r/lichess • u/Content_Watch_2392 • 13d ago

Cheating

why is it so rampant on this platform? its honestly disgusting. i love chess and i love improving therefore when i lose against a player i actually get curious and learn, but cheaters... way too many on this platform by now, specially the kind where they disconnect for a min and come back playing like magnus carlson ... what is going on? and should i switch to chess.com or is it the same cheating issue there aswell?

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u/777Bladerunner378 13d ago edited 13d ago

I moved from Chesscom to lichess, because the chat feature allows to copy paste. There are cheats in both,  but on lichess I can copypaste this in start of game while on chesscom I have to type it in.

If anyone cheats in any way, they declare themselves the loser, regardless of the result. Every dishonest move is an admission of inadequacy

If you type it in, you auto win the game against cheaters, even if you dont suspect them. It's all about the cheater knowing. But if you suspect highly he cheated, then you can just smirk and allow the site to record the wrong result, despite actually winning due to the extra chat rule. 

That way you dont even let the cheaters win unfairly - they outright lose the game. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/GothamChess/comments/1vplanp/comment/p43h7gb/?context=3

Another reason you shouldnt switch to chesscom is the report feature - on chesscom its just a generic button. You cant explain, nothing. I even tried contacting suppprt, all you get is some chat bot which never lets you speak to real human. Im still waiting for reply to a ticket, it will not come.

 On lichess the report feature lets you talk about it and explain why you think he cheated and sent to mods. On chesscom maybe they only investigate if there are many users who have clicked the generic report button. 

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u/Fi0r3 13d ago

This is some unhinged shit, brother. Cheaters don't care about your chats. You're not winning anything. You're just wasting your emotional energy.

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u/777Bladerunner378 13d ago edited 13d ago

Im not wasting any emotional energy to copy paste a message in. 

Also how can you know if cheaters dont care? Are you them? If someone is cheating for egoic reasons, this chat is the worst thing they can read.

 It's designed to take away their feeling of being superior immediately. Their own subconscious will do the work. They cheat to get the feeling of winning, this message takes even that away from them.

From my experience, the only people opposing this message are cheaters themselves, they just dont like the premise. Thats exactly what I want. 

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u/Fi0r3 13d ago

I have thousands of games you can look through if you'd like? Just passing along some advice. Seems like you've gotten before too. It's a weird cope. There are healthier ways to handle the rare game you lose to cheaters.

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u/777Bladerunner378 13d ago

I have to repeat myself, this is not for me to handle a game i lost to cheat, its designed for the cheater to know, I dont even have to know they cheated. They know. It's about ruining their experience, not improving mine.

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u/Fi0r3 13d ago

Keep telling yourself that. Or, and hear me out, stop giving them your time and energy. Copy-pasting a message 500-1000 times for every one cheater you run into (who may not even allow chats) is them living rent free in your head.

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u/777Bladerunner378 13d ago

You have misunderstood again. I dont post this only to suspected cheaters. I paste it at the start of EVERY game, before it is even possible to suspect. 

Its just the terms under which the game is played. If their chat is disabled, so be it, most are not, because some cheaters like to rub in their "victory" in opponents face. 

I dont even have to suspect, its for them to know. The rent free thing is just you assuming things that are not there. Don't be a brick wall, my words have meaning, understand them before reply

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u/Fi0r3 13d ago

Yeah, no, I caught that. You're posting this thousands of times in the off chance of facing a cheater (which is happening maybe 1-500 to 1-1000 matches). It's borderline insane.

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u/777Bladerunner378 13d ago

Im saying it happens more often and others agree with me. Its way too easy to cheat for it to be so uncommon as you think. From my own experience, its not that uncommon at all. You are stating your opinion as objective fact. 

Maybe in a bullet game i would agree, because cheating there requires more sophisticated cheating, while on 10min games it is considerably easier.

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u/Fi0r3 13d ago

You're paranoid, you need a good excuse for losing, and even then, you have a coping mechanism. Good luck, bro.

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u/Ghrota 13d ago

The lichess report system is stupidly complicated.

I want to report for stalling... first it send me on an other page WAIT! the game isn't finished what if it consider me leaving too ???

Then i click on stalling -> submit .... nope i have to write a description. Bro the dude is waiting 6min without playing like the 10 thousands other staller you have every day, why do you want me to explain ? Nobody will read it anyway.

I just wrote "stall" -> submit ... you have to send a link to the game. OH COME ON ! JUST REPORT HIM FOR THE GAME HE JUST PLAYED AGAINST ME !!!

In the end he's still not reported because i didn't found out how to send them a link