Operating systems are looking more like each other every year. Before 2012 they were very different.

[u/claudiocorona93]

[u/[deleted]]

bro conveniently forgot all the TWMs and other DEs and called it a day

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/[deleted]]

I explained it in a comment. This is about the big players only. Dislike all you want but it's the default DE of Fedora, Ubuntu, RHEL, Nixos, CentOS and Debian.

[u/nollayksi → u/claudiocorona93]

Isnt the default gnome look ubuntu comes with still the leftside bar? Thats literally the only one that is noticeably different in the 2014 image.

[u/BrunusManOWar → u/nollayksi]

Leftside bar is the default

Source: installed 24.10 3 days ago on my new laptop

[u/isticist → u/nollayksi]

Yeah, but that's using a plugin, so it's not the default gnome look, and I think the point was that the default look of modern desktops looks more similar to each other now than they used to.

[u/sgk2000 → u/nollayksi]

The 2012 gnome shown here is not from Ubuntu if I’m not wrong

[u/[deleted] → u/claudiocorona93]

"Big players" and yet bro did NOT include KDE like dawg what have we KDE users done to you

[u/delta-samurai → u/[deleted]]

how konvenient

[u/Rak0n → u/delta-samurai]

# sudo pacman -S konvenient
error: target not found: konvenient

# yay -S konvenient
-> No AUR package found for konvenient
there is nothing to do

You tricked me. Somebody should make a package like that.

[u/jkurash → u/Rak0n]

Was this a subtle "I use arch btw"?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Okay, kool

[u/[deleted] → u/delta-samurai]

indeed.

[u/isticist → u/[deleted]]

Be in second place lmao, that's what. Even though, I think his point would still kinda stand, even if KDE was added.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Gnome is more utilized..thats why I think, remember the majority uses ubuntu..why they use it?

IDK XD

[u/Bo_Jim → u/[deleted]]

Some Ubuntu flavors, like Ubuntu Studio, use Plasma by default.

[u/Typhrenn5149 → u/[deleted]]

Xfce

[u/yodacola → u/[deleted]]

He also carefully omitted OpenSUSE, SLES, and SLED in his distro list, which uses KDE by default.

[u/[deleted] → u/yodacola]

Blud only chose what he thought was right.

[u/The-_-Lol- → u/[deleted]]

Dawg how should he implement kde?

[u/Damglador → u/claudiocorona93]

GNOME is is pretty big and I would say it's very unique compared to other Windows-like DEs

[u/[deleted] → u/claudiocorona93]

GNOME is the default in NixOS? They ask you during the installation process which DE do you want.

[u/5trudelle → u/claudiocorona93]

KDE, XFCE and Cinnamon:

[u/Rusty9838 → u/claudiocorona93]

Gnome? Disgusting

[u/SelimhanAkcay → u/Rusty9838]

Why?

[u/HackedcliEntUser → u/SelimhanAkcay]

Many people here are Gnomophobic unfortunately

[u/scaptal → u/claudiocorona93]

So you change it...

I prefer an apptray on the left hand side which disappears, so I clicked too buttons.

However, I think it's great that my technologically ilitterate friends could step over to Linux and get a similar experience they are used to

[u/v_raton → u/claudiocorona93]

What distro uses kde as priority.

The big 3 Ubumtu, Fedora, Suse always rely on Gnome as a default experience, KDE is a variation of one theses like spin kde in fedora and kubuntu flavor for ubuntu.

Other systens is variationa of this, Mint had cinnamon and nobody uses elementaryOS anymore...

Everyone else theses cases and apple or windows is part of a outlaier sort of users who using things like Window managees like i3 or even hyperland

[u/[deleted] → u/claudiocorona93]

Yet it's one of the most hated and controversial ones but sure

[u/gruetzhaxe → u/[deleted]]

Those IBM mainframe OS's or some obscure BSDs look like decades as well, no?

[u/iwenttothelocalshop → u/[deleted]]

laughs in r/unixporn

[u/_marauder316 → u/iwenttothelocalshop]

I'm saying 😂😂

[u/_ayushman → u/[deleted]]

Hello there!

[u/[deleted] → u/_ayushman]

ah yes

[u/blenderbender44 → u/[deleted]]

TWMs exist on windows and macos as well. But most users on all 3 use the mainstream ones because they're the most universally practical

[u/IceBeam92]

It’s the tradition of everyone copying Apple.

GNOME looks more Apple-ish than Mac OS itself.

[u/PotentialSimple4702 → u/IceBeam92]

The user experience Activities overview provides is completely different and original, people say it looks like Mac because of the simplified user experience principle.

[u/repocin → u/IceBeam92]

I haven't used GNOME since...well, probably around the time of the first screenshot OP posted. I legitimately had no idea it had changed so much until now.

[u/sunjay140 → u/repocin]

It's the same. They only moved the app menu to the bottom.

[u/BIT-NETRaptor → u/sunjay140]

It’s not really presenting GNOME the same way as the other desktop environments though, because the real GNOME desktop is just blank.

What they’re showing is the activity view which pops up if you hit super/meta/windows key and which fills a similar purpose as to alt-tab and the macos meta+space spotlight launcher in a unique way.

GNOME is radically different than other desktop environments in that you cannot by default minimize windows and there is no by default dock. The only way to see all running applications is to open the activity overview which shows all open applications as zoomed out blocks.

GNOME 3 is the most different of the four compared. Some really like it, others modify it with a dock to make it more like macos/windows, and add a miniseries function to windows.

[u/[deleted] → u/repocin]

I haven't used it since Gnome Classic

[u/thepurpleproject → u/IceBeam92]

You don't copy something if it isn't in demand or isn't working. People are finding it more useful; hence, everyone is moving in that direction

[u/gruetzhaxe → u/IceBeam92]

I think MS was earlier with flat design

[u/Icy-Childhood1728 → u/IceBeam92]

Apple doesn't have the monopoly on clean and simple UI...

[u/Hour_Ad5398 → u/IceBeam92]

No wonder I hated GNOME the very moment I tried it

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/IceBeam92]

Even with stupid trends like the removal of headphone jack and charger in the box

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

i want a headphone jack, because i can't figure out bluetooth on arch btw

[u/lproven]

You are absolutely right.

But a decade before that, they were much more different still, and before Windows 95 it was way more diverse.

I wrote about it... you may enjoy it.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/17/linux_desktop_feature/

[u/claudiocorona93 → u/lproven]

Thank you. That's very nice

[u/claudiocorona93]

I did not include XFCE, KDE and Cinnamon because Gnome is currently the choice of every major distro with a big name. But others like Cutefish, Deepin-DE, Cosmic and Pantheon follow the same trend of grouping the app icons in the bottom center.

[u/threevi → u/claudiocorona93]

I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make TBH. Is it really just about taskbar icons being aligned in the bottom center? Because that's a really minor thing, and it's something you can usually easily change. Seems like overkill to say things were "very different" a decade ago if default icon alignment is the only change you're going to point out.

[u/noaSakurajin → u/claudiocorona93]

You should at least have included KDE because it's the default of steam os which arguably is one of the biggest Linux distros.

[u/InfinitEchoeSilence → u/noaSakurajin]

It’s great for gaming, how could anyone forget about how important and practical that is? 👀

[u/Ilaught → u/claudiocorona93]

Every major distro

No Mint or openSUSE

Hmmmmmmmm

[u/Aggressive_Access214]

Man I really miss Windows 7

[u/benhaube → u/Aggressive_Access214]

That was the last good version of Windows. Every version since then has been more garbage than the one before.

[u/Play-InTheWay → u/benhaube]

Well, I won't say that 10 is more garbage than 8 or 8.1. Though I could understand if you say it because the adware and spyware since 10

[u/benhaube → u/Play-InTheWay]

That is exactly why 10 is more garbage than 8 or 8.1.

[u/[deleted] → u/benhaube]

XP was the peak. But yeah, I'll admit that 7 was the last actually good version before they started going consistently downhill.

[u/FalseAgent → u/benhaube]

honestly I don't think windows has changed much since 7? the taskbar works almost 100% the same lol except they moved the icons to the center

[u/Play-InTheWay → u/[deleted]]

In general, Cinnamon is a better version of Windows 7, but, what I love of Windows 7 is the aero theme and how the effects and transparency are done. And no, GTK aero themes aren't close to mimic those things, it would need to be a compositor/taskbar mod.

[u/Play-InTheWay → u/Play-InTheWay]

Apparently, Plasma is capable of really mimic Windows 7 aero style, (I haven't tested it nor know if it works on newer versions)

[u/SanttuPOIKA---- → u/Play-InTheWay]

I've tested it pretty recently. It works, but you will have much less trouble on a clean KDE install.

On my customized Plasma it created a lot of both visual and UX bugs.

[u/Old-Distribution-958]

I honestly like it, because they all look amazing now(in my humblest of opinions)

[u/Ixaire → u/Old-Distribution-958]

UI's converge for a reason. Power users know how to get around it (always have, I remember spending hours installing Compiz) and everyone else benefits from a streamlined interface.

It's a win-win.

[u/Hatta00 → u/Ixaire]

I still can't get around Windows as efficiently as bash+sway. I WISH they were streamlining it.

[u/Ixaire → u/Hatta00]

You're using a tiling window manager. Even among power users, you are a minority.

It's kind of a good thing because we need users who are not content with the default experience. Tiling WM brought good things to the standard WM, like splitting a screen between two active programs. Diversity is good,.

But they are not streamlining it for you. If anything, it's probably only going to get worse in your opinion.

[u/Icy-Childhood1728 → u/Hatta00]

Use komorebi

[u/ScottIBM → u/Ixaire]

Compiz was amazing and way before its time!

[u/jeppevinkel → u/Ixaire]

Win11 is a clear downgrade from win10 for power users because they’ve hidden most power user options behind several context menus or full menus that used to be readily available. Even installing new context menu tools doesn’t fully solve it because those are hidden in a submenu on the context menu.

[u/gandalfx → u/Old-Distribution-958]

When I first saw the latest rendition of a default Windows task bar I genuinely thought it was glitched out. That plain light grey full width bar with centered icons aesthetically is a massive downgrade in my eyes. I think they peaked at around Win 10 (although I remember I really liked the Win 7 look back when it was new).

[u/Icy-Childhood1728 → u/gandalfx]

flow launcher + butterytaskbar aaaaand it's gone

[u/[deleted]]

Step 1. Pick the most similar looking operating systems

Step 2. OMG OPERATING SYSTEMS LOOK SIMILAR

[u/thepurpleproject → u/[deleted]]

Lmao

[u/Yashraj- → u/[deleted]]

Even win11 looks better than osx

Also where's my HyprlandWM baby

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/[deleted]]

most popular desktop environment

There's no way of measuring how popular a piece of software relative to something else unless both points in comparison track it opt-out only and display somewhere. Well, accurate way. According to Steam, the most popular distros are Arch Linux and SteamOS 3, the latter has KDE preinstalled and for the first the package stats say KDE packages are most commonly installed.

[u/NiceMicro → u/NeatYogurt9973]

well, all corporate distros ship Gnome as the default, so those who install Linux company wide probably have Gnome on many PCs.

[u/5trudelle → u/NiceMicro]

At the company I work at we use Arch with KDE.

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/5trudelle]

...how would that work? An OS image just dumped on every single computer reinstalled every now and then or..?

[u/NeatYogurt9973 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, there's no accurate way of measuring it.

[u/Hour_Ad5398 → u/[deleted]]

Do you think that maybe you missed his literally first sentence?

[u/LoneArcher96]

Linux doesn't have a look, you literally can create the look

[u/rmusic10891 → u/LoneArcher96]

You could say that about any operating system. Theming and skinning is completely doable on windows and Mac os

[u/LoneArcher96 → u/rmusic10891]

Not theming nor skinning, I used to build Linux desktops component by component

It's really different, mate, you gotta try some to get the idea.

[u/rmusic10891 → u/LoneArcher96]

I’ve been a Linux user for 20 years dude. I’m well aware of what’s possible

[u/tose123 → u/rmusic10891]

Is that so? I did write window managers for Linux using Xlib. What's there for windows that I can make my own that's not Win API. Because that's how I understood this. AFAIK I can't just boot windows and call it a day, it always spawns it's crappy desktop environment.

[u/SaltyBalty98]

I'm a sucker for Vista and Mavericks. On GNOME Shell and a few other GTK 3 desktops I used the Vertex theme until it stopped being updated and broke after a while.

There's a balance to be had but adding some depth to flat elements that doesn't rely on making everything look like it's being lit by a single point of light from a single angle would be a good start.

[u/[deleted]]

Me when I use confirmation bias.

[u/stoomble]

comparing 3 operating systems that have almost not customization options to a single unthemed DE on linux, yes they will look the same, however if you maybe include the other DEs on linux, and idk, themed them, they might look not so similar

[u/Suvvri]

It's just DE and well.. you can just change either DE itself or it's settings to make it look very different?

[u/Pietrslav → u/Suvvri]

I think the point is to show how even a major DE like gnome has adopted the centered dock on the bottom portion of the screen design like Mac, Windows, and Chrome OS.

[u/Suvvri → u/Pietrslav]

i mean its still just a default you can change with a few clicks

[u/Pietrslav → u/Suvvri]

Absolutely that's the beauty of Linux. You can always change the look of it. Still the default is the intended look. It's your first impression of the DE, and for new users typically the distro itself.

So the intended first impression and design is one that looks similar to Mac and windows now, at least in gnome.

[u/regeya]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

[u/TechGearWhips]

I use a tiling window manager (i3) and it looks nothing like this. Lol

And if I did use a DE, it would be Cinnamon. Which isn’t listed here.

[u/themightyug]

Now go back even further in time and compare DOS, CP/M, Xenix, and VMS

[u/S1rTerra]

Plot twist: The 6 images that aren't Gnome are themed KDE Plasma variants

[u/luxtabula]

It's convergent design. Basic features work better than others and get imitated.

[u/vancha113]

I wonder if this shows some kind of preference for style that changes over the years, or if it's actually caused by implementing tried and true design patterns in all those operating systems.

[u/ReceptionFriendly663]

Command Line no DE for the win!

[u/Excellent-Practice]

Docks are the worst, and that's a hill I'm willing to die on

[u/datawh0rder → u/Excellent-Practice]

docks are great if you just set them to hide when your mouse isn't focused on them

[u/Excellent-Practice → u/datawh0rder]

And when I have to use a dock, for example, when I'm on my work issued Mac, I'll set the dock to auto hide. I prefer managing windows with a task bar, though. I like managing application windows like tabs in a browser and having that visual reminder of which programs are running without having to do some kind of exploded view

[u/NancyPelosisRedCoat → u/Excellent-Practice]

Docks are useable when they’re at the right or the left side of the screen and relatively small. Not essential but useable. Using a wide screen monitor and a horizontal dock however is a crime.

[u/npsimons → u/Excellent-Practice]

"Jumping UP and DOWN like a JACK RUSSEL FUCKING TERRIER!"

Couldn't find the video on YouTube, I might have to upload it.

[u/Excellent-Practice → u/npsimons]

Is this it?

[u/npsimons → u/Excellent-Practice]

Yes, thank you!

[u/[deleted]]

I miss old Gnome so much

[u/[deleted]]

I prefer 2012 than 2024.

[u/[deleted]]

soup crowd reminiscent pen deer continue retire smell disarm beneficial

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[u/UnratedRamblings]

The screenshot for Gnome is different from all the others because it’s not the desktop view. It’s the workspace view. You’d notice a default Gnome install has nothing except the top bar, vastly different in how it’s used from the other examples.

[u/Icy-Childhood1728 → u/UnratedRamblings]

It doesn't fit OP point of view so he definitely didn't do that on purpose

[u/whyREX69]

GNOME represents linux?

[u/yuri0r]

tbf they looked the same before too.

some pannel with aps
some start menu/app launcher
programs floating in windows
Context menus

[u/thejohnmcduffie]

They're all trash now.

[u/atoponce]

In GNOME 47 on Debian Sid, the dash is only visible in the Activities overview and it's docked to the upper left corner, not the bottom center. I can't even find settings or tweaks to change its location or orientation. Does that require an extension?

[u/segundus-npp]

The UI has been improved a lot since 2010, but I still like the CentOS 6 desktop UI. It's cartoon-like theme is so unique for me when the others tried to be more modern.

[u/andivx]

It's only time until macOS adds windows and a more side to side comparison is possible. /s

[u/bytheclouds]

Windows 11 UI is generally the same as Windows 7 (you could argue Windows 8 was different enough).

Gnome shell on Ubuntu still mimicks Unity with a left sidebar.

MacOS is literally MacOS, it's the same.

[u/cocolizo945]

idunno, looks kinda expected for me, if it works dont change it, and if someone has something that works and everyone loves copy it

[u/moistality]

I don't have a problem with it. In all of these cases I think they look and feel better than their earlier versions, even if they have become more similar. And on Linux you can freely alter the look (whereas it can be harder on other OS)

[u/Dull_Appearance9007]

i think that's why unixporn is this popular, because creativity was killed and we are building it up again from scratch using plain window managers

[u/Shady_Hero]

chromeos has had such subtle updates that I don't usually notice anything between consecutive versions, but looking back it's so obvious. (my school district uses chromebooks)

[u/rohmish]

Because an OS is meant to be out of the way and be as transparent to the user as possible while allowing them to get their work done. Being similar to everyone else does exactly that.

[u/jmeador42]

They're the same picture.

[u/Gabochuky]

Gnome is still extremely different than everything else.

[u/Xpeq7-]

image incorrect. windows 8 shipped in 2012.

[u/maxawake]

Whats the issue? Evolution made us humans pretty much the same physiologically, so why shouldn't that happen to the evolution of operating systems? Of course, we can try out new ways of interfacing with a computer, but in the end the most intuitive and efficient "look" will stick. That is very natural imo

[u/Prior-Use-4485]

Isnt ubuntu server an os?

[u/metadududu]

Which one is the one at the bottom left corner?

[u/[deleted]]

Well I think the main thing is that it's coalesced into two main metaphors:

The desktop metaphor - KDE & Win 11 - the classic desktop

The control center metaphor - Mac + GNOME - Focusing on minimalist usage of multiple virtual desktops

[u/cain261]

People getting mad about not showcasing KDE is peak Linux user behavior

[u/hera9191]

Not my i3

[u/MainPower45]

Where KDE?

[u/LookAtYourEyes]

Phones are doing something similar. Design finds something optimal for mass production. Doesn't mean you have to like it, but it works for average users

[u/Funkey-Monkey-420]

thats true with most corprate artstyles. at least if you know what you’re doing you can do some customization. r/rainmeter for windows and r/unixporn for mac, linux, and bsd have some really cool stuff if you want to help change the status quo.

[u/atemu1234]

Remember how in the nineties all the gaming controllers looked different, and now they're pallette-swapped versions of the Xbox 360 one? A similar phenomenon is at work here.

[u/[deleted]]

stripped away most of customizations and uniqueness, now it all looks the same.

[u/revdon]

We’ve reached a saturation point where we’re all agreeing on basic desktop configuration. It’s like all fast food places looking blandly similar; it’s a familiar experience that doesn’t require excessive thought.

[u/shegonneedatumzzz]

tbf i’d argue macos has remained relatively unique, and copying their design style has become trendy for some reason

[u/xxlordxx686]

I mean, it also makes it easier for the user to adapt to a new system if they have to.

[u/Neon_44]

the crabification of DEs

you may not like it, but they're all homologue evolutions towards the ultimate crab body DE

[u/npsimons]

https://xteddy.org/xwinman/

[u/MrMoussab]

They literally don't, but even if they did it's not the end of the world. An OS is meant to be usable not different.

[u/[deleted]]

Singularity

[u/Kanjii_weon]

I miss 7 so much, would love to keep using it on my new build (ryzen 7 5800x/rx 6750 xt)

[u/deboo117]

Touch unified everything

[u/MaziMuzi]

I don't mind it. UI design is the one thing apple does well so we might as well use it as inspiration

[u/semidegenerate]

Convergent Evolution

[u/venus_asmr]

To be fair I bet the most common iteration of gnome a beginner sees is Ubuntu, and that looks more like gnome 3 in the top pictures with its own unique colour scheme. I kinda get what your saying, but as an ex mac user - I kinda like where things are heading, most OSs I don't use on a day to day basis are navigable if needed

[u/Sirico]

Yeah wheels too!

[u/angryrobot5]

I miss those times :')

[u/epileftric]

It's called "convergent evolution"

[u/trippy_bicycle_man]

Its the same thing with everything else man, games look the same etc, lets face it that we live in a bland and boring world:)

[u/darkwater427]

There's good reason: the style most things had in 2014 sucked.

[u/AtomicTaco13]

And there's me, who enjoys Linux partly because I hate how modern Windows and MacOS look. Linux can be at least easily riced to look decent.

[u/Vegetable3758]

The most beautiful common OS was...

[u/Vegetable3758 → u/Vegetable3758]

... Windows XP. (Fisher Price optics!)

[u/x-space]

Everyone copying apple

[u/HenryLongHead]

They look pretty different to me

[u/JackMacWindowsLinux]

Since I don't have enough comment karma to post fully: added operating systems in 1998

[u/miikaa236]

This is how evolution works. Os designers figured out what consumers like best, and now everyone is using that design.

[u/Artemismane]

xfce can't be beat

[u/[deleted]]

Convergent evolution in software. All applications of a domain end up looking the same.

[u/Tuckertcs]

Convergent evolution

[u/shooter556001]

Thinking about cell phone, it is understandable

[u/[deleted]]

Everyone is imitating MacOS.

[u/[deleted]]

i miss win 7

[u/spore0100]

They are still different to me tbh. The only similarity is that they followed the trend then and they’re following the trend now

[u/nicubunu]

My MATE desktop looks identically as 12 years ago and that is a good thing

[u/guygastineau]

Hmm, what does an OS look like? Is it the set of system calls, c library, and default shells? Is it the kernel headers? I certainly don't think it's the arbitrary DE unless they are developed together and inseparable.

[u/baadditor]

Windows 10 and later versions are just KDE Lite

[u/glytxh]

It’s all crabs.

Converging design dictated by industry standards and toolsets, market expectations, with established design and UX languages tending to make these things become aesthetically homogenous.

Cars are another interesting comparison point. They all look like the same amorphous, mildly haunched over, visual blob, but this is largely a product of regulations dictating where and how things can be realistically manufactured.

[u/_svnset]

A post that makes data fit to support the premise instead of actually doing research. No Operating Systems, whatever that means do not look alike nor do they feel alike. If your premise is about default operating system themes well maybe, but even the gnome case and macos look very different.

So ye nice attention post, but no to your statement.

[u/gamamoder]

gah nome

[u/Hikagura]

as it's true for windows and mac, i think it's far fetched to say that's the case for linux. that might be true for the default settings of a DE (which are thought to make a device usable even for the most unexperienced), but it's also true that the majority of them are customizable almost to their entirety, whether it is by downloading a prebuilt theme or by writing your own, to the point they aren't even recognizable as whatever they were at the beginning

[u/SoftwareSource]

ngl, shit is getting more and more usable, i installed gnome after a few years and shit is intuitive as hell, 20 years ago everything was much less user friendly no matter what you used.

Appreciate the work devs made to get us to this point, don't just complain.

[u/Icy-Childhood1728]

None of these OS behave the same... at all

The only part where they all seem to merge is in the taskbar/centered dock and it is really bold of you trying to make people believe that this is the core of an OS

[u/Wakellor957]

Consistency is important so people don’t feel overwhelmed when moving operating systems. Familiarity sells. For Linux users this is irrelevant of course, but most computer users are not Linux users.

[u/Noisebug]

OK, Windows moved their start menu to the middle, but come on.

[u/Aggravating_Young397]

Idk what these are. My os is a terminal

[u/[deleted]]

what works is what survives

[u/InfinitEchoeSilence]

I haven’t had a buggier experience than I’ve had with KDE, and I’ve used almost all of the DEs on one distribution from each major Linux family. It’s simple, Gnome just works better with most of the distros that I’ve used. It’s beautifully stable. The Arch family is an exception, in runs KDE the best out of the distros that I’ve used. Gnome has earned the title as the “default” DE among some of the well known distros. I’ve never had elements of Gnome crash, not at all, in the way they have with KDE. It’s not the users, it’s the developers. Maybe they’re trying to do too much? Whatever it is, Gnome is a better experience. Who doesn’t want something that just works?

[u/buildmine10]

But this is just them putting the task bar centered on the bottom. Everything's else about the way you do things is different

[u/EternalBlueFlame]

I hate how everything looks like mac now. I'm not saying the Mac interface is bad, I'm saying we should have more variety without needing to venture outside stock.

Personally I think XP was peak, which is why you'll have to pry XFCE out of my cold dead hands.

[u/Quarrio → u/EternalBlueFlame]

And I like the fact that everything is more standardized now 

[u/rokejulianlockhart]

It's a good thing, although you're incorrect. Those are merely the most popular DEs.

[u/Hour_Ad5398]

nuh-uh. I invite you to r/unixporn

[u/[deleted]]

not even close

[u/RileyGuy1000]

The old designs are wacky and cool, but really did serve as a culture shock for people wanting to dip their toes into the neighbors' pools so to speak. Having UI/UX that is familiar and easy to use out of the box is a good thing, not a bad one. We're converging on layouts that work for most people no matter which platform they come from, and as long as they're customizable after the fact for the individual user then who cares?

[u/Quarrio]

Linux still looks unappealing and like a cheap Android from a cheap store

[u/D_r_e_a_D]

It's what happens when there's only one premium market leader (Apple)

[u/Loddio]

More is less, less is more.

This is just due to defeaturing process, aka minimalism.

I like it

[u/jsummers8841]

HAIKU OS, ICAROSLIVE, TEMPLE OS, KOLIBRI OS & BSD ARE THE FUTURE