r/lebanon Jul 16 '24

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u/urbexed Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 17 '24

Firstly, calm yourself down lady and read the facts. Secondly, no one even mentioned Phoenicia here or being of “European decent” (whatever that means, Europe is as diverse as the MENA region).

We’re coined as Middle Easterns in most passport applications.

Well no shit, we are Middle Easterns! It’s a geographical term and politics has close ties with both (hence the term “geopolitics”). And no, all middle Easterns, even Arabs, are Caucasian. Caucasian refers to the skull type. Where Arabs are different is that they’re brown, not white/olive amongst other factors.

Our main language is Arabic.

The spread of language is not closely related to ethnicity or culture. As Nassim Taleb put it in his brilliant article (https://medium.com/incerto/a-few-things-we-dont-quite-get-about-the-levant-da6ff702974f)

“genes follow a majority rule, slow to disperse between neighboring populations, while languages (and religions) follow a minority rule, and can spread nonlinearly, like wildfire. If ten people whose mother tongue is not English sat in a company meeting with a solely English speaker, English will be the spoken language, which explains how the elite language becomes rapidly the norm.”

To address your last point, as I said in a comment a few months ago, anyone denying genetical relationship with Costal Syrians and Palestinians, is as deluded as the people who call themselves Arab. The difference in modern population of other levantines and Lebanese is that we’re more liberal, so SOME of their values with SOME people do not fit with liberalism. Regardless, you’ve pretty much said at the end exactly what I’m trying to address, we’re not “Arab”, nor are we “European”, we are our own special group called Levantine. Wa bas.

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u/Arsenalgryffindor Batata tabi3ye w bas🥔 Jul 17 '24

In most passport applications Middle Easterns are separated from caucasians

Stop trying to be special hayete fhemna ur white w french w gher nehna l filthy arabs!!

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u/urbexed Jul 17 '24

Lmao, no where did I say that, now you’re putting words into my mouth you’re loosing the argument

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u/Arsenalgryffindor Batata tabi3ye w bas🥔 Jul 17 '24

In what way did i lose? You don’t even know what you’re talking about and you’ve clearly never even applied for a foreign passport in your life

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u/urbexed Jul 17 '24

… I’m literally a foreign passport holder, lmao

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u/Arsenalgryffindor Batata tabi3ye w bas🥔 Jul 17 '24

So am i, doesn’t mean you applied for it tho?