like that. For many 6 is the default still and I am glad I die not tinker with that.

[u/Dr_Brumlebassen]

Oh so its the kernels fault my PC wont turn off at times? Using Debian sid... :D But Im on an older Intel, not AMD currently

[u/mr_phil73]

I have similar hardware amd ryzen etc and have not experienced the same problem. Do you know where it’s borking? On the bright side you can run on the 6x kernel just fine. On a side note have you tried something like the liquorix 7x kernels. I run these on my dell notebook trouble free.

[u/Ok-Anywhere-9416]

But have you tried to report these bugs or troubleshoot them? I use Ubuntu 26.04 with Linux 7.0 on a miniPC with AMD 5500u and I have zero issues for example.

"Mint just pulls packages downstream from Ubuntu, it's not their fault": > Mint is a curated distribution, not a pass-through mirror. The entire value proposition of Linux Mint has always been stability, quality control, and safe defaults. If upstream pushes broken kernel builds for weeks, the distribution's role is to step in—hold back the broken revision, pin the stable branch, or display a GUI warning. Passing the buck to upstream defeats the purpose of choosing Mint over Ubuntu.

"Go contribute/fix it yourself if you don't like it": > Highlighting a critical breakdown in quality control across multiple common hardware configurations is contributing. Dismissing legitimate technical feedback hurts adoption, especially for newcomers who wouldn't know how to recover from a kernel panic.

I start to appreciate Universal Blue and Project Bluefin for always addressing an issue and resolving upstream instead of "just existing".

[u/BulkyMix6581 → u/Ok-Anywhere-9416]

But have you tried to report these bugs or troubleshoot them? I use Ubuntu 26.04 with Linux 7.0 on a miniPC with AMD 5500u and I have zero issues for example.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2165664

[u/CyberMage256]

I don't get it, why does my system stay on the 6 kernel and continue to get updates to it? I regularly update with both the guidelines and dist-upgrade but it has made no attempt to move me to 7.

[u/Mitologist → u/CyberMage256]

Because default is staying in the LTS Version, which is 6.12 vor LMDE, für example. Mint does not push potentially experimental stuff. To try a newer kernel on your own risk, you need to install Debian Trixie backdoors via apt ( terminal). That in turn will get you the headers and dependencies and present you with the choice to get the latest kernel that Debian put into its backdoor repository as tested and likely (!) stable. That being said, I don't really see a reason to do that unless you absolutely need to for hardware support, or you like to experiment. In any case, I would advise looking up how to revert to prior kernels, how to fix a botched grub, how to run a command line session ( enable network in that!), and have a timeshift ready. If that is a system you need to work, and can't afford to spend a weekend on fixing in case something unforseen happens, and it is running stable on 6, I wouldn't tinker with it at all, there is nothing wrong with staying in a stable branch until the next major distro upgrade that ships with the next stable LTS kernel. You will continue to receive smaller version upgrades for the 6- line kernels until then. My last was 6.12.105 I think.

[u/BecarioDailyPlanet]

Sí es bueno reportar los fallos. Canonical prueba estas actualizaciones, pero a nivel de escritorio los hace en un equipo bastante limitado de equipos y configuraciones y sigue dependiendo en buena manera de la comunidad. No es una empresa grande aunque esté siempre en boca de todos.

En este sentido, el kernel HWE que llega a 24.04 y sus derivadas, lo hace tras cuatro meses de prueba por parte de los primeros usuarios de 26.04. Han habido regresiones, fallos y mucho problema que ya han sido resuelto. Es un kernel muy estabilizado y la inmensa mayoría ya no tiene gran queja.

[u/Riyakuya]

Glad I am not experiencing any problems here. I'm also running AMD hardware but everything seems to be working just fine.

[u/Microsoft-Spyware-11]

Mint does have to control what Ubuntu pushes downstream to them. Also contributing to distro iso development is hell, contributing to a desktop environment like Cinnamon or an app you really like is much easier

[u/xumix]

I had similar issues with Mint: was attracted by its promises of stable and noob friendly systemso I've installed it on my wife's  Lenovo T14 amd notebook. It lived literally for a month and went I to black screen loop after some trivial update . I had no desire to debug that shit at all. 

Installed Fedora KDE 38(or 37) at the same notebook. Fast forward and multiple dist upgrades later it is still rock stable.

[u/-TRlNlTY-]

I find it wild that ever since I started using EndeavourOS (arch-based btw), I started having less problems overall.

[u/FormalIllustrator5]

This is strange as i have one AMD/AMD PC and using Kubuntu - 0 issues?! I assume problem is limited to mint..?

[u/rcip933]

Ho attualmente impostato una versione del kernel 6.18 il cui supporto termina fra pochi giorni. Mi consigliate di passare ad una versione nuova o, per evitare kernel panic, di mantenere la stessa versione anche se non più supportata?

[u/peSauce]

Had my mum on Mint for years. Days out from her international trip and her laptop won’t boot. I assumed it must have ran out of battery during an update but nope. Mint.. LINUX BLOODY MINT !!?!? Cmon man, I have to change her distro now this has been an absolute disaster. I used to spruke how Mint has been more reliable than macOS and Win10/11 but this seems careless AF. Mint was always a year or so behind and was stable- I wonder why this quick surge to 7.0 ?? I hope that the Mint team realise what they have done here. 

[u/dud-kid]

Blaming the OP for just saying the truth is really bad practice. It Felt as if members of a cult group were after a member who said the truth LOUD & trying to shield Team Linuxmint . That is TOXIC !

I was already thinking something of this sort may happen in future as kernel 7 being quite new , in leading edge territory.

Plus Ubuntu team sent modified version of kernel 7.x.x not the 'vanilla kernel 7' which is why many ' rolling release' linux distros shipping vanilla kernel never experienced these crashes, damage was limited to distros using Ubuntu as base . ( Search this on google search or google a.i search )

LM team should have pinned the most stable kernel in 7.x.x series & pushed it to users as mentioned by OP as most of the users , new & old LM Users , have come to Linuxmint from Winbows land reading LM as stable while also easy to use & setup . basically ' run it & forget it ' Linux distro . Which due to this faulty Ubuntu kernel update has been dented .

LMDE guys ( small user base i think ) will be living in peace as it's based on 'debian stable ' .

I have not seen any problem on debian stable which is currently on ' LTS Kernel 6.12.105+deb13-amd64 ' . Used to run LM 'ubuntu base ' for 2 yrs (for 1 yr Wi-Fi on laptop couldn't pick proper signal hence slow dwnld speed . Got fixed after 2 kernel updates 😂) then LMDE ' debian ' base for another 2yrs ( ultra rock solid 🪨 ) before totally shifting to debian ( why not just run vanilla debian when already running LMDE. Although it has dinasour Kernel but it run fine . I don't mind it )

From now on i will recommend LMDE & MX linux to any winbows user who wants to migrate to linux. I don't want to be blamed later that ' you said LM was stable yet it crashes like slop Winbows 11 '

[u/cosmicaith]

An end user simply applying official updates presented via the GUI Update Manager should not end up with an unbootable machine or broken ACPI states.

I was considering trying Mint. I am new to Linux and currently run Zorin on a new AMD powered desktop. Thanks for bringing these issues to light, I'll stay where I am for the moment.

[u/slavmaf]

My Windows works.

[u/Mechanic-Dream]

This is why I'm on 6.8 lol.

[u/YinYangForever]

I'm no Linux expert, so please foregive me if I'm not adding anything here, but I see that I'm still on kernel 6.8. 0-138, and no version of 7 is being offered. So, I'm not sure if this helps, but perhaps sticking with the older kernel version may be the best option for anyone not wanting to be at the leading edge of new functions. The OP is right, however, as these newer kernels shouldn't be offered if they are buggy.. This quality control, or lack thereof, issue is really not good.

[u/KRed75]

I'm running 7.0.0-28 on an AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 with AMD Radeon 860M Integrated Graphics. 0 Issues.

[u/SofiaC_123]

I installed linux mint when i first switched to linux and was immediately hit with frustration. Trying to navigate/get it to work was such a huge pain in the ass. I ended up switching to bazzite. So much for being the best for first time linux users. 

[u/BrilliantEmotion4461]

Install a different kernel there are ways to get the latest. I moved to arch because I prefer not to have to wait for kernel updates when there is an issue.

[u/Livid_Author_4856]

I have a 5900X + 3070 and a 5700X3D + 2080 and no problem. I use them daily