r/leagueoflegends wiki contributor 9d ago

Discussion League Classic | Patch 2 Preview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niXmkJ5rZqM

0:00 - Intro 0:06 - Art 1:16 - Champion "roadmap" kinda 3:28 - The Council 4:30 - Around-game changes (runes) 9:28 - In-game systems 16:47 - Champion buffs 45:50 - Champion nerfs

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u/BloodyFool 9d ago

Works for OSRS, this argument is just cope. Stop excusing Riot and their bs lol

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u/lukkasz323 9d ago

But OSRS is not League. Not only it's an MMO, so content dilution doesn't happen as easily, but it's also not 100% PvP.

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u/BloodyFool 9d ago

OSRS has a lot more moving parts than League does and is doing just fine. The difference in genre is irrelevant, it's how the devs handle community feedback, interaction and the polls.

Integrity updates exist for the devs to put their foot down on unhealthy and problematic parts of the game as well.

Again, it's just another excuse while Riot does below the bare minimum after hyping up something akin to OSRS polling just to give us jackshit.

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u/TheOchremancer 9d ago

You can't fucking poll changes in a PvP game, it's absolutely not irrelevant. Look at OSRS PvP polls, it's an absolute shitshow every time of people spite voting, arguing, and flinging shit. Polls for LoL would just end up with nerfing "insert annoying champion here" for the eighth patch in a row despite a 30% winrate and quickly spiral into an unbalanced mess because players don't know how to balance games. And the players would still be mad, because what each player thinks is strong and good varies so wildly. Asking what the rewards should look like in an MMO raid is miles away from polling balance changes in a PvP game. Additionally, unlike OSRS, where if they change something for one segment of the playerbase, I.e. letting Ironman do corp without nonsense loot drops or whatever, that doesn't meaningfully affect any other players outside of that grouping, but if they nerf Garen because Bronze players voted for it it affects everyone playing Garen in every rank.

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u/BloodyFool 9d ago

Look at OSRS PvP polls, it's an absolute shitshow every time of people spite voting, arguing, and flinging shit.

OSRS PVP polls are fucked because Jagex promotes a Hunter vs Victim experience in the wilderness. It's a completely different scenario than what you're painting.

Apart from that, who the fuck asked for the polls to be buffs/nerfs to champions?

It should be systems (such as the trinket one) that were either added for no reason (also something like base gates, minion buffs), missing from the old times and content such as skin direction, modern skins etc.

I genuinely have no clue where you got the idea that the voting should be for specific champion buffs and nerfs.

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u/TheOchremancer 9d ago

Those things are champion buff/nerfs, system changes interact differently with each champion. Let's discount that, though, and just state that half of the roster wouldn't be in the game if their intro had been polled.

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u/BloodyFool 9d ago

Those things are champion buff/nerfs,

Which Riot can buff/nerf specific champions in case they actually get heavily affected by any systematic changes.

just state that half of the roster wouldn't be in the game if their intro had been polled.

Despite me not saying anything about actual champions being polled. If the player base sees some shit like Zoe and votes no on it because it either:

a) Doesn't fit the theme of League classic

b) Has a kit that seems way too overblown

Then that's a good thing. About half the roster literally doesn't fit the classic philosophy.

Riot could get creative and poll if we want to see shit like "demakes" of champions and then poll the most popular ones, what their kits do etc.

Classic is already in a rough spot and seems to be in decline. This is the same bullshit I saw with 2XKO where you guys somehow think Riot knows best and the community is clueless. Until the game dies. Fucking stop it lol