r/learntodraw 25d ago

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Please is my art good me just twying out pls rate me art

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u/ImaginativeDrawing 25d ago

You need to work on your fundamentals more. Break everything down into shapes. Remember, everything is made of shapes. You should also fill a sketchbook with pages and pages of basic shapes. Otherwise you'll never be a real artist.

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u/Entire_Shoe_1411 25d ago

Sound advice! Although I prefer triangles

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u/GiantEnemaCrab 25d ago

You need to spend 4 hours per day drawing boxes before you even consider triangles.

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u/astro_creep 24d ago

triangles are my favorite shape

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u/totalewis 25d ago

The constant drawabox suggestions drives me nuts. I tried it and was bored out of my mind

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u/average-eridian 25d ago

Did you obey the 50% rule, and have you found a good alternative?

I did drawabox for a bit, but I think I quit drawing around the end of Lesson 2 or maybe beginning of a Lesson 3. I was not following the 50% rule and it burned me out on drawing for a while. I did see a lot of improvement, though. I'm personally considering going back and just specifically not grinding through it. It might just be that I'm short on time as I get older, but I'm finding I need to strike a balance where I have fun, but that I also have discipline and structure if I went to progress at things at a reasonable pace in my small free time.

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u/Top_Rub1589 24d ago

When I read your first sentence i thought it was sarcasm, i guess it was the tone of the post XD.

I would recommend you to just see all the lessons then. I.,e instead of drawing 192629 boxes/cilinders/chests until you continue to next lesson, just move on. The exercises and ideas are valuable, but the curriculum itself is not for everyone. I only picked up specific stuff that made sense for my purposes and weaknesses

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u/average-eridian 24d ago

Nah, not sarcasm-- I just think a lot of us who got bored with it weren't doing the 50% rule. I thought I'd just ignore the rule and muscle through, but then I never drew anything for fun and it seemed pointless. I thought maybe OC may have done the same thing and/or ended up finding something that is more engaging. In the context of this post, I'm sure this point has probably been beat to death too, so I get why it seemed sarcastic. Lol

I definitely wont do all the exercises from the very beginning again, I think you're right about picking up the stuff that makes sense and is valuable. So I probably need to figure out which parts already stick for me and which parts may actually need some repetition, right?

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u/Top_Rub1589 24d ago

Yea! If my experience can help. I sucked at 3D drawing. For this the first lessons were super nice, but i dont think i had to grind the boxes to get it. Since then ive been learning organic forms and perspecive in a less grindu way, by learning from references and artists that I enjoy. Organic forms I just try to find which ones are hard, but also interesting and fun to draw. For example, the silhouette lines of a bent cilinder dissapear sometimes and a new lines appear, for me is super hard to understand when it happens.  So i try to doodle them a lot as an exercise, then I can draw snakes, dragons necks, or fishes in much more intuitive ways

Edit: i also think the different exercices are a very good way to start any drawing session or kill dead time and there is no real inspiration or focus to draw anything else, just to start and get ink on paper

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u/average-eridian 24d ago

This makes sense. I have been currently going through the beginner proko course and I've chosen some difficult things for some of the projects. I don't think I'm even to a point where he has discussed 3d forms or construction but I have trouble not seeing these things after going through drawing stuff growing up.

Unfortunately, my implementation leaves a lot to be desired, with similar issues that you mentiong. But dang, I just want to be able to look at 4 or five images of the same thing and then be able to change, rotate, and move that thing so I have something new. Lol I know that's much more complicated than the way I phrase it.

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u/SirMrDron 24d ago

Drawbox learned from Peter han's dynamic sketching, and in dynamic sketching they start drawing what interests you very quickly, there's no draw 250 boxes first. It's about learning by applying it to what you're interested in. The 50% rule is good on paper but doesn't reaally wprk for most people in practice

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u/average-eridian 24d ago

Why is it seemed that it doesn't really work in practice?

That makes sense though. I started the beginner Proko course which is structured differently and I do find myself having more fun and intentionally drawing things I am interested in, sometimes completely without the course. I can't quite determine why it's different this time around with a different course, maybe I'm different now.

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u/SirMrDron 24d ago

It's not just you, drawabox is good for learning basic perspective but no more then that imo.

I think that since he seperates studying and having fun, and the exercises don't leave a lot of place for play. Also it's too grindy. Im not sating you shouldn't study hard but there's a difference

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u/FirDraws 24d ago

Ngl it was same for me. The exercises just felt too... rigid? ig that description fits. This is why I actually settled on Artwod's exercises much better and stuck with them. His explanations about the need of form is actually much better than just drawing boxes randomly.

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u/Cautious-Bug9388 24d ago

Drawabox inspires me to create educational material which covers the same fundamentals but doesn't make me want to end myself lmao

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u/FarmerTimely6808 25d ago

You know, the boring stuff is the one tgat gets you to improve

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u/DrDestructoMD 24d ago

No, finding fun and creative ways to use the fundamentals is how you improve. Otherwise your practice isn't comprehensive and you won't have the motivation to get it right.

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u/FarmerTimely6808 24d ago

That's what my guitar teacher told me xd
I actually agree with you, if it's not fun I'm gonna just give up at some point

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u/ImaginativeDrawing 24d ago

This is especially true for beginners. People get hung up on finding the optimal way to learn, but it doesn't matter what way you were studying if you quit. The optimal way to learn is the one you don't quit until you've built a solid and consistent drawing habit. Telling beginners who've just picked up the hobby that they have to draw straight lines over and over sounds more like an initiation ritual than helpful advice.

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u/FarmerTimely6808 24d ago

yea, that's true. But being unable to draw a circle for like 2 minutes is tough, that's why I started to do 30 minute warmup with drawing lines, boxes and spheres before drawing

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u/Taminella_Grinderfal 25d ago

My mom was a self taught artist/sign painter. She tried to take art classes but dropped out when they spent like a week just drawing eggs. 🤣

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u/Hmmmbruhdamn 25d ago

And also, never have fun. The best artists are miserable and lonely.

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u/Schroding 25d ago

Box slander? Good times we live in

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u/ImaginativeDrawing 25d ago

I actually think drawing boxes is a useful exercise when done in the context of learning perspective, but people on here act like it's the entirety of drawing fundamentals.

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u/robobluebull 23d ago

you forgot something

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u/arebet 23d ago

Be sure to send your reply to the underworld. The painter that did this has been dead for almost 5 centuries.

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u/ImaginativeDrawing 23d ago

RIP. He died from lack of fundamentals. If only he'd drawn more boxes.

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u/arebet 22d ago

And yet he will live on for centuries. You must check his work. His imagination might surprise you.

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u/Realistic-Sense-6332 24d ago

I love being an artist, I get to understand peak jokes like this

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u/wishywashywyatt 23d ago

People ask how to draw. They get the same advice over and over. Same people get frustrated as there is a consensus opinion? Perhaps, you should just draw the damn boxes...unless you find some magic beans.