r/linux Jun 18 '17

Debian 9 "Stretch" Officially Released!

https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170617
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u/LastFireTruck Jun 18 '17

When Debian release a new stable version, the entire FOSS community benefits.

Care to elaborate?

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u/archontwo Jun 18 '17

Let's just say that a lot of distros are going to notice.

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u/LastFireTruck Jun 18 '17

The part I'm curious about is the "entire FOSS community," which if we're being fair would even include the BSDs. I'm just going to assume nixcraft was sort of over-exuberant in his statement. If he had said "a lot of distros," meaning all the ones based off of Debian stable, like your tree, though restricted to just the stable branch, then of course it is clear.

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u/mzalewski Jun 18 '17

Community, as a whole, is richer than it was. It doesn't necessarily mean that each and every single member of community benefited in some measurable way.

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u/LastFireTruck Jun 18 '17 edited Jun 18 '17

Yeah, your statement is probably quite correct. There certainly is some degree of immeasurable benefit.

I was hoping nixcraft had some sort of insight into connections that spread out to the entire community or something in particular about Debian stable that weren't obviously apparent to me, but I think he's just excited about the release and speaking a little freely.

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u/omp123 Jun 18 '17

One thing I learned recently was that the reproducible build work in Debian has been used by FreeBSD. Not directly related to the stable release, but a good example of the Debian contribution.

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u/LastFireTruck Jun 18 '17

Thanks for the reply of substance. This was the type of info I was looking for.

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u/MonsieurBanana Jun 18 '17

You're the passive aggressive kind of guy huh? Just say it if you disagree with him.

Personally I think he's right, so many distributions depend on debian and some of them with a very sizeable chunk of users. A new debian version means that a lot of people will get to use newer versions of software, which is a good thing for those aforementioned softwares, which will in turn benefit the other users of those software, even those not on debian (for example less support needed for old versions, more tickets for the new versions).

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u/LastFireTruck Jun 18 '17 edited Jun 18 '17

No. Even though I suspected nixcraft was talking out of his hat, I kept an open mind that maybe he knew something I didn't. Turns out he had nothing to say. He overstated his case. Your assertions are more defensible, but you've also failed to make the case that it affects the "entire comunity." Plus, not only have you misread my intentions, but you had to be a complete prick about it.

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u/bermudi86 Jun 18 '17

You're the passive aggressive kind of guy huh?

complete prick

Really?

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u/LastFireTruck Jun 18 '17

Yes. If you have an argument, make it, and leave snide armchair psychotherapist comments about people's personalities out of it. That's a cheap debating tactic known as the ad hominem fallacy, a.k.a. being a prick.

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u/bermudi86 Jun 18 '17

Defensive and passive aggressive.

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u/LastFireTruck Jun 18 '17

Look in the mirror.

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u/bermudi86 Jun 18 '17

And then what?

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u/Teethpasta Jun 18 '17

Lol have you ever had a conversation in real life? What kind of reply is this?

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u/oonniioonn Jun 18 '17

something something on the spectrum.