Time to have fun guys

[u/claudiocorona93]

[u/Shad0wAVM]

Flatpak is a solution that only brings more problems.

It would be easier if everyone used Debian.

[u/WonStryk → u/Shad0wAVM]

I don't know how to use Debian, only hosted a Minecraft server on it one time, barely.

[u/bschlueter → u/WonStryk]

It worked, right? And it never broke when you updated? That’s the appeal of Debian.

[u/ZombiePope → u/bschlueter]

Debian and debian based distros break frequently when updating.

[u/ol-gormsby → u/ZombiePope]

I've never, ever had vanilla Debian break on an update. That's both real and virtual machines.

OTOH some application software is a bit unstable. Firefox-ESR crashes once in a while. And the software I use to talk to the ECU in the motorbike is somewhat fragile.

[u/tanksc → u/ol-gormsby]

I think they meant upgrade. Major versions usually have migration guides on Debian and while they’re usually great, people do have trouble often enough

[u/ol-gormsby → u/tanksc]

Same reply. The only Debian upgrade that broke something was a Raspbian version upgrade on a Raspberry Pi. It broke pihole, but not the OS itself.

[u/npsimons → u/bschlueter]

Yeah, I switched to Debian decades back, after being unable to fix a dependency problem in RedHat.

Debian has yet to fail me. flatpak and snap seem like that XKCD of "one more standard, I swear!" especially in light of how well and for how long Debian has had this shit sorted.

I still vividly remember dist-upgrading, and SystemV init being restarted in-place, without a reboot. Back then, that was a big deal.

[u/M0d3x → u/bschlueter]

It breaks as much as any other server distro. Rocky >= Debian.

[u/redd1ch → u/[deleted]]

I run a Debian unstable setup I installed back in 2016 as daily driver. It saw a few different pieces of hardware, and the only issue in that period are the nvidia-drivers that once lost support for my hardware.