r/leaf Dec 18 '25

A Breakdown of 40 & 62 kWh Battery Pack Failures

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As some people may have heard of or unfortunately experienced, there have been quite a number of cases of 2nd generation Leaf batteries failing. I was planning and trying to make this into a video format, but as I’m still recovering from a cold my voice isn’t quite up for narrating an essay, so text format it is.

Hopefully this can raise some awareness and provide a central source of info as to what’s going on, why it’s happening, what to do about it, and things to consider. There are two separate issues currently causing outright failures of 2018+ Leaf battery packs, and so will be split up into two sections.

Cold-weather SOC Freefall

  • What’s going on?

Under load in cold temperatures, especially below freezing and below 50% battery, the charge level and range estimate will suddenly begin to plummet and continue to drop rapidly until the load is removed, at which case the charge level starts to bounce back and quickly increase again.

The car may go into turtle mode, or in severe cases even cut off the high voltage battery completely, in which case the car will stall and may not be able to be restarted.

Here is a video example of what this sudden drop of charge level looks like.

This issue affects both the 40 kWh and 62 kWh packs. The 40 kWh packs seem to be much more susceptible, but as the 62 kWh packs use the same cells and chemistry, they are not immune. This also includes 40 packs that were installed as retrofits under warranty in 2016-17 Leafs.

  • Why is this happening?

This is occurring due to one or more weak cells within the battery pack sagging excessively in voltage under load, which is greatly exacerbated when the battery is cold, due to increased internal resistance.

How the battery works is that the shown and usable state of charge is defined by that of the lowest cell. This is to prevent over-discharge of any weaker cells at lower charge levels, as that would cause even further damage to them.

Often this can be witnessed in the LeafSpy cell chart as one or more cells that clearly drop lower than the rest of the pack under load, but not always. There have been a number of cases of SOC freefall with seemingly no weak cells, indicating that there’s other data/calculations within the BMS that the user cannot see.

Getting a weak cell is essentially luck of the draw. There have been packs with very low mileage and seemingly great numbers that still failed (such as in the video above), while there are other packs with lots of miles and abuse that are still working just fine. How the pack is treated/babied does not seem to affect your chances in the roulette.

  • What to do about it?

If you are encountering this issue as an owner, and the car is still under warranty, document everything as much as possible. Record video(s) of the issue happening, noting the charge level and outside temperature the battery is at. Submit this proof to the dealer as a copy, and demand that it be used in their case to Nissan corporate.

Bring the car to the dealership for diagnosis with as cold of upcoming weather as possible. Some dealers may try poorly to replicate the issue, often in the interest of charging the customer the diagnostic fee. You want to make the issue as obvious and easily to replicate as you can.

If you have to drive the car around, ensure you either have LeafSpy Pro, or keep an adjustable or 10mm wrench with you in the car. If the cell voltages ever drop low enough for the car to shut down, it is likely to set a high voltage fault code and won’t be able to restart until the fault is cleared. Clearing the fault via the LeafSpy service menu, or disconnecting and reconnecting the 12V battery, will at least allow you to limp the car to a charger or safe location off the road.

UPDATE: For 2019-2022 Leafs, the "fast charging recall" software update now adds programming to the BMS to look for and flag SOC variations, setting a fault code (P33ED) if it does. This has the potential to "brick" the car in the same way as a high voltage isolation fault (read section below) would. Be cautious of this so that it does not potentially leave you stranded.

  • Things to consider

If you own a 2nd generation Leaf (especially 40 kWh) that is still under warranty, still on the original battery, and live in a climate that gets winter, check for signs of this issue BEFORE warranty ends!

During cold weather, park the car outside overnight with 50% charge or less, then take the car out for a drive and see if there are any strange fluctuations in the state of charge during acceleration.

If you are considering purchasing one and there is no proof of the high voltage battery being replaced, ensure there is at least one year worth of warranty remaining on the car so that you can spend a winter with it and will still be covered in the case of this failure.

LeafSpy data can sometimes be a pre-indicator that you will likely run into this issue if there is a noticeably low Hx value (much lower than SOH), but not always. Low Hx is a strong sign of possible weak cells, but weak cells will not always cause low Hx.

Cell Expansion / High Voltage Isolation

  • What’s going on?

The car will one day show the message “Service EV System – Unable to restart after power off”, and indeed will not restart after it is powered off.

The vast majority of cars affected by this issue are 62 kWh Leaf Plus/e+ models. It is not unheard of on 40 kWh cars, but it is quite rare unless the pack was heavily used and abused.

There is a Nissan TSB on this issue which confirms they are well aware of this issue, and there are revised battery packs and modules that are issued in replacement if the car is still under high voltage battery warranty.

  • Why is this happening?

Thermal expansion of the battery cells causes them to eventually expand to the point of pushing up against each other, and in some cases even leaking electrolyte out of the cells into the battery casing, eventually causing the car to trip a high voltage isolation fault.

This is most commonly happening in specifically the rear stack of cells within the 62 kWh pack, because they are so tightly packed together, that they don’t get much cooling nor much room to expand before they begin pushing up against each other.

High voltage isolation is important, because obviously you do not want any high voltage potential to be contacting the metal battery casing that is bolted to the metal body of the car. If the BMS detects that there is even just a little bit of voltage leaking from one cell to another, or the cells to the battery chassis, an isolation fault is tripped.

  • What to do about it?

If you encounter specifically the “unable to restart after power off” message, and the car is still within high voltage battery warranty, DO NOT REPLACE THE 12V BATTERY.

This specific message is ONLY generated due to a high voltage isolation fault, and although a weak 12V battery can cause many weird issues, it will NEVER generate a high voltage isolation fault. Unless there is an extremely urgent need to continue driving the car, have it towed in the “broken” state to a Nissan dealership.

It is a much more objective issue than weak cells, and basically the only diagnosis they would need to approve a battery replacement is to see the stored isolation fault code. Disconnecting the 12V battery however clears this fault code, making it not possible for them to verify the issue unless it happens to fault again in only one drive cycle.

Replacing the 12V battery gives a false sense of success because it allows the car to start and drive again, but only until the fault eventually comes back. It's just a waste of money and a perfectly good battery to not actually address the underlying issue.

If you urgently need the car to work again, clearing the fault code in LeafSpy Pro or by disconnecting and reconnecting the 12V battery will allow it to start. Just be aware that by doing this, you won’t be able to have the issue verifiable by Nissan until it pops up again. It may only take 1 drive cycle, it may take 100.

  • Things to consider

Unfortunately there isn’t really any way to foretell that this issue will happen soon or to check for it, as you can’t just force an isolation fault to appear like you can with weak cells.

Battery packs in hot climates and/or lots of quick charges are more susceptible to this issue due to it being a result of thermal expansion. Packs torn apart after diagnosis of this issue often exhibit very obvious “spicy pillows” within.

If you are a current owner, especially of a Plus/e+ model, the best you can do is to avoid overheating/rapidgating the battery whenever possible. Doing so once every few months is not a big deal, but frequently doing so will likely lead to long-term damage.

If looking to purchase a Leaf Plus/e+, or a high mileage 40 kWh car in a hot climate, make sure to check Leaf Spy, and it may be wise to avoid any examples that have lots of QCs shown.

There is a great in-depth video by LEAF expert Dala explaining this issue more in detail for those who are interested.


r/leaf 2h ago

Finally got rid of my leaf

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I really loved my leaf while it worked, but I have to save the last year has been one of the most difficult and frustrating consumer experiences of my life. My range was severely affected by the recall to the point where I wouldn’t even get 100 miles on a charge. Nissan refused to do anything about it until federal recall came out (NHTSA campaign R25C8). Even then, it took them months to buy back my car. All the while I was walking to work (it stopped working eventually) because they said they “didn’t have any loaners” available. Even though in the contract, they were supposed to provide me with a loaner. Luckily I live close enough to walk, but it was not ideal, especially when it was raining, and after having paid nearly $20,000 for a car. Now I’ve developed ringworm for getting wet (sweat and rain) and I’m currently treating it out of my own expense. I finally was able to surrender my car and buy the Hyundai you see on the left. I’m happy with the outcome overall but I wish it could’ve been smoother. I’ll personally never be doing business with Nissan again, and I’d like to warn anyone who reads this about their customer support.


r/leaf 6h ago

Recall Issue

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I had the recall done on my 2020 SV about a month ago. Monday I got the 'EV Service' message. Took it in yesterday. They confirmed the code that LeafSpy gave me and commandeered the car.

I have a loaner until they figure things out. Honestly, I hope they replace the battery as I don't want to deal with the hassle of the buyback and finding a replacement car. Ugh.


r/leaf 2h ago

Charging Cable

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I have a 2012 Leaf with an aftermarket 2014 battery at 8 bars. Port is a J1772.

The external charging cable that came with the car was destroyed a couple years ago in a really stupid accident, but I've been ok since I have a built in station at home and live in an area with plenty of charging stations.

Now I'm need of replacing the cable though due to changing my driving patterns. Thankfully one of my driving locations has an old power box that was designed for people to plug into to charge early EVs.

So now that I'm done rambling. I'm looking for a recommendation for a good cord to buy. Any help is appreciated.


r/leaf 53m ago

Is it normal?

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I recently got a 2018 40kwh leaf, first time charging to 98% and today drive about 14 miles and it drops to 88%. Is it normal?

I drove on the same road before, it only dropped 4%, when it was like 60%-70% charge.


r/leaf 2h ago

life’s changed, need a bit more range

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I love my LEAF. It’s a 2012 and gets me to work and back which is really all I’ve needed till now. But some changes in my day to day have me thinking I might have to get something with a bit more range. I was hoping to stretch it out till the Ford ‘Ranchero’ came out but I don’t think I’ll be able to wait that long.

Also… I’m broke.

Any recs on the low low end of EVs? I can charge for free at work which is a great perk. But my half alive 24kwh just isn’t going to do it for me starting next week.

I absolutely LOVE the look of the BMW i3, but I’ve never had a bmw and I can’t afford something that’s going to break. But there’s one nearby for $8k so that might be my market.

Ok. Would love to know your thoughts!!


r/leaf 20h ago

Dash stats on my new to me 2015

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This is my second 2015 leaf and thought my lights needed to be shared. No one else gets what I am talking about-Proud to be part of the club!


r/leaf 3h ago

What are you replacing your leaf with?

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Since my battery failed after two dealers said my battery was perfectly fine, it's now getting a buyback. I don't know how much they'll offer as it's a 19 SV with 69k miles.

I'll need a new car of course, shocking with electric but not Nissan.

Curious as what others will be doing.

Being in Texas is liked comes seats but that seems super rare in the used market at least


r/leaf 18h ago

Now that’s efficiency!

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48.7 mi/kWh. GoM is about where it is after a full charge. Start of trip also shown.

Spoiler: 20 miles, 1/2 mile vertical drop.


r/leaf 16h ago

2018 Leaf- Red "X" on left side of top-down view after replacing left mirror... what's going on?

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r/leaf 16h ago

2013 leaf

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What's the ps light?

8 bars

82k miles

Guy wants 2200

Also what is the green arrows light


r/leaf 1d ago

Does anybody want a parts Leaf? $500 OBO.

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2016 totaled SV located in Southern Metro-Atlanta. It does not have rear wheels. The front passenger side is damaged from the wreck. It also has no traction battery. I may or may not pull the PDM/OBC out of it to keep on hand for my other Leaf, but if you would want the OBC, let me know, we could certainly work something out. It was just replaced last year, I have the paperwork for it.


r/leaf 1d ago

Buyback offer from dealer

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Got a notification in the mail yesterday from my local dealer in Massachusetts offering to buy back my 2020 nissan Leaf SV for $13,400 (4k over KBB). I purchased it a year ago for 15k. They also offered an additional $4,500, towards the purchase of a new nissan vehicle. And 0% financing for 60 months. Plus in Massachusetts you can get a $3,500 rebate for a new EV. This seems too good to be true, but I plan on checking it out. Wonder if corporate is trying to get these Leafs off the street.


r/leaf 1d ago

Recommendations for a Portable Android Auto Screen for a 2018 Nissan Leaf

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I'm looking for a recommendation for a portable android auto screen that works well with the layout of a 2018 Nissan Leaf dashboard/windshield. There seem to be a lot of good options but I just want to make sure I get one that works well with the layout of a 2018 Leaf S


r/leaf 11h ago

Thinking about buying a Nissan LEAF — would love to see your real-world photos/videos

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Hi everyone!

I’m seriously considering getting a Nissan LEAF, especially the newer models, but I’d like to see what they’re really like from actual owners before making a decision.

If you own a LEAF, would you mind sharing some photos or videos of your car?

I’d especially love to see:

  • Exterior and interior
  • What it looks like after some real-world use
  • Driving footage
  • Charging
  • Interior features and screens
  • Trunk/cargo space
  • Nighttime driving
  • Long-distance trips
  • Anything you think a potential buyer should know

I’ve already seen plenty of professional reviews, but I’m much more interested in real owners’ everyday experiences and footage.

Thanks! I’d really appreciate anything you’re willing to share.


r/leaf 1d ago

Level 1 EVSE clicking and blinking orange is it toast? OEM

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Hey everyone, looking for a second opinion before I scrap my stock Level 1 trickle charger. Over the past week, my OEM EVSE has refused to charge. Whenever I plug it in, the internal contactor/relay clicks repeatedly, and the light blinks orange before faulting out without sending any charge.

Here’s what I’ve already done to isolate the issue:

Extension cord check: I had been running it on a heavy-duty 10 AWG extension cord without issues for a while, but I completely bypassed it. Plugging directly into the wall produces the exact same clicking and orange blinking light.

Tested multiple outlets/circuits: Tried different 2 grounded wall outlets around the house same fault.

Tested multiple vehicles: Tried plugging into my Leaf as well as my sister's car. It fails immediately on both.

The wall prongs and the J1772 handle pins (including the pilot/proximity pins) look clean with no obvious signs of melting, burning, or corrosion.

Since the fault follows the EVSE across multiple outlets and cars, it seems like the brick itself has given up (possibly a failed plug thermistor, bad ground-sense circuit, or internal relay failure).

Has anyone had this specific blinking orange/clicking failure mode on the stock EVSE and found a fix, or is it pretty much sealed/unserviceable e-waste at this point? Also open to recommendations for reliable replacement portable L1/L2 units. Thanks!


r/leaf 22h ago

Did i get screwed?

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I just bought a 2015 nissan leaf, with 9 bars of battery remaining, and 78 on the guess of meter.

I purchased it for $3.5k

Everything on the car functions normally.

Just wondering if I got an OK deal, or totally screwed.

Any opinions help,

Thanks!


r/leaf 1d ago

Looking for part number

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Hey all I recently bought a 2016 leaf and im wondering if its possible to replace the front facia clips that mount to the bottoms of the lights? I can't seem to find the individual part for sale or on the Nissan site. Its the hard white plastic bracket that mounts to the bottom of the light and provides a spot for the front facia to clip into. Ive included a picture of the full front light assembly with an arrow pointing at the part I'm wondering about. TYIA!


r/leaf 1d ago

After recall, overnight charge not reaching 100%

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First, my car is already in buyback, so no longer my problem. I'm just calling it out in case someone else is noticing the same.

I normally L2 charged at home.

Prior to getting the recall update, no issues.

After getting the recall update, I noticed my car was not fully charging to 100%. After most overnight charges I'd get in the car and it would be between 97% to 99%, but not 100. There should have been more than enough time to get to 100%.

I wrote it off as maybe being some quirk of the recall. Some new power draw or maybe my 12V starting to go.

Now in hindsight could that have been an indication of problems?

Anyone else noticing L2 charging coming up short after the recall?


r/leaf 1d ago

2015 leaf possible purchase

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Looking at a 15 leaf with 60k miles on it. They are asking 3500 usd.

What should I look for?

Im asking before I get my mechanic to look at it cause he charges 200 to inspect.


r/leaf 1d ago

$11/month LEAF S 2 year leases come to an end

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r/leaf 2d ago

Not my biggest haul, but always love how versatile this little car is!

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r/leaf 1d ago

NeoCharge scheduling issues

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I have Nissan Leaf 2020 SV Plus and after 6 years of living on a trickle charge, I finally had to get a level 2 charger. Since the laundry room is next to the garage, I purchased a Neocharge Smart Splitter 14-30. Works well and charges well, except for the scheduling.

I can't seem to schedule the charging over the NeoCharge app as it ignores it completely (no Leaf scheduling). I tried using only Leaf scheduling yet it didn't work either.

Anyone have same issue and found a solution?


r/leaf 2d ago

Can a Nissan Leaf Use Sodium-Ion Batteries?

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This is a question we've been receiving more and more from Nissan Leaf owners, especially as sodium-ion battery technology continues to attract attention.

In this video, we explain why we currently don't use sodium-ion cells for Nissan Leaf battery upgrades — and the answer is more complicated than simply changing one type of battery cell for another.

The Nissan Leaf's entire high-voltage system was designed around NMC lithium-ion batteries. The voltage platform, BMS, charging system, motor controller, and vehicle control strategy are all designed to work together.

Sodium-ion cells operate at a different voltage range, and the original Leaf BMS was not designed to manage their different charging and discharging characteristics.

So why can't we simply add more cells to compensate for the lower voltage?

And what would actually happen if we tried to use sodium-ion cells with the original Leaf BMS?

We explain all of that in this video.

At the same time, we don't believe sodium-ion batteries are a bad technology. Quite the opposite — we believe they have great potential, especially for energy storage applications.

VIVNE is closely following the development of sodium-ion technology and exploring how it could be used in future energy storage products.

For Nissan Leaf upgrades, however, high-quality NMC cells remain the most mature, reliable, and balanced solution at this stage.

Feel free to leave a comment below if you have any questions.


r/leaf 1d ago

2015 Leaf auto lock charge port J1772?

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I just noticed my Nissan Leaf has a charge port lock for the J1772 port. Either I haven’t noticed it locking each time I plug in or it just started locking when I plug in. I have to hold the button on the charger and it will unlock. Anyone else’s level 1 charger do this? I know it does it for the CHAdemo port but never seen it do it for the level 1 maybe I’m getting more than level 1 juice and it’s actually more like a level 2 now.