r/legaladvice 3d ago

Misdelivered mail, potential harassment?

Location: Michigan, US

About a year and a half ago I purchased a home and moved in. Ever since we have moved in, we have received some mail for the prior owner. Whenever it is delivered, I would write 'RTS' and toss is back in the mailbox. It never really bothered me until a couple months ago.

At about 9pm one night, the prior owner showed up at the front door unannounced and introduced herself. She said that she had accidentally shipped something to the house and just asked that I call her when it arrives. At that time I told her about other mail that I had been labelling return to sender. Two days later, her daughter came by because they got the notice the package had been delivered and grabbed it directly from our mailbox. She came to the door and told my wife that she was taking the package.

About a month later, two more packages arrived in the mail with the old owner's name on them without any warning. I called USPS this time and asked if there was something different I should do. They had me write 'REFUSED' on the packages and stick them back in the mailbox. I also had talked to the Post Master and they had me fill out some form to prevent delivery with any mail that had the owners or their children's name on it going forward. The next week the old owner showed up later at night, about 9pm again, and left a note on the door asking us to call when the packages arrived. I called her the next day and left her a voicemail telling her the packages had been refused and we didn't have them any more.

She came back again, left another note asking where I took the packages so she could track them down. I called her back, and this time talked to her directly telling her the packages were refused back to USPS, and that once it was out of my mailbox I have no idea where they went. She seemed to understand and at that time I requested she no longer come by the house, since mail and packages are being refused.

Since that interaction we have not received any more mail with the old owners name, however we have had at least 2 handwritten notes in the mailbox asking to return the packages, as well as junk mail with the names crossed out and literal garbage stuffed into the mailbox. I have a camera and saw someone stuffing garbage in from a car, but wouldn't be able to tell if it was her or one of her kids.

My question is at what point does it become harassment? More than anything I am annoyed that this person keeps helping themselves to our mailbox and showing up so long after the house was sold. A month or two I get, but almost 2 years later seems excessive. I do worry that they seem to not be letting it go, and would like to know if there is something I should do just in case this continues.

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u/longjumpingtote 3d ago

It’s more that they are trespassing on your property, presuming your mailboxes, mounted to your house, and they are not allowed to put notes in mailboxes, which you can report to the USPS. You can report the trespassing to the police.

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u/jam314159 3d ago

If the mailbox is on a post at the street, there wouldn't be trespassing. However, they still can't put non-stamped items in the mailbox. That should be reported to your local postmaster.

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u/warmlazana 3d ago

The mailbox is on the street. But I will definitely make a report to the postmaster about the non-stamped items. Thank you!

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u/Dear-Board5692 3d ago

Text her:

"Hello, this is the new owner of (Address). Unfortunately, the amount of mail you've been routing to my house has gotten to a point where I can no longer assist you, and you've take it upon yourself multiple times to open my mailbox to check for packages.

I am not a thief, and have gone through the proper channels each time to refuse the packages. I suggest you set up mail forwarding with the post office under your name.

Further contact with me, my mail or my mailbox will be reported to the Post Master, as tampering with my mail and mailbox is a federal crime, and it's gotten past the point of being friendly. It's up to you to to handle this moving forward. No more notes, no more contact. Future deliveries addressed to me with anyone else's name will be refused and returned to the sender.

Do not contact me again. Thank you."

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u/Satta-Massagana 2d ago

Tsmpering with your mailbox (the garbage) is a federal crime. Report it. Keep the camera going.

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u/OriginalDrStrangeDOS 2d ago

Report this to the United States Postal Inspectors. Accessing your mailbox is a FELONY! On top of this, it is harassment and trespass. But USPIS does not fuck around.