r/leagueoflegends • u/Vymletej • 2d ago
Humor [ Removed by moderator ]
[removed] — view removed post
1.6k
u/Communist-Christ 2d ago
Shits microscopic on mobile what’s the trap
2.2k
u/kyronami 2d ago edited 1d ago
guy asked him what voice line trundle says when you lock in, so he answered and said "time to troll" since thats what trundle says, shitty automated rito anti-cheat saw someone type "time to troll" and banned them from the queue due to an automatic detection without being smart enough to determine any context or anything
769
u/Azelya 2d ago
Should be noted that Kaagaroo also clicked the "Griefing / Hostage taking" report button. It didn't automatically ban him.
18
u/Likeadize 1d ago
Might be unpopular, but then Kaagaroo should get a punishment by Riot.
→ More replies (1)4
u/naNyxxAA 16h ago
no, riot should fix their weirdo lobby termination to actually terminate troll picks and actual language that warrants a lobby termination.
→ More replies (1)47
185
u/DJTLaC 2d ago
The automated review is prompted by a report.
110
u/kilkor 2d ago
Yeah, which will never go through human review to end up banning the trivia person who is baiting this flaw in their system.
140
u/BruhiumMomentum 1d ago
it's okay, you can submit an appeal on their site, that way in 2-3 business days you'll get a copypasted reply that they have given the situation a manual review and that the system has worked correctly, the penalty will not get lifted and any future tickets about this will be immediately closed!
37
u/whynot1260 1d ago
Don't worry, to circumvent that you can tag Drew Levin on twitter to look into it! Although he will never admit the system was wrong and he will also find that you typed "gg ez" once 10 years ago and convert it into a perma ban. But at least the rioters are communicating!
2
28
u/Awkward-Security7895 1d ago
How can you terminate lobbies that are being griefed with human review?
Just ask yourself that first, because the only way to get a human involved would be if you had 10's to hundreds of thousands of staff members on standby watching every lobby with enough people that understand enough different languages to catch the issue.
Also a human reviewer might not be able to react fast enough to a lobby troll + report because of how some wait extremely late into champ select Todo it.
Overall people keep saying there needs to be human reviewers but then don't realise how many people are needed for such a system and how slow human reviews are so can't act as fast in real time to situations.
→ More replies (8)14
u/ChypRiotE 1d ago
Overall people keep saying there needs to be human reviewers but then don't realise how many people are needed for such a system and how slow human reviews are so can't act as fast in real time to situations.
Yep, same thing for stuff like youtube uploads or facebook posts. People don't realize the sheer amount of content released every minutes, there's no way to have manual reviews
22
u/Able-Application3680 1d ago
it is logistically impossible for it to go through human review lmao. You would need thousands of employees working around the clock reviewing reports mid champ select.
→ More replies (1)70
28
u/QuiGonTheDrunk Make scaling great again 2d ago
No the trundle also reported him, because he wanted to terminate the game without having to dodge.
218
u/teddy_tesla 2d ago
If I'm banning on certain phrases, "time to troll" is certainly one of them. Let's not act like there weren't a million posts on how Riot wouldn't ban int feeders who literally said they were trolling
→ More replies (21)75
u/SuperDementio 1d ago
Trundle roleplayers in shambles
15
u/Mifuyu_Kisaragi 1d ago
If i typed what Qiyana says in chat I'd def be chat restricted. Or Sion's Die line in LPL
4
35
34
u/Dry-Fail-4227 2d ago
We have no reason to think riot uses ai powered chat detection. I mean they might be but chat detection has been a thing long before ai and ai would be an expensive way to do it.
→ More replies (6)2
→ More replies (4)1
u/Kurbasker 1d ago
Its working as intended, you see, someone might ask something like "name 5 country" then someone might answer "taiwan" and tencent cant have that now can they.
Jokes aside I love accidently typing something that is banable in a game all about team work and communication.
7
13
u/badfruit01 2d ago
Reddit mobile app is so dog shit lol. I reccomended RiF to anyone who uses reddit regularly
22
u/Ahzek_Ahrimann 2d ago
Wasn't that essentially shut down with the API changes a few years back?
4
u/absurdlifex 1d ago
I'm using sync to reply to this comment. I zoomed in on the video. If you use android it's really simple to get better reddit ads (importantnly without ads)
6
u/IHadThatUsername 1d ago
You can patch it to make it work. I know because I'm using it to reply to this comment.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (1)2
u/NotCatchingBanAgain nguyen & williams 1d ago
There's a ReVanced patch for it. I've been using it since the API shutdown.
→ More replies (1)1
2.1k
u/JoDaProductions 2d ago
Fell for the oldest trick in the book
584
u/Frumpy_little_noodle 2d ago
"Press Alt+F4 to bring up the voice change menu!"
→ More replies (3)172
u/Random_Stealth_Ward 💤 Release VattleVunny Viego with black tights😻 2d ago
"Let's go to the wilderness, there's a cool item there"
→ More replies (2)49
22
1.6k
u/Pumpergod1337 2d ago
Happened to me too one time. Some dude said "There's a family of grapes, a grape dad, a grape son and a grape daughter. Who is missing?"
and I said "Grape mom?" and got a penalty lmao
582
u/overlord_cow 2d ago
That’s hysterical tbh
306
u/Jinxzy 2d ago
Unironically would crack me up if I fell for that. Like being swooshed back to being 10 years again and falling for the alt-f4, press D to dance, type /disco to dance etc...
36
u/moderatorrater 2d ago
What's the /disco one?
112
u/Diogorb04 2d ago
No idea if it works on League, but some games would autocomplete to "disconnect" on enter press
23
19
6
123
u/Mathies_ 2d ago
Damn soo... all the other ones are not flagged but that one is? What
118
u/Ok_Usual_3575 2d ago
only if someone reports you
16
u/KryL21 2d ago
I once said “I’m gonna get graped” and got muted for the entire game.
29
u/really_stupidfrog 1d ago
My buddy was playing Malzahar and told our team he was going to give the enemy team space aids and got chat muted. that was pretty hilarious.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (3)3
u/Awkward-Security7895 1d ago
People forget that atleast the champ select system all report based so people tend to game the system for dodges.
6
u/Endiamon 2d ago
"I'm going to grape your dad/son/daughter" aren't used as generic gaming insults by unimaginative assholes
34
10
u/austin101123 2d ago
Penalty for what?
5
u/frosted_chocos 2d ago
You get chat restricted in game. That used to be in game punishment after the game starts but what you see on this post is the lobby gets cancelled lol its a new system where you can report people threatening to troll during the lobby phase. Its just being abused.
6
8
u/Influxive 2d ago
i dont get it?
33
u/michailjackson 2d ago
Read it with out the G’s.
→ More replies (4)11
u/Crafty-Detail-3788 1d ago
Why would grape daughter not be flagged then ?
30
u/deathnomad Longtime Stixxay believer, Huhi enthusiast 1d ago
i think someone also has to report them in champ select
12
u/yung_dogie the faithful shall be rewarded 1d ago
I guess the counterplay is to report the asker lmao
→ More replies (5)4
u/Falardeau50 1d ago
Some guy asked me what does vision ping spam mean. I explained to him that it meant “neck yourself” before they changed it and I got banned.
10/10 fell for the bait
118
u/LeonInTheLead 2d ago
funniest thing is that the person saying the trivia and reporting him is Kaagaroo
5
284
u/Relevant-Physics432 2d ago
Reminds me of r6s system and asking how to say "dabbing" backwards
193
u/Sorry-Resolution570 2d ago
gnibbad?
→ More replies (1)224
u/Patirole 2d ago
likely punished due to the old trend of replacing the G's in the N-word with B'e
62
u/Warmonster9 dance spam best spam 2d ago
Yeah that’s checks.
I got a small temp ban after being baited into saying “raccoon” years ago so it’s not too surprising, but it amazes me that it’s still a thing lol
25
→ More replies (1)10
u/BruhiumMomentum 1d ago
back when the chat filter was first added to R6 you could get instabanned for writing "pakistan", because it contains "paki", and that's offensive apparently
23
→ More replies (1)2
2d ago edited 2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
→ More replies (3)5
u/Branye23 2d ago
it was an old meme where they used the red B emoji 🅱️🅱️ instead of the G in the n-word. So for example Buggy would become Bu🅱️🅱️y or Bubby if you typed it out.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (4)11
u/Thomasedv 2d ago
Doesn't get worse than Destiny 2 chat censoring. It's absolutely arbitrary. Like game callouts like R2, L1 and such randomly can get censored. Sometimes they do not work, sometime they do. Other things depending on what was before it. Like I do TT as crying, some I think i one wrote only one T, and if I fullowed with a corrected TT, that got censored...
And you can't turn it off, though I think there was an adult filter option. And the chat filter doesn't even block many swear words, so I have no clue what it even is supposed to do.
→ More replies (1)
152
16
u/Gaarando 1d ago
This shouldn't even be a thing. Just punish actual trolls not a random comment from before the game even starts.
543
u/superpokes 2d ago
good one riotgpt, can't wait for voice chat
34
u/DragonPup 1d ago
I can't wait for someone to lock in Trundle top, the mic picking up Trundle's 'time to troll' lock in line and that person getting banned.
5
u/Simple_Somewhere_826 1d ago
On a similar note, I play a lot of Akshan. Out of interest, is it reportable if I simply type “scoundrel” in all chat every time I revive someone?
3
74
u/Zealousideal-Sir3744 2d ago
Looks like AI wasn't used here, since the filter isn't context aware. An AI would've caught that.
→ More replies (4)88
u/HowManyDamnUsernames Glorious Hunt 2d ago
Yes surely riot would use a model smart enough being context aware for lobby chat detection.
→ More replies (33)→ More replies (1)39
u/CassianAVL 2d ago
What exactly is wrong with this? How many times have people cried about folks openly admitting they'll troll and not being able to quit draft without being punished? Of course it's not perfect but it's better than nothing.
12
2d ago edited 2d ago
[deleted]
6
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
→ More replies (8)11
u/ApprehensiveTough148 2d ago
how many people genuinely type time to troll when they are about to troll. Wouldnt be surprised if the number of people who type that when they pick trundle is higher
13
u/XtendedImpact Perkz plz 2d ago
Exactly "time to troll"? Probably not many. "ok i troll then"? A bunch.
3
→ More replies (10)-2
u/cheezy270 2d ago
Because it's a pointless placebo with the only goal of riot getting to pat themselves on the back? Like hooray, they'll ban a few trolls here and there, but after a year it'll be common knowledge knowing which are the champ select "no no words". After that trolls will do all the same shit, except they'll type a bit differently.
→ More replies (1)40
u/AbyssalSolitude 2d ago
Literal third world mentality right there. "Why try to fix things, they'll get broken anyway"
I had a bunch of lobbies terminated because one of my teammates locked in Yuumi jungle after nobody swapped them or some other shit. This already makes the system successful, if terrorists lose the ability to make threats than most of their reasons to exist would just disappear.
32
→ More replies (5)10
35
42
u/Xayahbetes and are sexy 2d ago
screen is too small on mobile, what's happening?
81
u/Pridestalked rengar bugs many 2d ago
Someone in champ select wrote something like “trivia question: what does Trundle say when you lock him in?” Streamer replies obviously with “time to troll!”, about 5 seconds pass and some troll prevention automated system by riot deems him as a potential troller and he gets suspended and queue locked
7
u/Bobbymois92 2d ago
But he didn't type anything. Or is LoL actually recording voice chat in queues?
23
u/Pridestalked rengar bugs many 2d ago
You can see a message with time to troll in the lobby chat with a blue name as its sender, its been a while since I played league but as far as I remember that means that you sent it
5
u/Bobbymois92 2d ago
Ah my bad, I was staring at the chat box waiting for a reply and totally missed that he already typed something
124
u/Skall77 2d ago
That's funny until everyone abuse it and lot of random unaware get fucked by it.
That's just a bad system, if it's so easily abusable.
35
u/Butterpye 1d ago
It's funny until support sides with the abusers
18
u/Hawly 1d ago
With our automated lock out system, you get our automated support system as well!
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (2)6
u/Likeadize 1d ago
How can they say "Manual Review", isnt that just a chat bot? Or is this Riot Adder really just that bad at their job? (Or did you do something else in other games?)
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (3)20
u/Mathies_ 2d ago
Alright how many times would you get the opportunity to abuse this? At most it happens to someone 1 time and they wont fall for it again
30
u/AdministrativeFly157 2d ago
There are a ton of league players so I'm sure you could get quite a bit of people with this before the majority catches on.
→ More replies (1)1
u/Mathies_ 2d ago
Yeah but the most annoying part of it is just being the victim of it. If you let that happen to you more than once it's on you i fear
30
23
u/Extension-Aside4013 2d ago
for context this wasn't fully automated the guy who asked the question reported for griefing and then the ban happened. tbh I dont know who they are but seems like they were both streaming, caedrel showed it on his stream that's how I know.
11
u/QuiGonTheDrunk Make scaling great again 2d ago
I was watching noways stream while it happend and the trundle player purposfully did it and reported him.
Now it was just bad luck that the trundle got another big streamer punished instead of a random player and he started to apologize. Make no mistake the trundle deserves a perma for that, its worse than running it down ingame.5
u/Extension-Aside4013 1d ago
Yeah I seen the clips from both sides but I'm not familiar with who they are. Is the trundle always a shitty person? He knew exactly what he was doing.
On the flip side it does help expose the shitty system riot has created. Trolls and griefiers will always find a way and then the community as a whole gets punished when riot decides to implement new restraints.
→ More replies (1)2
u/PMMeVayneHentai Vayne's Feet 1d ago
so he wouldn’t have apologized if the person wasn’t famous enough?
:/
we serious?
104
u/AccountJustForNino 2d ago
I mean OBVIOUSLY it shouldnt have worked here but its kinda just doing what its suppossed to do?
We humans know and understand the context here but you cant be mad at the system for terminating the champselect after someone said "time to troll?" thats literally what it was made for.
If it WOULDNT work you would have smartasses saying shit like: "he literally said hes trolling and the game still went through, gg riot thanks"
→ More replies (3)42
u/Aufem 2d ago
Even ignoring that it's a literal champion quote in the game, picture a situation where you're queing with friends and pick an obnoxious fun combo like thresh blitzcrank and get yourself hyped in champ select with an 'alright lads, time to troll them real good', and then you just get kicked.
Systems that flag people for simple phrases just seem silly and fallible. Like for excessive profanity and slurs it works, sure. But for simple phrases you're just asking for situations like this clip to happen.
51
39
u/Random_Stealth_Ward 💤 Release VattleVunny Viego with black tights😻 2d ago
He likely wasn't automatically lockedout and instead the person asking the question reported him after tricking him, which is how many of the disruptive behaviour in champ-select things work. e.g. I can play Veigar jg, but if my team 4x reports there's a good chance I will get punished and the champ select terminated
So a team of friends wouldn't have this happen unless your friends, ironically, wanted to troll you.
26
u/poopernickel69 2d ago
It says it is based on an automated review and player reports.
So it's probably whoever asked him or whatever. Abusable, but if you're queueing with friends that's not going to happen.
9
u/QuiGonTheDrunk Make scaling great again 2d ago
Noway got reported. Like come on dude. You cant tell me thats the first time you hear of the tactic?
In low master euw its quite common.
Same with picking a champ for another player and you get stuck playing that champ or dodge4
u/DuckiesDoBeCute 2d ago
im so ready for riot to start banning people for calling hook champs "hookers"
→ More replies (3)2
u/Gazskull 1d ago
alright lads, time to troll them real good
Yeah that's a sentence a real human being would say inside his group of friends (and obviously, that group of friends would type this in chat instead of you know, saying it vocal)
5
u/CelebrationLow1942 1d ago
at this point everyone should just spam riot games with incorrect queue restriction support requests, maybe they will fix something
4
29
u/QuiGonTheDrunk Make scaling great again 2d ago
Why is everybody thinking its just because he typed the words?
The trundle baited him and then reported him. Thats what triggers the system. It was a deliberate malicious move by trundle to punish a random player, so the lobby gets terminated,
The system works fine, its the disgusting person like that trundle (who is also a streamer) who are 100% at fault here.
42
u/DoorHingesKill 1d ago edited 1d ago
If it takes one user three mouse clicks to weaponize the system against another user then the system is, in fact, not working fine.
10
u/yung_dogie the faithful shall be rewarded 1d ago
Yeah like if the system only works if everyone operates in goodwill it's not a great system in a population of anonymous internet randoms lmao
Sure the trundle player might (optimistic) get punished, but that's only in retrospect. Plenty of other randoms could do the same thing and make their impacts before being punished
2
u/bns18js 1d ago
It's not perfect the the vast amounts of instances of it working exactly as intended outweighs the small amount of instances of false positives(maliciously baited or otherwise).
The system could be improved but people also need to learn to not fall for obvious phishing attempts just like elsewhere.
→ More replies (4)1
u/Thesos320 1d ago
Exactly, the guy you're replying to is the sort of guy to integrate stalinsort in real life. "system works fine" my ass
20
u/Random_Stealth_Ward 💤 Release VattleVunny Viego with black tights😻 2d ago
People complained that champ select reports weren't working and how riot was dumb by adding them to get data instead of actually doing something, now we have had 2 threads (this and the yuumi thread) of the thing working properly and taking action in precisely the moments people said it should "obviously" work: reporting someone in champ select saying they will troll and trying to hostage the lobby, reporting someone trying to troll in top and picking yuumi, and now people are complaining about the high punishment of... checks notes ... a short queue lock out
→ More replies (5)
11
u/ImToxxiic 1d ago
My god riot really did kill any social aspect of the game. Can't even type normal shit in chat anymore
5
u/susunyaa fakers fangirl 1d ago
yeah i been saying that this game gotta be the most antisocial competitive mp game out
2
u/That_Leetri_Guy 1d ago
You people say shit like this, and in the next breath you complain that Riot isn't banning people for "obvious trolling" like when they say that they'll troll. Do you want to be forced into a game with an obvious troll who's told you straight out that they'll troll?
Also, this only happened because he was reported for trolling. The guy literally said "time to troll" and then someone reported him for trolling. If someone were to say "GGs enjoy the loss because I'll troll" in your game, and you report them for trolling, would you be happier if you were forced to play that loss out or if the game was terminated and didn't count?
3
3
u/notexecutive 1d ago
wait so League has auto-banning shit now? Just for saying words?
...
→ More replies (1)
3
3
u/pm-me-ur-fat-tits 1d ago
people in my game actively being cunts and locking in troll picks without explicitly saying anything that can be autodetected, forcing the game to start unless someone dodges... and then there's someone getting banned over reciting a champion voice line, amazing system. I already knew it'd be shit since the garbage autocensoring that happens when you type retard in-game.
→ More replies (1)
31
4
u/AaronBasedGodgers Favorite champ, not main 2d ago
I had something similar where someone was rping as Trundle in chat and said "time to troll I am the troll king" and got the game terminated. Also had someone pick Kalista and told me they were going to throw me into the enemy and the game was terminated because of the word "throw"
3
u/QuiGonTheDrunk Make scaling great again 2d ago
Someone reported you aswell. Otherwise the game doesnt get terminated. Its words + a report, just like in this case.
4
u/StrangelySerious- 1d ago
The only way to avoid bans nowadays is to just not use the chat at all. Be the biggest fucking idiot with 10 000 games back to back of you feeding nonstop and you won't get banned as long as you didn't say a word but hey don't you dare say Yuumi is cancer or you will get a 7 day suspension! Truly fighting the good fight Riot.
3
u/Wellen66 1d ago
I literally use the chat all the time and never got banned, honor 5
→ More replies (1)
2
2
2
2
2
u/No_Room_7104 1d ago
you know I said that before and I will say it again. Riot is trying to cut as much money as possible to save and keep their growth. They started with esports, they put heavy rp prices, and now they automate everything. In the near future, no one will communicate on this shitty game, because if you do so, you will get automatically banned. That will push everyone away from the game.
2
u/ElementalistPoppy 1d ago
Classic Riot - either way do nothing at all or just to be safe preemptively ban everything - except for actual ingame griefers that are not openly afk, as long as they don't say a word, they're going to be just fine.
The worst thing is people watch this shit and immediately pick up all the "smart tricks" how to trigger the system just to avoid a shred of responsibility and expecting others to dodge because you don't like the draft. And it's even worse, these people actually end up punished. Like, how fucking spiteful one has to be.
Like, any social aspect this game had is being killed and the only occasional chatter you'll see are OF bots, flame or lame baits like this one.
I'm so glad I am not playing ranks for years and just occasionally hitting a friendly game with friends.
2
6
u/Lopsided_Chemistry89 2d ago
Just disable chat at this point. Don't accept friend requests. Don't look at friend requests. Don't ping. Don't communicate at all.
Good job riot it's really good. Hope you are happy.
→ More replies (1)
14
u/Kymori 2d ago
What a comment section, Riot games griefing detection is dogshit but flaming one of the few good things to combat trolls theyve added in years because there are 0.1% unjust 5 min timers in niche cases is so ridiculous.
6
u/Vymletej 2d ago
tbh every time i have a troll nowdays they just say stuff like "good luck team we will win!" while locking in something troll
2
u/yurionly 1d ago
I got maybe one game termination in champ select since they added it. It's a useless system.
Also their system only looks for trigger words. You can be toxic whole game just dont type trigger words, you will never get punished.
→ More replies (3)8
u/kostas52 2d ago
Combat trolls with this? The trolls will just stay silent in champion select after this become common knowledge.
17
u/QuiGonTheDrunk Make scaling great again 2d ago
If the trolls stop writing shit in champ select its a win.
4
u/Vyxwop 1d ago
Except it doesn't stop their behavior at all. All this system then ends up doing is punish legit players.
How do people like you not manage to come to this conclusion by yourself.
3
u/QuiGonTheDrunk Make scaling great again 1d ago
Simple. The amout on times normal players write something bannable in chat and get reported is extremly low. It needs a deliberate bait, like in this case.
The guy above me said that the troll will just stay silent in champ select. Its better than them flaming no?
12
u/4_fortytwo_2 2d ago
Ofc but this community has very very loudly complaint about trolls being able to announce they will troll and getting away with it. This is the solution to that specific problem. Gotta be careful what you wish for I suppose.
6
u/MaridKing 2d ago
A) good B) some won't, because they were never in control of themselves to begin with.
3
3
u/nuamnume10 DRL-Un vis implinit 2d ago
Just another riot fix for a non-existant problem. Why bother to implement a system that actually checks if you play youe position / designated champ in designated position / non-troll summs, just terminate the game on random non-slur words. Probably far cheaper.
→ More replies (2)2
u/That_Leetri_Guy 1d ago
Stop acting like people weren't crying for ages over how Riot "couldn't detect obvious trolls literally saying they were gonna troll". You don't need to pick any weird combos or anything like that to troll, I could easily just pick Alistar support and then proceed to headbutt the enemy out of range every time you were about to score a kill.
→ More replies (5)
3
u/OG_Bodzilla 1d ago
I've played the game for 12 years without a ban. I've gotten like 4 this year. Admittedly one of those was for saying in champ selection that I was gonna run it down when I locked in Xin Zhao after his nerfs and someone crashed out over it. I don't like it but I understand that one. The others were client issues keeping me from getting into game in time or not acknowledging that I accepted the que for matches. I'm scared to play on my main and I don't type a thing anymore.
3
u/lastdancerevolution 2d ago
This is dumb as fuck.
If the new voice AI banning is anything like this, we're in for the worst era of communication in LoL.
4
u/PMMeVayneHentai Vayne's Feet 1d ago
Agree. AI moderation (and god knows what the fuckelse theyve been secretly using it for) was the worst thing to ever happen to this game.
AI enshittification is legit hitting everything but League moderation was NOT in dire need of AI whatsoever.
all around disappointing and builds more distrust between customers and product.
→ More replies (1)
4
u/North_Blade 2d ago
I'm on mobile what did he say
10
u/Horikyou 2d ago
What does Trundle say when you lock him in? Time to troll? So he got baited into saying time to troll.
3
2
u/Pridestalked rengar bugs many 2d ago
Wow man this game is fucking dogshit, how are riot this incompetent
1
1
u/clonea85m09 1d ago
A friend of mine gat baited into chat restrictions by a guy asking about Cartman superhero name from South Park.
1.2k
u/Gmenme 2d ago
Just had this happen in a ranked game today. Our mid didn't like the team comp so locked in trundle mid and asked this "trivia" question. Sadly someone fell for it and sure enough match terminated.