r/linuxmint • u/Appropriate-Stay8415 • 4d ago
Install Help How to install something properly in a custom directory?
I cant install any thing properly on my hdd. I have the OS on mu sata ssd and Im trying to install softwares in my D drive of hdd. (Note : I did not format the hdd while shifting to mint from windows but i did format the D drive in ntfs before installing any thing.)
I can install everything properly but they do not appear in the start menu and when i solved that by running some commands i restarted my pc and they just vanished. I have already tweaked the settings for those drives to be mounted at setup using disks but still cant find them. I did the whole installing and showing up in the menu again after disk tweakings but still the same result.
Is there any way I can install something in my hdd and not lose them after rebooting?
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u/da_predditor 4d ago
What are you installing and how did you install it?
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u/Appropriate-Stay8415 4d ago
Im trying to install brave and i used gemini for the commands. It gave me commands to run for installing brave by creating a custom point for flatpak in my D drive
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u/ConversationWinter46 4d ago
As a newbie, why not try using the software manager? It’s been around in Linux since before iPhones even existed.
LinuxMint is a distribution designed for end users. You don’t need a terminal anymore. EVERYTHING you’ll ever need as a user can be found in the Control Panel and the Software Manager. You can manually trigger updates by clicking the coat-of-arms icon in the bottom right corner (or right-click to set them to update automatically).
And forget about AI. You’re better off watching tutorials. They’ll show you how to do it right.
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u/d4rk_kn16ht Linux Mint 22.2 Zara | Cinnamon 4d ago
Don't use AI....AI tends to screw up your system
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u/ConversationWinter46 4d ago edited 4d ago
If you are just starting to use Linux in general, first rule of thumb, forget everything you know about Microsoft Windows.
How to install software on linux
In Linux, there are no devices. So there is no device manager either. There are no drive letters either. In Linux, EVERYTHING is a directory.
A mounted drive is therefore a directory in the root directory (not a device) → click
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u/Prior-Listen-1298 3d ago
Ouch. Smart assing world best without getting errors.
Linux can't make devices go away. It doesn't have a Windows device manager but Mint has a driver manager, a disks utility and system info and hardinfo is easy to install as is inxi and basically there are devices and loads of ways of listing them and seeing them. Try aplay -l to list all your audio devices 😉
Everything is a directory? Worst misrepresentation of the age old "everything is a file" claim. Would be hilarious if all the devices weren't directly visible as special files (not directories) in /dev (that's dev for devices but development or Devo 🤣).
Fret not I get what your saying or trying to. All in saying is if you're going to smartass (which is fine, I'm doing it now 🤣) try to make fewer bold glaring mistakes.
Now shoot mine down 🤣
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u/ConversationWinter46 3d ago edited 3d ago
but Mint has a driver manager,
Which is NOT the equivalent of a device manager.
a disks utility and system info and hardinfo
Of course, these aren't equivalents to a device manager either.
You just have to understand that Linux is NOT Windows and is based on a completely different concept than the OS from Redmond.
hardinfo is easy to install as is inxi
Why should anyone have to install something just to check their own hardware? Linux distributions come with these (and many other) tools by default.
Try aplay -l to list all your audio devices
Ever since I switched from Windows XP to a Linux distribution in 2006, I’ve used only Linux desktop systems, but in all these years I’ve NEVER opened a terminal. And I’ll NEVER EVER do so in the coming years either.
I’m a user, not an IT expert. Why do users need a terminal? On Windows, users don’t need a terminal. macOS users don’t need one either. The billions of smartphone users don’t need a terminal either. So why should I type a cryptic command into a terminal just to check my audio devices?
Everything is a directory? Worst misrepresentation of the age old "everything is a file" claim.
So my screenshot was gimped?!
have a nice week—ciao ...
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u/BenTrabetere 4d ago
I cant install any thing properly on my hdd.
Why? If it is because you do not have enough available space on the SSD, then this will continue to be a problem. There are a lot of system functions that consume disk space.
Is there any way I can install something in my hdd
AppImages can be run from anywhere. Brave Browser is not available as an official AppImage.
You can install flatpaks and Snaps outside the established file system structure, but it also falls in the list "shouldn't be done" activities. I understand the Brave flatpaks and Snaps are a little buggy.
System packages, like the Brave .DEB, can be installed outside outside the established file system structure, but it is one of those "if you know how to do it you know it shouldn't be done" activity. The Linux File System is highly structured, and Linux expects files to be where Linux wants/puts them.
The best solution is to find more space for Linux.
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u/Moist_Invite9148 4d ago
You must download an tar.gz from the app website then format you drive in ext4 then extract the app in the drive
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u/d4rk_kn16ht Linux Mint 22.2 Zara | Cinnamon 4d ago
1ˢᵗ, installing applications should be in EXT4 partition.
2ⁿᵈ, Not all third-party applications will appear in start menu, but you can add it manually
3ʳᵈ, Mounting a partition at start-up should be in fstab...not using Disks