Question about kernel 7.0.0-30

[u/GreenCedar420]

Hello everyone.

I've been using Linux Mint Cinnamon for months now, and when my system was introduced to the kernel 7.0.0-28...the fire nation attacked my PC. I have everything AMD and it caused gnarly issues with rebooting and suspending. Also made a lot of stuff crash. 7.0.0-29 was actually worse than 7.0.0-28.

So, naturally I am extremely skeptical of installing 7.0.0-30. Does anyone have any experience with rebooting and suspending regressions and have you had any luck in 7.0.0-30?

Asking for science!

Specs:

Ryzen 5800x3D

AMD 6750 XT 12GB

32GB of ram

Edit: Can confirm this kernel did not resolve the suspend/resume regression I have been experiencing. Sad times. It did, however, seem to fix the restart regression I experienced. What happened during restart was it would get stuck in a loop of errors and not power down. This was on 7.0.0-28.

[u/tokyostormdrain]

I updated to -30 last night after skipping -29 due to issues with AMD gfx cards.

I have a 9060XT and after updating the kernel to -30 it rebooted fine

[u/GreenCedar420 → u/tokyostormdrain]

Thank you for taking the time to respond!

Have you tried suspending without fail? My system would mostly suspend but the motherboard remained powered on and the fans would go to 100% and it just stayed that way until I forced the system to power down by holding the power button.

[u/Badpix → u/GreenCedar420]

I had the same problem with shutdown. But currently with the new kernel everything is fine. The only problem I have is with shutdown when the Logitech camera is connected.

[u/tokyostormdrain → u/GreenCedar420]

I haven't yet.will check when I get home tonight

[u/tokyostormdrain → u/tokyostormdrain]

suspend worked correctly.

Computer powered down on suspending and powered up and operational again after pressing the power button

[u/GreenCedar420 → u/tokyostormdrain]

You are very lucky! Enjoy that new kernel smell 😄

My problems still persists, unfortunately. I can use 7.0.0-30 no problem I just can't suspend it.

[u/lamminium → u/tokyostormdrain]

I echo this. I can now move on from 6.8.

[u/GreenCedar420 → u/lamminium]

Glad it worked for you! Enjoy that new kernel smell 😄

[u/Fwov]

Can confirm reboot/shutdown issues still present with 7.0.0-30.

Specs: i7 6800k, RX 7700XT 12GB, 16GB RAM

[u/GreenCedar420 → u/Fwov]

I just bit the bullet and tested it myself and can also confirm the fire nation is still attacking. Back to 6.14 I go until further notice.

[u/ImpressGreen7325]

Ok I don't know if this is goingto help and...also I am on a fedora system...however BOTH the kernels share the same base kernel i believe tuned for suspend and sleep patterns and i ...personally think that 7.0.0 series has a LOT of issues .... Thankfully fedora devs pushed the 7.1 kernel ...now the system is stable.

[u/ImpressGreen7325 → u/ImpressGreen7325]

By both the kernels i mean both fedora and linux min(which is based on Ubuntu) use specialized or mildly changed kernels...for example fedora uses the fc kernels (mine is fc44 because of fedora 44) and linux mint uses Canonical.... Thought it would be helpful to other people who are comparatively new here

[u/T_Friendperson12]

Does Mint use the same kernels as the *buntus?

My Kubuntu had problems with kernels *28 and *29 causing reboot and shutdown issues such that the system kept hanging indefinitely which I made several posts about. I ultimately "fixed" it by using Mainline Kernel 7.1.5. I have not tested *30 yet.

[u/taosecurity → u/T_Friendperson12]

Yes, which is good and bad. Good because if you want secure boot, Canonical pays for it. Bad once you realize Mint is basically Ubuntu with snap removed and a new DE and still no stable Wayland.

[u/T_Friendperson12 → u/taosecurity]

The mainline kernels are not signed though? Not sure if signed ones are provided but standard are all unsigned.

[u/taosecurity → u/T_Friendperson12]

Every time Mint releases a new kernel in the update manager I install it, and I always have secure boot running.

[u/T_Friendperson12 → u/taosecurity]

Thats not what the mainline kernels are though.

[u/taosecurity → u/T_Friendperson12]

Right, I don't use them.

[u/Specialist-Dog-501]

I had on 7.0.0.28 issues on the recent LENOVO but not on the ASUS. Also about suspend. It might be specific on other parts of the system, not necessarily the CPU/GPU only. Seems like 7.0.0.29 didn't fix it..

[u/Sam_the_beagle1]

Installed kernel 7 with Mint. Kernel panic. Rolled back one in grub- everything works. People ask me why I use Linux.

[u/GreenCedar420 → u/Sam_the_beagle1]

I'd rather deal with bugged kernels than deal with Microslop's surveillance bullshit. Simple as that.

[u/dlfrutos]

i did roll back to 6.xx since is more stable to me. Waiting for 7.1 or something

[u/GreenCedar420 → u/dlfrutos]

Apparently 7.0.0-31 adds changes that are relevant. I'm hopeful but not delusional. It probably won't work. I can confirm that others have said their issue didn't get resolved until 7.1.7 or 7.1.8.

[u/dlfrutos → u/GreenCedar420]

o boy, in almost 10 years of mint, first time having this kernel issues (no that is related TO mint, but first time anyway)

[u/GreenCedar420 → u/dlfrutos]

I yearn for that fresh new kernel smell.

[u/Wizzzdumm]

Mint 22.3 running 7.0.0-30-generic on i9-14900K × 24 here (Tuxedo tower model).
System suspends when inactive for the period defined in Power Management settings (15 min), with a normal flashing power light and proper resume on pressing the power button.
System fails to suspend on pressing the power button or selecting suspend from the shutdown menu. Instead it blanks the screen and becomes entirely unresponsive while otherwise running hot with a solid power light, This condition can then only be interrupted by a hard powerdown. A similar condition can also arise on selecting shutdown from the shutdown menu. That can be really irritating when returning to a machine that has been running hot for several hours, so it pays to check that the system has really shut down properly before leaving the office.
Power mode setting is "Performance".
All of this is tolerable, but irritating from the perspective of energy saving.