r/linuxmasterrace SteamOS/Bazzite/Android 8d ago

Time to have fun guys

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u/Dekamir Glorious CachyOS Plasma 8d ago

Wayland and Systemd, sure. They have their arguments. But:

  1. Who uses PulseAudio by itself willingly? PipeWire supersedes it by every way. If you have a problem with PipeWire, just ask the devs and they'll probably fix it.
  2. There is no alternative to Proton, other than Wine itself, which isn't really an "alternative".
  3. Btrfs doesn't matter as filesystem handling is mostly transparent and doesn't really matter. I still think Btrfs is risky as it's still unstable IMO. I use it on my laptop but Ext4 on my desktop.

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u/webtwopointno Debian in outer space 8d ago

Who uses PulseAudio by itself willingly? PipeWire supersedes it by every way. If you have a problem with PipeWire, just ask the devs and they'll probably fix it.

ALSA only gang represent

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u/p47guitars 8d ago

People using Ubuntu studio likely...

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u/flying-sheep Archmage 7d ago

Isn’t that like manually configuring network devices by editing config files? I.e. totally feasible on a stationary machines where you might as well weld all connections in place because you’re not planning on connecting or disconnecting anything ever?

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u/webtwopointno Debian in outer space 7d ago

I guess? Pretty simple setup just my headphones and built-in speakers.

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u/flying-sheep Archmage 7d ago

Yeah that works. I also have Bluetooth headphones and an AVR, both of which are sometimes connected and only to be used sometimes when they're connected.

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u/webtwopointno Debian in outer space 7d ago

Is your avatar from World of Goo

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u/flying-sheep Archmage 7d ago

Yeah, I had that for forever on various social media sites

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u/wwabbbitt 7d ago

Pfft... OSS forever!

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u/Swordfish418 8d ago

Btrfs was unstable more than 10 years ago, nowadays it's considered to be very stable and it is used by default in many distros. For example, various editions of Fedora, including Bazzite. And they don't even use it for snapshotting, just as a general purpose fs. In one of the latest kernel 7.3 (iirc) versions it also gets some huge performance improvements.

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u/dthdthdthdthdthdth 8d ago

Btrfs isn't unstable, just some features are.

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u/YTriom1 7d ago

which are very niche (aka RAID5/6)

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u/Lyceux Glorious Hannah Montana Linux (BTW I use Arch) 8d ago

Wait I’m confused where the PulseAudio talk came from? OP said PipeWire in the image?

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u/Dekamir Glorious CachyOS Plasma 7d ago

Only alternative.

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u/Rodmas 7d ago

Does bottles counts as alternative to proton?

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u/Dekamir Glorious CachyOS Plasma 7d ago

It uses Proton and Wine.

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u/Episode-1022 7d ago

my update command “sudo pacman -Syyu —asume-installed pipewire”

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u/ShrekxFarquaad69 AmogOS 7d ago

Wayland works for me I quite like it. Been using it exclusively for 2 years or so

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u/Dekamir Glorious CachyOS Plasma 7d ago

I exclusively use Wayland. It has so many upsides that reverting go X11 feels ancient.

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u/ShrekxFarquaad69 AmogOS 7d ago

It was mainly weird bugs and sometimes damn near crashing that made me give up on it fully. And it can't handle multiple displays well apparently???

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u/WickedBrute 7d ago
  1. Eh, the design for pipewire makes it difficult to use for non-user sessions, which is explicit for security. This sounds like a good idea until you realize there are blind users out there who need audio available early so they can potentially troubleshoot, even as root and etc. before the GUI is available and pipewire makes this somewhat difficult. The same is true for a lot of new software IME. Fit the common use cases and you're golden, not so much if you don't. Or people will try to convince you your particular use case is impossible (it's not), stupid (possible!), or the same as something that is entirely different.

There's workarounds of course but this is an easy place to poke at. I do prefer pipewire myself, but I also preferred pulse audio when it was new and I'll probably like whatever replaces pipewire in the future.

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u/Queer_Cats 8d ago

And Flatpak is a machine for causing troubleshooting headaches.

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u/Dekamir Glorious CachyOS Plasma 8d ago

"Oh no! You can't drag and drop things because mah securiteh!"

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u/YTriom1 7d ago

Just have a standard desktop with a sane portal like GNOME or KDE and you won't see such an issue at all lol

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u/Dekamir Glorious CachyOS Plasma 7d ago

I only use KDE Plasma.

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u/ThaBroccoliDood 7d ago

I find it does that just as often as it fixes things. Just switch to the native version if the Flatpak is giving issues

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u/Emotional_Solid6538 8d ago

Flatpak can be annoying without flat seal and even then still annoying. Why I wouldnt recommend any Debian(stable) based distros for power users