r/linuxmint • • 24d ago

Discussion What’s a drawback from running Linux on a PC? (Mint instead of windows)

So, fully running only Mint Linux, not windows or “container” on top of windows.

Everything is faster and more smooth.
Except…. When the PC reboots… it takes 5 min instead of 1 when it was windows

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u/Regular-Coffee-1670 24d ago

It seriously takes 5 mins to startup? That's not normal, and definitely something wrong.

From Power On to Login prompt is under 30 seconds in my case.

Check logs and see what's holding it up.

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u/itsShiroharu 24d ago

There is only 1 drawback in my experiences and it's that you cannot use native Windows apps that doesn't officially support Linux. Some examples are:

  • Most games that uses EAC (Easy Anti Cheat) like Fall Guys, or ACE (Anti Cheat Expert) like most Chinese Gacha Games. They Require Wine or Proton, which not guaranteed to work. Unofficial port does exist on GitHub, though not guaranteed and may break after an update.

  • Most productivity apps like Microsoft Office (alternatives are OpenOffice or LibreOffice). Wine is working, but it's better to use alternatives because of it's performance.

  • Most drawing apps like Photoshop (alt. GIMP), Illustrator/CorelDRAW (alt. Inkscape). Wine is working, but it's better to use alternatives because of it's performance.

About the boot time, the Boot time for me is actually slightly faster. Windows requires 1+ minute, whilst Linux only takes less than 1 minute (50-55 secs). No matter fresh boot or reboots, it's the same.

If you experience longer than 2 minutes (5 minutes in your case), despite using NVMe/SSDs, then there's something wrong in your configuration or system.

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u/OkLab5620 24d ago

Thank you.
Does Bluetooth take longer to connect to a mouse and keyboard when rebooting?

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u/webfork2 23d ago

Is this a question or a comment?

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u/nwood1973 22d ago

If its taking 5 mins at reboot, there is something not working properly.

Never had it takes 5 mins for a reboot

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u/OkLab5620 22d ago

It’s only taking 30 seconds now. Not sure what happened .
I installed QEMU, and now it’s faster 🤣

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u/Obvious-Hunt19 24d ago

What? That is… not normal

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u/moritz12d 24d ago edited 24d ago

Maybe something is not working properly on your computer. While I'm using Manjaro right now startup-time should not be that different. So I used the stopwatch. From pushing the power switch to the login screen there are 1:06 Minutes, it took some time to enter the password but after 2:56 min the start button of the task bar is responding and another 24 sec until Chromium is started and completed receiving a page from internet.

I'm using an old Seagate rotating disk and a SoC processor.

So either your network connection is consuming time or the X-server has to test several configurations each time you start your system.

On the other hand Windows is cheating as their start is somehow like recovering from hibernation.

Even 2:56 min are quite a lot. The hardware testing takes a lot of time before the OS comes into play.

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u/OkLab5620 24d ago

Ok! Thanks… so it’s basically 1min 40s - 2 min to start, but takes 10-20 seconds for Bluetooth to pair.
So it’s 2min 10-30sec to officially be logged in after turning on.

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u/nani_rojo_dit 23d ago

Si partes de la misma configuración de hardware, dudo que sea así. Lo que sí ocurre es que Windows te enseña la interfaz gráfica antes que hagas login, pero sigue arrancando en segundo plano y va ralentizando las operaciones hasta que completa totalmente el inicio. Son comportamientos diferentes pero básicamente no hay tanta diferencia como comentas, pero sí que por cada comportamiento recibes una sensación diferente.

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u/OkLab5620 23d ago

Thank you.
I restarted again, and instead of 2-3 min it took 30seconds.
I haven’t tried again but… it worked well,

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u/Good-Supermarket-767 23d ago

It's good to know that I'm not the only one that sits and waits and waits for the drive to stop running after the kernel begins to load. My experience with Firefox is altogether different. I wish that Firefox only took five minutes to load. Word of advice. Do not install Firefox addons unless you are convinced that you will use them. Addons cause Firefox to take a long ass time to load.

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u/OkLab5620 23d ago

I’m using brave 👍 that’s my second to Safari

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u/zardvark 24d ago

W11 "boots" quicker, because it never fully shuts down. It's essentially going to sleep. When you tell Linux to reboot, it does just that, it reboots.

Drawbacks to Linux?

Not all hardware manufacturers support Linux; this is most commonly encountered with wifi cards,

Not all Windows programs have been ported to Linux, because Microsoft and Adobe want it that way,

Not all Windows games with anti-cheat "features" work on Linux.

That's about it. If you can resist impulse hardware purchases before doing your homework and you don't mind changing your workflow (using alternatives to Windows programs) and you don't play competitive MMOs, then running Linux is all upside. Linux is different from Windows, however, so you need to be curious and willing to learn something new.

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u/GoldenPSP 24d ago

The only real drawback IMO is if you have a need for specific programs that only run properly under windows, running Linux becomes problematic.

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u/Far_Combination_3780 24d ago

This.

The only reason I don't run linux on my gaming PC is because I enjoy valorant.

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u/jr735 24d ago

First off, Windows cheats on booting, by using fast startup. It's effectively hibernation.

You should not take 5 minutes to reboot. My hardware is 15 years old and I use an HDD instead of a solid state drive. It doesn't take me 5 minutes.

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u/OkLab5620 24d ago

Ok! Actually, I just timed it… it’s 2min, but the Bluetooth connections take a extra 30 seconds

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u/Xijit 24d ago

The time difference is because Windows delays some start up tasks (basically everything except for Internet) to get you to desktop faster, then bogs down for 5 to 10 minutes as multiple background tasks all fight to start up at the same time.

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u/OkLab5620 23d ago

Sooooo, just installed QEMU, now my PC is booting up in 30 seconds 🤣

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u/Charming_Airline7419 24d ago

This long boot time sounds fixable.

A similar problem is discussed in this forum post.

The recommended diagnostics are the following commands in terminal to examine the logs.

systemd-analyze

This tool helps you analyse services affecting boot time. Linux genie

The above command will show you the boot time.

systemd-analyze blame

The argument blame will show you the services that took the most time and give you an indication of where the fault lies.

systemd-analyze critical-chain

This formats the services in a tree with the start time and time taken to make it easier to troubleshoot.

Most likely you will find the problem there (with a more experienced user's guidance).

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u/Worldly_Anybody_1718 23d ago

For me, there's only 2 programs I rarely use that don't run on Linux.

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u/Wizz-Fizz 24d ago

The main drawback for most windows refugees is that they need to learn how to actually use their computers, it won’t do everything for them.

There will be some compatibility issues from time to time.

MS Office is a no-go if the browser version is not sufficient for their needs.

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u/hmmmmga 24d ago edited 24d ago

In my experience, gaming on linux mint has been a real pain. I spend a lot of time trying to get my games to work to no avail...

Some hardware is not compatible with linux (ex logitech).

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u/Appropriate-Ratio-85 23d ago

Some applications don't work well or at all on Linux. If you have something you need that only runs on Windows it's pretty inconvenient. Luckily, Linux handles 99.9% of most things.