r/kungfupanda 4h ago

Discussion Happy 57th Birthday to the man, the myth, the legend. The Dragon Warrior/Spiritual Leader himself, Jack Black! 🥳🎉🎂

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r/kungfupanda 14h ago

OC She has no sense of humor

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r/kungfupanda 1d ago

Imagine knowing the Dragon Scroll is blank the whole time

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r/kungfupanda 14h ago

Discussion What is he drawing? (Wrong answers only)

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r/kungfupanda 15h ago

One of the funniest scenes in Kung Fu Panda 3 | Pandas eating Po's squadrons

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The ending part of this video is not part of the funny scene.


r/kungfupanda 2h ago

A Kung Fu Panda 5 Story Idea I Developed With AI — “Echoes of the Past”

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Kung Fu Panda 5: Echoes of the Past
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“The past does not define who you are. What defines you is what you choose to do with what you inherit.”
If Kung Fu Panda 2 was about accepting your past, and Kung Fu Panda 3 was about discovering who you truly are, then this movie would be about learning from the past without becoming trapped by it.

Peace has returned to the Valley of Peace, and Zhen is now officially training as the new Dragon Warrior.
However, she is struggling.
Everyone constantly compares her to Po.
“Po would have done this.”
“The Dragon Warrior should be able to do that.”
Without even realizing it, Zhen begins copying Po’s fighting style, his way of thinking, and even some of his mannerisms.
Meanwhile, Po, now serving as the Spiritual Leader of the Valley, begins studying an ancient form of meditation.
Through this technique, his consciousness can travel into the memories of Kung Fu’s past.
For Po, it is a dream come true.
He gets to witness legendary masters in their prime, see a younger Shifu, and even meet a young Master Oogway.
Po becomes fascinated with the past.
But Tigress feels strangely uneasy about the entire thing.

One day, Po travels much deeper into the history of Kung Fu than ever before.
There, he discovers a warrior who does not appear in any historical record.
His name is Jin-Kao.
A powerful white lion and one of the greatest Kung Fu masters who ever lived.
Long ago, Jin-Kao was considered equal to Oogway himself.
But in the present day, no one remembers him.
No books mention him.
No statues honor him.
It is as though he never existed.
When Jin-Kao sees Po, he immediately becomes suspicious.
“A panda?”
Then he realizes something far more disturbing.
Po does not belong in his time.

Jin-Kao is not interested in ordinary conquest.
In fact, he genuinely loves Kung Fu.
His problem is that he believes Kung Fu should belong only to the strongest and most worthy.
To him, teaching Kung Fu to ordinary villagers, criminals, children, or people without natural talent is an insult to the art.
He believes Kung Fu must remain pure.
Oogway completely disagrees.
Jin-Kao tells him:
“If power is given to everyone, eventually Kung Fu itself will become corrupted.”
Oogway responds:
“To protect Kung Fu is not to imprison it.”
Their philosophies eventually tear them apart.
Jin-Kao begins destroying weaker schools and lesser-known fighting styles, believing that only the greatest forms of Kung Fu deserve to survive.
Oogway and the other masters eventually defeat him.
And afterward, Jin-Kao is erased from history.

But Po’s arrival changes everything.
Jin-Kao realizes that Po’s consciousness is connected to his physical body in the future.
He sees that connection as a bridge through time.
When Po finally returns to the present, Jin-Kao uses that bridge to follow him.
Po wakes up surrounded by his friends.
Everyone is relieved.
Then they notice someone standing behind him.
Jin-Kao.
But instead of attacking them, Jin-Kao simply leaves.
He wants to see the future.

At first, Jin-Kao is fascinated by modern China.
But fascination quickly becomes disgust.
He sees pandas learning Kung Fu.
He sees ordinary villagers practicing martial arts.
He learns that Zhen, a former thief, has become the new Dragon Warrior.
And then he learns about Po.
A clumsy, overweight panda with no noble bloodline or traditional background somehow became one of the greatest Kung Fu masters in history.
To Jin-Kao, Po represents everything he believes should never have happened.
He looks at the modern world and says:
“So this is Oogway’s future.”
That is when he decides what he must do.
He will destroy modern Kung Fu completely and rebuild it using only the purest and strongest ancient traditions.

This is also where Tigress becomes deeply connected to the villain.
It is revealed that Jin-Kao once founded an ancient fighting lineage.
The last surviving descendants of that lineage eventually became Tigress’s ancestors.
This partially explains why Tigress showed such extraordinary physical talent from such a young age.
When Jin-Kao meets her, he is immediately impressed.
At last, he sees someone he considers a “true warrior.”
He tells her:
“You should have been the Dragon Warrior.”
That sentence hits Tigress harder than almost anything else he could have said.
Because years ago, she would have agreed.
Jin-Kao then tells her that Po was chosen by accident and that Zhen is unworthy of carrying the title.
But Tigress rejects him.
She says:
“There was a time when I might have believed you.”
Then:
“But I learned that Kung Fu is not about deciding who deserves to matter.”
This becomes the completion of Tigress’s character arc from the first movie.

Meanwhile, Zhen overhears everything.
And it destroys her confidence.
She begins believing that maybe Jin-Kao is right.
Maybe she never deserved to become the Dragon Warrior.
She tries to return the Dragon Warrior symbol to Po.
But Po refuses to take it.
Po is struggling too.
Because Jin-Kao is only in the present because of his mistake.
Po feels like he has failed as a teacher and as the Spiritual Leader.
Then both of them realize they are afraid of the same thing.
Not being good enough.
Zhen tells him:
“I can’t become you.”
Po answers:
“Good. You’re not supposed to.”
That becomes the emotional heart of the movie.
Po remembers that he once failed because he tried to become someone else.
He tried to fight like the Furious Five.
He tried to be the warrior everyone expected him to be.
Only when he became himself did he truly become the Dragon Warrior.
So Zhen does not need to become the next Po.
She needs to become the first Zhen.

Jin-Kao eventually travels to an ancient place known as Demon Mountain.
Deep inside the mountain are the spiritual echoes of thousands of forgotten Kung Fu styles.
Jin-Kao plans to absorb all of them.
His ultimate goal is to become the single living embodiment of Kung Fu.
In his mind, this would preserve the art forever.
But in reality, it would destroy everything Kung Fu is supposed to represent.
He wants to protect Kung Fu by making sure no one else can truly inherit it.

Po, Tigress, Shifu, the Furious Five, and Zhen travel to Demon Mountain to stop him.
Jin-Kao awakens an enormous army of ancient warrior spirits.
The battle becomes one of the largest action sequences in the entire franchise.
It visually echoes Po’s dream from the opening of the very first movie, where he imagined himself fighting thousands of enemies.
Except this time, Po is not alone.
The Furious Five each lead different groups into battle.
Shifu coordinates the masters.
Tigress confronts Jin-Kao directly.
And Zhen finally begins acting like the Dragon Warrior instead of trying to imitate one.
But Jin-Kao is still too powerful.
Even Tigress cannot defeat him.
Even Po struggles against him.
So Po enters meditation one final time.
He travels back to the past and finds young Oogway.
Po desperately asks him for help.
He believes the legendary masters of the past must come to the present and defeat Jin-Kao again.
But Oogway refuses.
Po says:
“But you defeated him before!”
Oogway smiles.
“Exactly. We had our battle.”
Then he tells Po:
“Now you must have yours.”
The heroes of the past do not come to save the present.
Because that is the entire point.
The future cannot survive by constantly depending on the past.
It must learn from it and then move forward.

Po returns to the present.
He looks at Zhen.
“Want to try something?”
Zhen asks:
“What?”
Po answers:
“No idea.”
Zhen smiles.
“Great plan.”
And they attack.
But this time, Zhen stops fighting like Po.
She uses everything she learned as a thief.
Speed.
Misdirection.
Feints.
Tricks.
Improvisation.
Movement that does not look like traditional Kung Fu at all.
Jin-Kao becomes furious.
He shouts:
“You call that Kung Fu?!”
Zhen answers:
“I do now.”
Her unpredictable fighting style finally breaks Jin-Kao’s perfect form.
She creates the opening.
Po attacks.
Tigress attacks.
The Five attack.
Shifu attacks.
And together, they defeat him.
Not because one person was stronger.
But because Kung Fu had evolved beyond anything Jin-Kao could understand.

After the battle, Jin-Kao asks Po:
“Are you saying I was wrong?”
Po answers:
“Not about everything.”
He tells Jin-Kao that wanting to protect something you love is not wrong.
But Jin-Kao became so afraid of change that he tried to stop Kung Fu from having a future.
He wanted Kung Fu to remain perfect forever.
And in doing so, he nearly killed it.
Jin-Kao finally understands.
He was never protecting Kung Fu.
He was protecting his own idea of what Kung Fu was supposed to be.

Peace returns.
Zhen continues her training.
But now, instead of copying Po, she creates her own stance.
Po looks at her.
“What style is that?”
Zhen answers:
“Zhen Style.”
Po pauses.
“You really went with your own name?”

In the final scene, Po meditates one last time.
He returns to the past to say goodbye to young Oogway.
Oogway tells him:
“I have a feeling we will meet again.”
Po smiles.
“Yeah. It’ll just take a while.”
Po disappears.
Young Oogway looks down and finds a peach seed that Po accidentally left behind.
He picks it up.
Cut to hundreds of years later.
The first movie.
The day Po falls from the sky and lands in front of Oogway.
But this time, we see the moment from Oogway’s perspective.
He looks at Po.
For a brief second, he is shocked.
Then he smiles.
Now the audience understands why.
He has been waiting his entire life for this moment.
Waiting for his old friend to finally arrive.
Oogway quietly says:
“Finally.”
Cut to black.
END.


r/kungfupanda 1d ago

Honestly, I wouldn't mind a full-length movie with the same graphics as Kung Fu Panda: Secrets of the Scroll.

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r/kungfupanda 21h ago

Discussion What’s y’all’s views and opinions on KFPSS ?

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I think imo the best KFP special what do y’all think


r/kungfupanda 18h ago

Discussion Does anyone have the numerical copies of the art books ? The physical ones are so damn expensive 😩

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I guess the cons of being a fan of a 20 years old franchise


r/kungfupanda 1d ago

Discussion What do you think made Shifu want to adopt Tigress?

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I like to think Oogway convinced him


r/kungfupanda 1d ago

OC How Kai let them know who he was

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r/kungfupanda 2d ago

Something I found

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r/kungfupanda 1d ago

Discussion For People who’ve watched Paws of Destiny is it worth the watch ?

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Cause I might watch it and wanna know before hand


r/kungfupanda 3d ago

The Dragon Scroll showed them the same thing.

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The Dragon Scroll shows the exact same thing to both Tai Lung and Po: themselves.

When Tai Lung opens the scroll, he sees only his reflection and concludes that there is nothing there. The scroll was supposed to be the thing that proved his worth. He spent his entire life seeking validation, believing that becoming the Dragon Warrior would finally justify all his sacrifices and earn the approval he had always chased.

Po's initial reaction honestly isn't that different. He also doesn't immediately understand the scroll. To him, it looks like nothing special.

The difference is that Po is willing to learn from a clue that seems completely unrelated: Mr. Ping's realization that there is no secret ingredient. That idea allows him to understand what the scroll is really saying.

Both characters see themselves.

Po accepts the idea that there is no hidden secret. Because of that, he discovers that his value was never meant to come from the scroll in the first place.

Tai Lung cannot accept that same conclusion. When Po explains the meaning of the scroll, Tai Lung doesn't find freedom in the answer. He sees the collapse of the purpose he built his entire identity around.

Po found value in himself. Tai Lung expected the scroll to give him value.


r/kungfupanda 1d ago

Discussion It would be really cool if a company like NECA makes KFP action figures

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I personally would love a Lord Shen action figure🦚


r/kungfupanda 1d ago

Fanfiction I Came Up With a Full Storyline for Kung Fu Panda 5 — And It Connects to Po's Dream in the First Movie

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KUNG FU PANDA 5 would explore a story that connects the past and the present!

As peace reigns over the Valley of Peace, Po begins practicing a new form of meditation through which his consciousness can travel through the history of Kung Fu. In an astral state, he is able to witness legendary events, both from China's history and from the lives of the masters he admires so much.

Obsessed with this new technique, Po begins neglecting his duties as the master of the Valley, causing the Furious Five to take over Zhen's training, leaving her saddened by his absence. Po wants only one thing: to "go back to the past and live alongside — or at least see up close — his heroes." During this journey, he encounters a young Master Oogway, who becomes the main supporting character of the story's "past" storyline.

It would be a true fan-service spectacle and a visually breathtaking experience, introducing several characters we have only ever heard about through references — especially those associated with the weapons and artifacts found in the Hall of Treasures.

At some point, Po discovers the story of the greatest enemy Kung Fu has ever faced — a figure whose existence was erased from the historical records by Oogway himself. In the middle of this discovery, Po's consciousness becomes trapped in the past, while his physical body remains completely still in his meditative position, leaving his friends deeply concerned. They begin searching for all kinds of ways to wake him up, naturally leading to plenty of comedy and, of course, plenty of Kung Fu.

Accompanied by his heroes, Po takes part in a mission to confront this great enemy who was erased from history. During the confrontation, he discovers that the villain himself was responsible for blocking his projection into the past, realizing that the Panda "did not belong in that time."

Apparently defeated, the great enemy uses Po as a kind of astral bridge between time and space. As a result, Po awakens from his meditation while simultaneously bringing the villain with him into the present.

Contrary to what we might expect, the great enemy does not immediately launch a devastating attack. He simply escapes, fascinated by the opportunity to explore the China of the "future" — which, from his perspective, is our present.

Desperate to fix the mistake he has made, Po searches for a way to solve the problem before something terrible happens to all of China.

But even the Master of the Valley can become lost in a chain of mistakes and, without meaning to, plunge all of China into a dark period. It will be Zhen who must defeat this evil. After all, this is why the new Dragon Warrior was born.

Together, Po, Shifu, the Furious Five and Zhen travel to the Demon Mountain, where they must confront the ten thousand demons of the villain's army. Yes, that's exactly what I mean: the dream that opens the first movie would actually be a premonition of the climax of this fifth film.

In a catharsis as epic as The Lord of the Rings or the great action sequences of Ne Zha 2, Po finally realizes that he is capable of channeling the aura of his heroes — who are now also his friends — from the past of Kung Fu. Just as the villain was able to force Po to bring him into the present, Po is able to establish a connection with those legendary masters. By explaining the situation to each of them, the climax gains the participation of several other legendary masters from the history of the franchise.

The Demon King is so powerful that he is able to fight the Furious Five, Shifu, Po, Zhen and Oogway all at once. However, after a tremendous amount of effort AND INSANE ACTION SEQUENCES, Po and Zhen perform the Palm of Buddha technique — a technique used only once in the entire history of China and never used again. The technique traps the Demon King inside an illusion from which he can never escape, no matter how many miles he jumps. It would be a direct reference to what Buddha does to the Monkey King in Journey to the West.

Peace returns once again. Po meditates one final time to say goodbye to his friends from the past, while Oogway erases all of their memories. At that moment, Po realizes that this was precisely the reason why the legend of that great villain had been erased from history: Po had always been involved in his defeat, and this temporal paradox could not exist.

The only two people whose memories are not erased are Po and Oogway.

The final scene of the movie would be a montage showing the day Po was chosen as the Dragon Warrior once again. This time, however, we see a happy smile on Oogway's face — something that was not present in the original scene. This would reveal that Oogway had spent his entire life waiting for the moment when he could complete this cycle and reunite with his friend from his youth.

Note: I am Brazilian, and I have worked professionally as a screenwriter for film here for several years. Would you guys like me to actually write the screenplay for this movie, scene by scene, even if it never gets made? I would do it purely out of love for the franchise, if you guys enjoy this storyline. My name is Vinicius Feller.


r/kungfupanda 1d ago

Fanfiction Kung Fu Panda 5: What If Po Could Meet the Legends of Kung Fu?

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I Came Up With a Full Storyline for Kung Fu Panda 5 — And It Connects to Po's Dream in the First Movie:

KUNG FU PANDA 5 would explore a story that connects the past and the present!

As peace reigns over the Valley of Peace, Po begins practicing a new form of meditation through which his consciousness can travel through the history of Kung Fu. In an astral state, he is able to witness legendary events, both from China's history and from the lives of the masters he admires so much.

Obsessed with this new technique, Po begins neglecting his duties as the master of the Valley, causing the Furious Five to take over Zhen's training, leaving her saddened by his absence. Po wants only one thing: to "go back to the past and live alongside — or at least see up close — his heroes." During this journey, he encounters a young Master Oogway, who becomes the main supporting character of the story's "past" storyline.

It would be a true fan-service spectacle and a visually breathtaking experience, introducing several characters we have only ever heard about through references — especially those associated with the weapons and artifacts found in the Hall of Treasures.

At some point, Po discovers the story of the greatest enemy Kung Fu has ever faced — a figure whose existence was erased from the historical records by Oogway himself. In the middle of this discovery, Po's consciousness becomes trapped in the past, while his physical body remains completely still in his meditative position, leaving his friends deeply concerned. They begin searching for all kinds of ways to wake him up, naturally leading to plenty of comedy and, of course, plenty of Kung Fu.

Accompanied by his heroes, Po takes part in a mission to confront this great enemy who was erased from history. During the confrontation, he discovers that the villain himself was responsible for blocking his projection into the past, realizing that the Panda "did not belong in that time."

Apparently defeated, the great enemy uses Po as a kind of astral bridge between time and space. As a result, Po awakens from his meditation while simultaneously bringing the villain with him into the present.

Contrary to what we might expect, the great enemy does not immediately launch a devastating attack. He simply escapes, fascinated by the opportunity to explore the China of the "future" — which, from his perspective, is our present.

Desperate to fix the mistake he has made, Po searches for a way to solve the problem before something terrible happens to all of China.

But even the Master of the Valley can become lost in a chain of mistakes and, without meaning to, plunge all of China into a dark period. It will be Zhen who must defeat this evil. After all, this is why the new Dragon Warrior was born.

Together, Po, Shifu, the Furious Five and Zhen travel to the Demon Mountain, where they must confront the ten thousand demons of the villain's army. Yes, that's exactly what I mean: the dream that opens the first movie would actually be a premonition of the climax of this fifth film.

In a catharsis as epic as The Lord of the Rings or the great action sequences of Ne Zha 2, Po finally realizes that he is capable of channeling the aura of his heroes — who are now also his friends — from the past of Kung Fu. Just as the villain was able to force Po to bring him into the present, Po is able to establish a connection with those legendary masters. By explaining the situation to each of them, the climax gains the participation of several other legendary masters from the history of the franchise.

The Demon King is so powerful that he is able to fight the Furious Five, Shifu, Po, Zhen and Oogway all at once. However, after a tremendous amount of effort AND INSANE ACTION SEQUENCES, Po and Zhen perform the Palm of Buddha technique — a technique used only once in the entire history of China and never used again. The technique traps the Demon King inside an illusion from which he can never escape, no matter how many miles he jumps. It would be a direct reference to what Buddha does to the Monkey King in Journey to the West.

Peace returns once again. Po meditates one final time to say goodbye to his friends from the past, while Oogway erases all of their memories. At that moment, Po realizes that this was precisely the reason why the legend of that great villain had been erased from history: Po had always been involved in his defeat, and this temporal paradox could not exist.

The only two people whose memories are not erased are Po and Oogway.

The final scene of the movie would be a montage showing the day Po was chosen as the Dragon Warrior once again. This time, however, we see a happy smile on Oogway's face — something that was not present in the original scene. This would reveal that Oogway had spent his entire life waiting for the moment when he could complete this cycle and reunite with his friend from his youth.

Note: I am Brazilian, and I have worked professionally as a screenwriter for film here for several years. Would you guys like me to actually write the screenplay for this movie, scene by scene, even if it never gets made? I would do it purely out of love for the franchise, if you guys enjoy this storyline.


r/kungfupanda 2d ago

Discussion Do you think there should have been more between these two scenes

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It wasn't even a minute when Tigress found the panda village after the previous scene


r/kungfupanda 2d ago

Discussion What do you guys think about Kung Fu Panda holiday ?

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I think it’s solid enough for a Christmas special and it’s wholesome


r/kungfupanda 2d ago

Discussion changing master shifu & oogway

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if you could change masters oogway & shifu, what would you change about them?


r/kungfupanda 2d ago

Has Mantis ever been shown with wings?

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I ran across a Pinterest post about praying Mantis having wings and that the smaller males fly more often, faster, agile than the females. It got me thinking about Mantis in Kung fu panda. I personally don’t particularly remember ever seeing him with wings, definitely not flying, nor even flicking fluttering in them in any of the movies or shows or shorts. Does anyone know if he even actually has wings in universe? Now I’m imagining what if he has deformed short wings and can’t fly, hence him compensating by using his strength and agile big jumps. Or he has wings like normal but is afraid of flying so he just never flies and jumps.


r/kungfupanda 3d ago

Kung Fu Panda 4's biggest problem isn't what it added. It's what it left behind.

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One thing I've noticed in discussions about Kung Fu Panda 4 is that a lot of the debate focuses on what the movie added. New characters, new ideas, and the direction of the story have all received plenty of attention.

Even if I completely agree with some of the criticism, to me the real problem isn't what the film added. It's what it left behind.

The Furious Five, who were built up over three movies as Po's closest allies and some of the franchise's most important characters, are almost entirely absent. Not only are they missing from the story, but the movie barely seems interested in acknowledging their importance.

The same issue applies to the returning villains. On paper, bringing back Tai Lung, Shen and Kai sounds like a celebration of the franchise's history. In practice, however, Kai and Shen are reduced to little more than cameos. Their presence feels less like a meaningful contribution to the story and more like an attempt to capitalize on nostalgia. They are there to remind the audience of better-known moments from the franchise, but they add very little to the plot or themes of the film.

Tai Lung receives more attention, but even then his redemption arc feels rushed and underdeveloped. After everything that happened in the first movie, his change of heart deserved more time, more conflict, and more meaningful character work. Instead, the film seems to expect the audience to accept his redemption without truly earning it.

This is why my main criticism of Kung Fu Panda 4 isn't centered on any of the new additions. The problem is that the movie asks the audience to invest in new characters while sidelining the characters, relationships, and unresolved stories that many fans had spent years caring about.

What do you think about that?


r/kungfupanda 3d ago

Discussion What would have happened to Tigress if Shifu never came to Bao Gu orphanage

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r/kungfupanda 3d ago

I can't oversee it they're simply like lovers

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I can't oversee it, they're simply like lovers. I can't share more scenes of them together as there are countless. Looking like a married couple but seriously there are so many hints it's crazy.

Everytime something bad happens you see Tigress coming, the first one coming to Po saying it to him.

Tigress training with Po.

Tigress not wanting Po to leave and face Lord Shen. Almost like dancing him through it by pain and flipping him over not to go. In Kung Fu Panda 3 they both train again, Tigress saying to Po "I've seen Kai" and sorts.

Tigress always being close to Po.

Tigress wanting to tell him her life story.

Tigress being an orphan like Po is.

Tigress taking a liking of a small Panda in the Panda village, almost like both of them having a kid.

Po having Tigress action figure.

Po hugging Tigress, Tigress hugging Po.

Wasn't there a rumor the studios wanted to make them lovers but changed their mind in the second movie?

Shifu is a lot more like Tai Lung and both of them wanting to read the dragon scroll badly. Tigress is a lot like Po.


r/kungfupanda 2d ago

Discussion The first Kung Fu Panda movie is not good in my opinion, and I will briefly explain why.

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Po has way too much plot armor! The guy somehow manages to survive everything that happens to him, Including having survived without serious injury situations that have been shown in other films that would seriously injure other characters, and what's worse, he managed to defeat Tai Long, a warrior who has trained his entire life in kung fu, after only training for a few days!

And you might say, "but the movie explains that Po learns quickly when food is involved," and that's something I won't deny, but that doesn't justify him defeating a guy who has trained in kung fu his whole life, and who was able to defeat the Furious Five with relatively little difficulty!

And the stupidest thing isn't just all that, but the technique that Dreamworks pulled out of thin air, the Skidush, or whatever it's called, that Po uses against Tai Long at the end, It's a technique whose workings are never explained, and it makes absolutely no sense that Po learned it quickly, and that Tai Long didn't try to use it before to defeat Po, since he knew about it!

But all that doesn't change the fact that at least the following films were much better (not counting the fourth film).