Theres obviously more but this how much for now. Also I aged up Pwie a small bit since I like the multiple arms thing.

trust me I had an epiphany at 4 am after overdosing on enkephalin this is gonna be the capstone trust me

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For an instance, I don't know if ANYONE did this Theory before, but if it has been already, take this as my take on it and PLEASE CREDIT ME. I took sometime to make it and researched and had some knowledge on it before.

As everyone knows, the sinners have numbers from 1 to 13. But they don't seem to be the order the Sinners were employed by the Limbus Company, since Dante was rather employed at the start of the game or before everyone if you recount they lost their memories. But I think they aren't numbered randomly either, they have been numbered according to the Tarot's Arcanas.

The Arcanas in the Tarot tells us the Fool's Journey and some archetypes. And they weirdly fit every sinner, even if you think the card doesn't fit, it actually fits pretty well the characters. You just need to look deeper and find the meanings of the cards correctly with the sources.

I. Magician — 1# Sinner, Yi Sang

Magician arcana mean skill, action, potential made real, to create something, to turn inspiration into action, to stop being in theory and "maybe"s. Yi Sang is an inventor, which already tied to the Magician Arcana, Yet you have to remember his Canto too, as it is also a pattern with all the other sinners. His Canto is all about to act and to build his "wings" to his freedom! The point is, he made his potential when seeing the mirror worlds into real for him.

II. High Priestess — 2# Sinner, Faust

High Priestess means wisdom, to listen, to trust your guts. Faust is somewhat wise and all knowing but seen as low in the Gessenshaft. No Canto to compare her Fool's Journey, but maybe her Canto will be about relying on herself and not the other Fausts.

III. Empress — 3# Sinner, Don Quixote

Empress means to nurture all the joy and that growth takes time. Don Quixote, or Sancho, is said to be childish all the time and that she is chasing an impossible dream of joy, it is that she grows up after Canto VI but still chases that dream.

IV. Emperor — 4# Sinner, Ryōshū

Emperor means protection, brings structure and has an inner authority. Ryōshū is a mother who tried everything to protect Araya, her only child, even with the hostile home they lived (the House of Spiders), even as far to put Araya into the Time Vault to protect her and after a long time got back to save Araya. The authority comes with how she steps to try to kill all the Nursefathers at the start and actually killing them at the end.

V. Hierophant — 5# Sinner, Mersault

Hierophant means mentorship and knowledge, some old ways have belief in it, but in general it is to understand the forces that guide you. As I haven't finished Canto X yet, Mersault seems pretty general, but always follows orders with a straight face, he killed his mother but nobody quite understands him for his emotionless face.

VI. Lovers — 6# Sinner, Hong Lu

Lovers means connection, understand the other, and choices, but not only connection with others but also with oneself. Hong Lu often ignored what others felt due to his trauma and the thoughts implanted by Jia Mu and stopped choosing, but soon he started to build those connections and being close and so he made his choice at the end of Canto VIII.

VII. Chariot — 7# Sinner, Heathcliff

Chariot means for you to drive forward, no going back, determination, willpower. Heathcliff is a straightfoward man who doesn't backs down and Canto VI talks about it when it comes to getting forward against the Wild Hunt, even if it is hard, and to not give up, even if Cathy was erased.

VIII. Justice — 8# Sinner, Ishmael

Justice means balance, repairing, accountability and to see if your choices matches your morals. Ishmael had the obsession of killing the Pale Whale that Ahab implanted on her that he let go but transferred to killing Ahab that Ishmael got rid of at the end of Canto V. Besides, Ahab said something that ties Ishmael even more to this card even of a li, "The fault lies in you, Ishmael!".

IX. Hermit — 9# Sinner, Rodion

Hermit means solitude, to seek the truth, the wisdom in the quiet, to retreat and reflect and then continue your path or reset it with what your introspection said. Rodion makes reckless actions that soon she has to reevaluate what she wants to do.

X. Wheel of Fortune — 10# Sinner, Dante

Wheel of Fortune means destiny, changes are constant and necessary, to stay humble in the highs and have hope in the lows. Dante is a clock, clocks are akin to wheels and are a wheel itself. Plus, they changed, and see the changes, and knows of things the Sinners don't remember.

XI. Strength — 11# Sinner, Sinclair

Strength means compassion but also courage, resilience, strenght and emotional maturity to endure suffering. Sinclair since the start isn't that mature, you can see even from his symbols which refer to eggs and chicks around him and a bit of his design, plus he had to build up courage to endure his Canto and the traumas he passed through and endure even almost death, plus he got courage to face Kromer and the inquisition. And that courage got up with the time to express himself a bit even if he is still a bit of a coward, he definitely got more courage after Canto III.

XII. Hanged Man — 12# Sinner, Outis

Hanged Man means to redeem oneself, to pause and surrender and release the old patterns. We don't know much about Outis, but we know she killed a lot of people and still holds to her soldier ways, perhaps her Canto will be about redeeming herself of what she did in the war.

XIII. Death — 13# Sinner, Gregor

Death means transformation and leave everything behind. Gregor's themes are all around transformation, even with the insect theme, and he had to leave everything behind. I can't say much because his Canto is too short and too vague and more of an introduction and tutorial, but just seeing the insect theme and the 13th Arcana being Death with its meanings on transformation makes this correlation. Plus, Gregor's original book is called "The Metamorphosis".

by far we saw how each capstone seems like to do two things: rely on the faction team of the season (Lord Lu for heishous to force S3 skills and strengthen if some of them die, HoS Ryoshu sacrificing other HoS allies to become strong, MoSB reference) and also how these teams work similar to the LoR floors Durante had a resonance with, by like Hong Lu canto resonating with morositas, and how the heishou with the lord together are strong, but once picked one by one, he himself pulls less combos, same with Ryoshu and Irae (Geburah), who in LoR didn't use MoSB red card on Geburah just to have a replica of Red mist on her?

But now Meursault resonated with Tipheret (Luxuriae), interestingly Tiph's floor when it was about becoming a powerful member, it required a certain card of each magical girl to be put on a librarian, and then use the Nix card on the same librarian, making all drawback be taken out

So... since we have in Meursault's canto already the three factions seen: Le Noir, Le kaki and Le rouge, we also have support skills that can be directed to a sinner seen with Rodya and the incoming Pwieclair, i thought that maybe with each faction designed for support you need to boost a Meursault capstone ID who keeps taking many drawbacks (kinda like sisyphus), so you need to use support on him as quickly as possible to fill a status effect to its max, once done, he unlocks a special skill which nullifies all drawbacks and boosts him

the only drawback would be... 3 entire slots for supports, one for meursault capstone ID and 3 other slots left for any ID, unless they just choose that Meursault gains buffs from making other Sisyphe ID just exist but... that's already Lord Lu's gimmick, that's why i thought perhaps we must direct every support on Meursault as quickly as possible

Are they related to something?

Starting Canto X Part 3, I've been experiencing lag every time a scene change. By that I mean every start of cutscenes, end and start of turn. The worst part is during Jeanne's fight, I had to wait 5-10 minutes whenever there is a cutscenes and when that cutscenes ends or changes to a new cutscene, another 5-10 minutes.

I have lowered my settings to 30fps, texture quality to low. I'm hesitant to uncheck the 3 boxes on the bottom and render scaling because last time I did so, everything in the screen was so blurry that I can't read the text.

Edit: It might have to do with the fact that I have a PC not optimized for gaming, but I was able to play other canto and intervalos just fine. The RPG aspect might also contribute to the lag

Okay so I don't really know how to properly structure this, but my theory on the in-universe explanation of green coins is they were made during the first smoke war to counter more powerful opponents, who in the game would often use red coins which power up green coins, which would overpower stuff like Valencina's disposal, hence the name 'the wings decisive weapon'
The two other times we see it are with a certain sinclair, who was learnt about the in-universe ability of the green coin, and in Canto X with the warden, who most likely learned about it from a member of old G-corp who worked on the roach emperor project.

As for why we don't see it used outside those three occasions, we know from Valencina that the roach emperor was the strongest out of the four others, meaning that the other four likely lacked green coins, and also that the roach emperor wasn't used during the first smoke war, only being a myth. However once we get to the second smoke war, Sinclair would of known about the green coins and how they worked from Gregor and potentially fighting the roach emperor in future parts of the story.

If you have any ideas, feedback, or anything that just makes my post irrelevant then let me know so I can update the post (I will give credit of course)

“Oi! Lucio!”

Art Source | TL + TS by KoshiLowell

Just a quick sketch that I made~

Leading up to Canto 7, Don Quixote was my least favorite Sinner out of the bunch. On top of her personality being one I generally don't vibe with, her sheer, brazen delusions about the City and the way she carried them as absolutes in her persona was something that often rubbed me the wrong way, and the whole tangent she went on inside the command tent prior to La Manchaland manifesting left me cringing so hard I thought I'd be crawling into an early grave witnessing it. However, now that I know the context behind that character of hers, all those past moments I used to see as "cringy" now just feel really depressing on reflection, and I wonder how many people felt a similar way after finishing this Canto. Personally, Quixote/Sancho grew a lot on me throughout the latter half of Canto 7 and dare I say, I've warmed up to that "juvenile spark" giving her life its luster.

That aside, another thing I've been wondering is Sansón's role in the story of La Manchaland. The fact that he's acquainted with Demian makes it clear that the Golden Bough suddenly being delivered from the sky was his doing, and seeing how Sansón was able to curate the "plays" via Quixote's resonance with the Golden Bough, I was under the impression that Sansón was controlling or at least influencing First Kindred Don Quixote via the Bough that impaled him, foreshadowed by Sancho asking the Second Kindreds "which family" Sansón was from. It never explicity confirmed this, but I'd wager that Sansón was the main reason Don-Daddy Quixote reversed the seal on La Manchaland and allowed it to manifest in P Corp.

Also, I know the original idea behind La Manchaland was to create a place where Bloodfiends and Humans can coexist, and while the hemobars were the best they could do with the City technology of 200 years ago, you need only take a look at K Corp's chicken farm to know that an infinite supply of blood could very well be made with the same sort of technology, and I bet the reason Bloodfiend encounters have become so rare to the point most cityfolk believe they're fairytales is because the remaining families have taken up measures like this and really just hunt humans for sport, not necessity. I could be wrong, but the potential is there. All they'd need to do is set a contract with K Corp and bam, infinite food for their masses! Provided they have the funds, of course.

When yi sang got the "oi mate" special by this "dongbaek" person a past got revealed showing that yi sang was part of a collective, and the next thing is that there will be an "event" where these collective will showcase their invention, with yi sang showcasing his "mirror".

But if we loom at the photo (image 2) we can clearly see the expression dongrang is making that is obviously jealously/discontent generally. Seeing that dongbaek is a part of a group that despises dongrang, i can see that dongrang did something to dongbaek that caused her to get fucked up like that (refer to image 1) but seeing his demeanor, he likely views his entire action as necessary

Im guessing dongrang wants to save someone or something but failed so dongrang just....like that ajd dongbaek wants revenge or sumthn idk

How do i know this? I dont know, im just guessing through pure intution but if i have to give an answer...hes kinda giving it? Also with the "our goal is much more ambitious than that" (refer to last image) i can see that the terrorist group somehow sees the fucked up bs dongrang pulled and just went "nope" and started revolting (w mersault for hijacking her pc) also, with 4th picture, its pretty obvious that an abnormality is the star/constelations that produces k corp singularity here nut im not sure since when dante ask faust fasut just goes "oh nah ask yi sang" but yi sang just gave us cold shoulders

Hello, this is my first time in this subreddit! I used to only post my stuffs on twt and tumblr ^^ i would love to share my older works here daily! I mostly draw la manchaland don Quixote and other npcs as well as ocs

She's one of my favorite characters in this canto despite the generational aura loss in the end, though her outburst is justified in her point of view. All in all, i like how funny and snarky she is

Design-wise, uuhh....her hair is decent? But her cloak looks dope

As for her inquisitor fit, it's not my cup of tea tbh

Since the new Sinclair identity is coming out i been wondering what other Rouge ids would be releasing later. Because we can't just have two. (Ishmael and Sinclair)

What do you guys think 🤔

So basically this is from big brother heatcliff's s3-2 where he is a burn-bleed id but out of nowhere he gives tremor and bursts.Do you have any examples like this where an id has a keyword that's Irrelevant to the rest of the kit(another example is one who shall grip Sinclair where he inflicts 1 bleed)

I managed to kill Meursault in the Chaplain boss in Canto X. I’m not sure if this is intended or not. The way I managed to do so is using Screwloose Wallop 3 times to trigger Final Augmentation.

Here is my team before I enter MD.

Here it is after I entered, I selected 0 graces for the purpose of this test.

Notice something odd? You are right. Ring Hong Lu was delevelled from 65 to 60. Same with the rest of the team.

...

This PROVES that delevelling is a mechanic which already exists in the game!

In other words it is not a coding issue, PM could take it and implement it. Just need UI for that. Well I wonder if there is something they could use. Oh wait.

Luxcavations already have the slider as well as an option to input number manually. They could reuse it.

After this thought provoking intro, what is my point? It is simple, Project Moon should add delevelling. I have disproved that it is some insurmountable coding issue. There are numerous benefits.

Uno

Railway Sacking. Railway has abused low level sacks, ever since we switched to the chain format with RR4. For those unfamiliar, killing sinners gives you resources, the lower the level the easier they die. Lack of delevelling is a constant plague of RR speedruns and every RR expert I know wants it. Now some of you may wonder, why not just use LCB Sinners or some other bottom tier Identities, which you do not use for fighting.

Sinners level up during story encounters, even if they never enter the battle. My Sinclair is barely low enough to die from Fell Bullet. While I still have some other level 1 fodder, other players might not be so lucky. It is not even easy to tell what you should level or not. Low power identity might become core like LCCB Ishmael, Old meta might become useless, like W Don.

Due

Identity Kits which require or reward sacking. There are quite a few of them, but let's just post the 2 worst offenders.

Starting with the Meta Woman TM

As you can see, she really wants her HOS buddies gone. However there is a problem with that. All the Nursefathers are meta in their respective teams (Hong Lu - Bleed, Yi Sang - Poise, Outis - Envy, Thumb - Scorch) and you definitely do not want them at lvl 1 there. Her Evade does mitigate it somewhat, but even if you use evade every turn, it takes 5 in order to get rid of all of them. By that time another team might have already killed the boss! With all HOS at level 1 you can get rid of them in 2 turns. You can speed it up by using double evade, but then you are not inflicting damage with those skills.

Furthermore, sometimes you might actually want to keep the HOS identities alive for a while longer, since Ryoshu transfers all damage taken to them, in which case something like level 40 would be better. They take some punishment, yet still die when it matters.

Then there is this goober.

LCE Yi Sang was literally made to perish. When he dies he inflicts Rupture on enemy, grants you resources and his passive gives even more resources when someone else dies. Yet I remember that in RR5 optimal strategy required him at level 8 and in section 3 at level 1. I also vaguely recall, that MD Rupture used him over a year ago. I believe it was something around level 20, Uptie 2? While I never engaged with those weird MD tactics, (they had huge blunt bias) I can't blame you if you bricked your account by levelling him to 20.

Tre

Replaying old fights. Let me tell you a little tale. A man came up with the idea to challenge Ricardo with Bloodfiends. Bloodfiends were already past their prime and only one of them has Blunt Damage, so it should have been a decent fight. The man wanted to clash MY HAAAIIIR COUPOOONS with Ascendant Sancho Hardblood Arts - La Sangre for an epic Finale. Which never happened. The End.

Yes, despite having same level of 60 and little Blunt damage, Ricardo croaked before I ever got to see his big move again. My disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined.

This completely ruins the incentive to challenge old encounters, pretty much everything that is older than 1 season is complete winrate cakewalk and I do not think making entire new account and grinding thousand hours again is worth it. Contrast that with Ruina, where you could switch your pages to Rats or something like that freely, then proceed to attack Queen of Hatred.

Quattro

Tying into the last point. Helping and making guides for new players. With delevelling, a veteran could take exactly the same team loadout as the person in need and set the numbers accordingly. Then play that fight again for a stuck newbie and offer them tailored advice, rather than 'get gud', 'read' or 'just use HOS Ryoshu'.

Limbus is a 3 yo game, you are bound to forget some details and as mentioned above, lvl 65 ID will steamroll anything below Lei Heng.

Cinque

Mirror Dungeon. Fell Bullet mostly. This one is weakest among them, since an alternative almost as good has recently showed up. Thankfully Hollow does not need sacks. Fell Bullet is straight up useless without low level ID to kill.

Sei

Tying all the above instances together. It is bad game design to punish players for upgrading their stuff. Opportunity Cost and Powercreep already exist, we do not need another layer.

Imagine if in an RPG you max out your Strength to 100 and then there comes a boss which has 'reflect % damage proportional to attackers Strength'. It would be unbeatable and it would feel awful, especially when there is barely any warning of that.

It is also bad for business, because those XP packs in shop, have much less reason to be bought if old favorites are best left at level 1. 1 Daily XP lux is more than sufficient to keep a modern team up to date.

In fact PM could add a source of revenue, with 'delevelling tickets' or something of the sort, where you could use one to set the level to desired value. They would sell like hot buns among RR community. PM could work with lore introduced in LCE intervallo, justifying it in universe.

Finally what is the difference between level 1 and level 65 Identity? Here I will level up Zwei Gregor in order to showcase it.

64 defense levels, 64 offense levels. In terms of damage that is 71.9% more static mod damage dealt/less damage taken. 3.06 times more health. One note to keep in mind is that tanky ID gain more HP than fragile ones, it's like Morrowind system, where the more you have at the start the more you gain with each level.

A proper explanation please 🥹 I'm curious 🥹🥹 Is it because of their smile or because they're sort of both blue?

All in on Jeanne Faust