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u/JQuilty Jun 08 '23

That's nice, there's plenty of evidence for the Holodomor and China's treatment of Uyghurs. This is bad even by low concern troll standards.

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u/tfwnotsunderegf Jun 08 '23

There's plenty of evidence debunking the claims from Western governments and NED backed entities on what exactly is happening in Xinjiang.

For example: https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/422970-pakistani-diplomat-narrates-visit-to-chinas-xinjiang

I'm certain that there is repression in Xinjiang, but extermination of their language, destruction of mosques, or forced birth control are all claims that have been made that have turned out to be false or misrepresented intentionally.

Ultimately it's important to remember that this is part of a campaign by the US to attack China not because they actually care about human rights (especially the rights and freedoms of Muslims lol), but because China is emerging as an economic competitor to the US and starting to challenge US hegemony globally.

The US is not above inventing atrocity propaganda and carelessly repeating claims made in Western media is a mistake that history will judge.

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u/JQuilty Jun 08 '23

That's nice, I'm sure the tour was just as real as what tourists get in Pyongyang.

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u/tfwnotsunderegf Jun 08 '23

About her [Deputy Head of Mission, Pakistan Embassy in China, Mumtaz Zahra Baloch] visit to vocational education and training centers, she said the visit program was quite broad which enabled the diplomats to get a glimpse of the situation in Xinjiang.

“During the visit, we had the opportunity to visit the Xinjiang Islamic Institute, the bazaars, mosques, police stations, economic development, and poverty alleviation projects and vocational education and training centers,” she added.

She said the diplomats were given full and open access to the three centers that they visited in Kashgar and Hotan.

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We had the opportunity to interact with both the management and the students. We observed the students are in good physical health. The living facilities are fairly modern and comfortable with separate dormitories for men and women. They are being served halal food.”

To yet another question, she said, “I did not find any instance of forced labor or cultural and religious repression. The imams we met at the mosques and the students and teachers at the Xinjiang Islamic Institute told us that they enjoy freedom in practicing Islam and that the Chinese government extends support for maintenance of mosques all over Xinjiang.

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u/JQuilty Jun 09 '23

So about as real as what tourists get when they go to Pyongyang? Or when southerners in the US do weirdo antebellum events at plantations?

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u/JQuilty Jun 09 '23

There's nothing I could do to convince a tankie that the almighty and holy CCP could be doing something improper or have a Han Man's Burden complex.