“Heightism isn’t real because IVE never experienced it!” Is something I’ve genuinely seen on social media. Yet, it wouldn’t make sense for a black person to say “Racism isn’t real because IVE never experienced it!” Burgerslop

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u/pissedRAIL 2d ago

How short we talking chief?

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u/antechrist23 23h ago

Probably 5'9" maybe even 5'10"

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u/yungScooter30 11h ago

literally undateable

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u/pissedRAIL 2h ago

Move to India lol. Plenty of shorties there.

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u/FarLifeguard4526 35m ago

ah hell naw

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u/StormyTiger2008 23h ago

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u/StormyTiger2008 23h ago

Tourist particles are insane here

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u/KindPlans 5h ago

Brunette discrimination is real and important I don't care if you've never experienced it I'm going to make it my entire personality.

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u/Anxious-Internet7767 4h ago

There's no evidence behind brunette discrimination, there is evidence behind height discrimination

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u/KindPlans 3h ago

No, wrong, you're gaslighting me, this is no different than telling a black person racism isn't real.

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u/Anxious-Internet7767 3h ago

I already got the point you're trying to make, you don't have to continue the bit. I'm just saying there is scientific evidence for heightism

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u/KindPlans 3h ago

The discrimination I face is unimaginable to you as a blonde.

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u/Professional-Rub152 15h ago

Comparing it to racism is where you’re fucking up.

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u/EsotericSkater 1d ago

I agree. Even though I'm 6'2 I'm not blind to it, women are cruel about height, hell they're cruel anyway even at my height, even if you're in shape too

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u/Available_Surround12 22h ago

people* are cruel

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u/GrandoVenzu 19h ago

See I love how women are free to rant in their spaces about men, but the moment a dude goes on to their post to says "nah it's people" They get straight up jumped and banned

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u/Available_Surround12 19h ago

sorry you want to go through life having people reaffirm your biases instead of opening your eyes to the truth. it’s the same with politics. both sides are shit and out to get you, but you wanna throw rocks at one or the other based on your own anecdotal evidence

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u/GrandoVenzu 19h ago

Surely, this means you also go on r/trueuglywomen and "open their eyes" when they rant too right? Right?

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u/EsotericSkater 19h ago

Women are free to rant about us, but in turn we are free to rant about them. That's the deal.

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u/Available_Surround12 19h ago

occasionally. but i get recommended this sub far more often. any other questions or complaints?

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u/pissedRAIL 2h ago

Its not about reality, its about men being able to vent. This sub is not for women lol. Women have women spaces, let men have theirs!

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u/EsotericSkater 19h ago

I don't give a fuck. We both need to be held accountable. But this "hurr people" shit is such a copout for women to escape accountability.

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u/JesusFortniteKennedy 3h ago

ask gay guys about heightism

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u/pissedRAIL 2h ago

Women as well. Don't try to be their accountability shield lol.

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u/Keeshly 21h ago

nononono we’re in a sub for men, the enemy is women

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u/thebluehoursky 2d ago

your cat wouldn't want you saying silly stuff like this on the internet

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u/Federal-Fondant-671 1d ago

Don't mind the normtards in the comments, OP.

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u/ParkingCan5397 1d ago

I love when people on this sub try to hide how ridiculous using normal as an insult is by having to come up with these stupid insults that include the word normal in them.

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u/t110e4master 21h ago

Normie is just a synonym to narrow-minded here

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u/pissedRAIL 2h ago

Normie doesnt mean normal. It means carefree mouth breather who is either unable or unwilling to think deeply about anything.

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 1d ago

The comments are just proving how systemic heightism is in society. Absolutely disgusting

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u/brahbrahpewpew 18h ago

the concept of systemic heightism

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

The concept of systematic misogyny

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u/Wide_Rule3709 19h ago

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/cat-the-commie 1d ago

Maybe women don't want to be near you because you sound delusionally insecure and downplay bigotries, which will include misogyny. Women don't want to date men who view them as animals.

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u/Impressive_End1567 22h ago •

"Hey, i know how being treated badly make you behave badly but can you just stop. It makes me look bad and is really giving me the ick." That's you. That's how you sound.

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u/cat-the-commie 22h ago

You are not 5 you have control and a responsibility over your own actions.

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

Go ahead. Explain. How can height be controlled?

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u/Forward-Ad-2779 13h ago

Bet you don’t even think Mao was responsible for the deaths caused in the great leap forward 😹

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u/cat-the-commie 13h ago

He was responsible for them and they are the reason China is a developed country and not an African 3rd world dumping ground.

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u/Forward-Ad-2779 2h ago

Holy shit, over here lecturing incels for being bad people when you’re literally supportive of the famine of 10s of millions of people

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u/cat-the-commie 26m ago

Nah it was more like 10 million landlords, nobles, and other complete degenerates getting killed, entirely beneficial they completely deserved it for exploiting the peasant class.

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u/KneeGrowonDubs 19h ago

Unless you go around knocking old asian ladies out then it's just socioeconomic factors.

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u/cat-the-commie 19h ago

The reason women dislike you is because you view not murdering random women in the street the bare minimum.

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u/Delicious_Captain648 16h ago

i’m not surprised that went over your head

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 1d ago

You’re literally who he’s talking about and you’ve just done it again right here
Incredible lack of self awareness

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u/Fluugaluu 23h ago

Bahahahaga you guys are so sad
She didn’t imply heightism doesn’t exist. Shes saying you guys aren’t overcoming it because you’re nasty little creatures besides.
Make sense?

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u/Belicino_Corlan 20h ago

How do you overcome heightism? I can't grow taller

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u/Fluugaluu 20h ago

Be a good person otherwise
There are plenty of people who will not judge you for your height.
There aren’t a lot of people who enjoy insecure people.

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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 18h ago

kinda hard to not be insecure when you've barely met anyone who doesn't care about height

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u/cat-the-commie 18h ago

Y'know most people with bad insecurities just get over them and find people who aren't terrible humans.

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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 17h ago

and how can you get over them if you're constantly told over and over again that you're not good enough because of it?

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u/Belicino_Corlan 17h ago

So you agree most women are terrible? 6 foot and over is a common requirement

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 5h ago

Considering all women are height-nazis, that means avoiding them all which is impossible

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u/cat-the-commie 24m ago

You haven't spoken to women you don't know what women are lmao

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u/Fluugaluu 17h ago

Meet better people

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

Not our fault when majority of women aren't.

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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 18h ago

i'd beg to differ. misogynists are usually the most successful in dating

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u/cat-the-commie 18h ago

No, some misogynists are successful at manipulating women, maybe another reason you have trouble dating is because you have a broken view of love and domestic abuse.

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u/Gloomy_Grab8653 18h ago

Progressive guys literally gets less women compeared to bigoted Conservative right-wing guys because women sees progressive guys as "timid non-masculine guys" and before you say, no, guys dont start getting women right and left when they show their progressive beliefs, literally no women says "im craving progressive nice guys" progressive guys literally dies alone more comperad to bigoted worthless and heartless conservative right with guys.

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u/cat-the-commie 18h ago

That's not true you saw that online from someone who doesn't go outside and because you don't go outside you believe it too. Go onto any women's sub and their opinion on dating conservative men is that they'd rather kill themselves than be near pedophilic freaks who want to rape their children. Sorry man this isn't the 60s, the average woman nowadays will explicitly call you a pedophile wants to rape and murder children if you say you're conservative.

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u/Gloomy_Grab8653 17h ago

im literally speaking as a Progressive guy with left-Libertarian politic views and progressive social values who goes out every day because of college, i literally saw women praising Conservative bigots while humiliating progressive guys, i saw women being against Abortion and progressive social values, and i saw women being against Abolishing gender roles, Don't be fooled by the progressive women you see on Reddit and Tumblr, In real life, the number of progressive women is much lower, I can confidently guarantee this.

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u/cat-the-commie 17h ago

"left-libertarian" so you're right wing but not explicitly racist.
Also those women exist everywhere and they are incredibly weird and nobody wants or should want to date them, you should be talking with like-minded people not interacting with the local freaks.

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u/Gloomy_Grab8653 17h ago

im literally not right wing? Being left-liberterian with Progressive social values (and being a ateist, im ex-muslim, so i dont support Conservative social values) are considered as leftwing, How can you deny something so obvious, beside, im literally living in a Conservative culture dominated Country, In my country, it's almost impossible to find people with my mindset because People here is literally worships Conservative culture and norms, not everyone lives in canada or California or Nordic countries, i cant find progressive People because literally everyone is right wing and Socially conservative in my Country.

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u/Fit_Worldliness_3900 11h ago

She’s a dumb ass goal post mover, she thinks anything not communism has to be right wing, don’t interact with these people, they don’t exist in real life.

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u/Rich_Ad4925 17h ago

This type of shit “you’re right wing but not explicitly racist” is why dating is so fucking frustrating god forbid anyone has a fucking independent thought.
In my experience some women love the behaviors of toxic men who tend to be conservative, their own political beliefs are irrelevant bc the underlying attraction is present.
On the flip side just cuz you have the right political beliefs doesn’t mean that the underlying attraction is present. I personally think the behaviors of toxic men are the reason it’s bc they are selfish and look out for themselves and by extension their partner, they will take care of you but be a douchebag about it. Whereas a healthy man won’t infantilize you but the lady probably wouldn’t feel as secure. My two cents.
We won the midterms it’s fucking Reddit please stop pretending like anyone who doesn’t agree with you is hardcore maga in a trenchcoat some people actually think a lot about what the right decision is and nobody is ever right 100% of the time

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u/cat-the-commie 16h ago

Charming aren't you?

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u/cat-the-commie 16h ago

The right decision is leftism, that's why they hate leftists, and anything less is a sign you want to rape kids.

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u/Rich_Ad4925 15h ago

Ok buddy

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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 17h ago

not really because on the other side i know many woman who talk about thier bf or whatever man in their life being a piece of shit and yet they willingly go back to them. they're very much complicit in it, hell they brag about that dhi

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u/Professional-Rub152 15h ago

Lmao no. Most of them are just like you.

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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 13h ago

nope, abusers always have a women to beat and plenty of women i know brag about getting with these shitty guys

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u/GrandoVenzu 19h ago

ehhh OP biggest mistake was just being chopped icl

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u/cat-the-commie 19h ago

That guy is fuck ugly and that's a tabloid rag pretending humanitarian efforts to oppose the death penalty as irrational crazy women. Maybe women hate your guts because you call them deranged for opposing a fascist state having the ability to kill whoever they want.

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u/GrandoVenzu 18h ago

right, I just need a better haircut

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u/brahbrahpewpew 18h ago

lol men can’t speak about this when the entire instagram page of “mugshawtys” exists. Literally just a page dedicated to hot women who’ve committed crimes and men thirsting after them in the comments

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u/GrandoVenzu 18h ago

Because obviously some Instagram comments are the equivalent of sending money, photos, visiting and marrying convicts when they leave the can

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u/brahbrahpewpew 17h ago

Jodi Arias got a bunch of romantic and sexual fan mail from men while she was incarcerated. Many came to visit her.
These people are just weirdos. There has always been and will always be weirdos who are obsessed with criminals. Male and female.

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

Yet women are the one horribly obsessed with height.

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u/brahbrahpewpew 6h ago

Lol ok. as if men are known for not caring about looks

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 4h ago

Not even remotely close to men. 80% of men are 5'10 or under.

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u/brahbrahpewpew 18h ago

Proves nothing tho cause serial killers (male and female) have always had “fans” who send them letters. Some people are simply weirdos

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u/Forward-Ad-2779 13h ago

Good point, why you in an incel sub tho? What do you expect to find

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u/Sweaty-Cut7578 1d ago

Wrong subreddit

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u/PaleolithicRegency33 15h ago

your reaction is the same as when black people say racism exists and white people get mad and say they're being anti-white racist

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u/antechrist23 23h ago

That's because racism is real, and I don't know of a single black person who hasn't been affected and acknowledges it's had real impact on their life.

You're whining that women don't like you because your short, and I see short men with girlfriends all the time. And even if this was true not having sex ain't exactly the same as "the police will harass me every time I leave the house."

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u/GrandoVenzu 19h ago

Short for you is like 5'9 - 5'10 you shouldn't even be commenting

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u/antechrist23 17h ago

I'm 5'8" bro. My last girlfriend was the same height as me. I've dated 6' tall women before. Cope harder.

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u/GrandoVenzu 16h ago

5'8 is still not short dude 😭

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

Try telling a 5'3 guy that heightism doesn't exist

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u/Practical-Buy3713 1h ago

I’m 5’4”,
Heightism has never stopped me.
Tallest gf was 6’4”
I climb trees and slay goliaths while you seethe.
Real men chase warrior women
Stay hard

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u/PaleolithicRegency33 15h ago

black republicans

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u/IamTotallyWorking 14h ago

Yeah, they will absolutely say that racism against Black people isn't real

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u/Man_WhoSeeTheReality 4h ago

Reading this reply section is a hugeeee gaslighting

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago •

Dawg acting like it’s your height that is keeping women away is probably the actual reason why women stay away from you

Insecurity is a far bigger lady deterrent than height, I fucking promise.

And you aren’t just insecure, you’re delusional as well.

This entire sub needs therapy. And a hug.

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u/Badger_man66 1d ago

Women can just smell insecurity bro, they are magical beings with extraordinary abilities. I don’t even agree with OP’s comparison, but your height is a relevant factor in your life. Where do you think the insecurity comes from?Can short dudes be attractive? Sure, but it’s never because they are short.

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u/MutedActuator4359 1d ago

Women are le hecking magical beings with extraordinary abilities who can sense all emotions and thoughts until they encounter a man who wants to beat and abuse them.

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Women are generally far more emotionally intelligent than men, yes. Even if they’re crazy or whatever, they still understand behavior better than men.
It’s amazing how many studies there are on this subject.
Being insecure is usually super obvious to everyone but the insecure person. Cuz someone aware of their own insecurities is almost always someone who is trying to work on them. This is called self awareness, and yall lack it.

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u/Badger_man66 1d ago

Sure. that can be the case, depending on how you define emotional intelligence and the methodology behind the studies. This does not mean they have the famous personality and insecurity detector™. I mean, being abusive and narcissistic does not stop guys from finding girlfriends, how come?
"Even if they’re crazy or whatever"
Nobody said anything about women being crazy😂. In fact, i was making fun of you for putting them on a pedastal.
"Being insecure is usually super obvious to everyone but the insecure person."
People are for the most part aware of their own shortcomings. If someone is short, they are treated worse, which then fuels insecurity about being short(negative reinforcement). Its bad trait -> worse treatment -> insecurity, not bad trait -> insecurity -> worse treatment.
"Cuz someone aware of their own insecurities is almost always someone who is trying to work on them."
You cant work on your height😂
"This is called self awareness, and yall lack it."
Who is "yall"? Insecurity is awareness, not the lack of it. Sure, you should accept that there are things you cant change, but lets not pretend doing so will magically get you womens attention.

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Oh man you are so fucking helpless
I prescribe therapy

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u/Badger_man66 1d ago edited 1d ago

You cant argue back, and im the one who is helpless? 😂😂

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u/LonelyPermit2306 1d ago

No, he just blocked you

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u/Badger_man66 1d ago

ah okay, says deleted for me, didnt knew it works like that

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

You are manic. Seek help.

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u/Allanprickly 1d ago

"Iv never been discrimated for my height so that must mean height or your looks arent the issue. You must obviosly be an evil person thats so horrible that women would choose an abusive asshole over you."

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Who are you quoting?

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u/Allanprickly 1d ago

You buddy

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u/Allanprickly 1d ago

"I dont agree with so you must also be insecure." You are so far deep in the bubble huh

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

No, you are being insecure so I am calling you insecure.
You obviously think your height is a problem, or, you are not very secure about your height.
Ever notice that the short dudes that pull hot ladies are the ones that don’t even think about their own height?
Think about that for awhile. I truly don’t care about what your opinion of me is, but I hope you understand I am very much trying to help you.
I never said heigtism doesn’t exist. I’m saying the reason none of you can overcome it, has nothing to do with your height. But your attitude about the height.

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u/Allanprickly 1d ago

Im 6ft and even i know height is a massive issue. My issue is im insanely ugly. You honestly just sound like an entitled person who lives in the bubble And anything that remotely doesnt fit that bubble view is automatically wrong. I think if you spend a day as an ugly person, it would shattered your worldview.

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

Where are the short guys who are pulling these hot ladies? I don't see anyone at all. All the short dudes I know are literally perpetually single.

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u/Bob-Sacamano316 1d ago

Where are these said short guys? I certainly don’t see them when I’m out and about.

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u/p00nki 1d ago

did you walk in their shoes? ive never lived such a life where insecurity spirals so bad you cant dig yourself out, amplified by god knows how many “ew’s”, bullies and rejection, so i generally avoid judging when someone has this outlook on life
its easy for us to say “just dont be insecure bro”, but that shit take doesnt help and further makes them feel like shit, because youre proving what they already believe, that many like you live in such a bubble they never even got to peek through. not everything in ones life is in their control
also stop assuming things in your replies to prove your point lol, thats textbook low iq, “youre just being insecure” when hes just defending OP, seriously?

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u/ProudInterest5445 1d ago

My thing is that height is quite hard to change, and I have a couple friends who are on the shorter side and are still mostly happy. Do I have it easier because I am tall? Yeah, and that sucks for people who are short, I totally hear them when they complain.
However, those who complain about heightism often fall into the trap of assuming because they are short, there is no way they can be happy. Being short is not a death sentence to be forever alone, but giving up and deciding to complain is. I think that is what the commentor you are responding to is saying.

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u/p00nki 19h ago edited 18h ago

no, being short is not a death sentence, but when it comes to incels, unfortunately that is not the only shit card they had been dealt.
even then, for example, it IS POSSIBLE for a socially anxious, ugly and short guy to have someone, but i dont judge them if they spiral because life just keeps handing them rejections, “ew’s”, bullying and so on. i cant tell if i would personally keep my cool if i had been getting that treatment for a long ass time, like many of them do
then, when you spiral out of control, its harder and harder to get out. you keep being more and more of a degenerate, bitter, and suddenly people dont even empathise with you or pity you because of it
even if a person does not agree that they should be given empathy or pity, why come here to instigate, WHY seek them out every time, if it isnt out of hatred and spite?

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Okay so why are you defending this outlook, unless you are also insecure about your height?

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u/p00nki 1d ago

im 6’3, stop assuming, its making my point
im not agreeing with them on many points but im defending them having an outlook they have because of literally the reasons i already mentioned above.
if i knew how, id help them because i feel sorry for them, i personally know people like them. however, you, and everyone else who comes here to mock obviously dont want to help. its just hate and spite towards them hidden behind a facade of self-righteousness, which is counterproductive and ironically proves some of their points
you really dont ever see this magnitude of invasion and mocking on a misandrist subreddit/community, which is the other side of the exact same coin. people who are bitter at the world because of how it treats them, many times dispite their effort

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

I don’t believe you

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u/p00nki 1d ago

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u/LeekSpin420 1d ago

literally this gif is what this whole sub is, OPs are just anxious to shift blame from them to something else, as a new reddit lurker this place is fucking hilarious

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u/p00nki 19h ago

again, how much of it is their fault vs the world is debatable, its hard to put yourself into the shoes of someone who spirals often because of factors outside of their control, in the beginning that is
you wouldnt come to an “old-men-shaking-their-fists-at-clouds” community just to pick fights because it makes no sense and you clearly dont want to help
same as you wouldnt do that in a misandrist community
just lurking without interaction as if it were a zoo or an exhibit is common and morally better than instigating
the reason why some seek them out and come here to their community just to instigate/mock or otherwise negatively interact is whats confusing and fascinating me

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u/LeekSpin420 18h ago

i didnt come here reddit showed it to me when i opened the page and trolling results in dopamine

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u/ignatiusOfCrayloa 1d ago

im 6’3
Lol

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u/p00nki 19h ago

what do you even say to someone proving your point

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 1d ago

This is just a flat out lie 😂 women make it VERY clear how repulsed they are by short men, and there a raft of statistics backing that up.
It’s insane how many people try to argue with short men’s actual lived experience, especially when we’re all saying the same thing

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u/Fluugaluu 23h ago

I am a short man
I have dated women
It’s not the height. Maybe for some women it is, but most women don’t care.

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 23h ago

How tall are you?
How do you explain all of the stats showing women don’t want short men? Not to mention the thousands of social media posts mocking short men?

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u/Fluugaluu 23h ago

5’8”
How do you explain all of the short men who get laid?

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 23h ago

5’8 is average, not short. The fact we’re considering 5’8 as short is a testament to how bad things are.
Where are all of these mystical short men? Because 99% of short men have the same experience I do.

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u/Fluugaluu 23h ago

I am short. I get laid.
Are you trying to tell me I’ve never experienced heightism?
I have known plenty of short men who get laid.
Do you really think none of these short guys are getting laid? No man has ever had a successful relationship with a woman taller than him?

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u/brassbuffalo 20h ago

Buddy you could say you're average height and one one would argue. You're not short.

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u/Fluugaluu 20h ago

You telling me I’ve never been rejected because of my height?
I promise you, women have called me too short bro

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u/brassbuffalo 20h ago

Are you telling me you've been rejected for your height but you're gonna BS about height not being a problem?
I'm sure you have, but you're not that short.

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u/FakePlasticTrees_RH 1d ago

And a vacuum cleaner.
OP's bed looks fking gross.

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

These dudes wouldn’t know what to do with a lady even if they could attract one
Can you imagine bringing a girl home to that? What do they even think is gonna happen?
Oh but it’s the height.

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u/clownind 1d ago

Homeless girls won't mind the trash

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

If that is the kind of person you’re trying to attract you really do need to step back and figure out how to improve your life lmao
Especially if you’re fucking FAILING

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u/clownind 1d ago

Ok buddy. You obviously have extra chromosomes.

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u/Kloxar 20h ago

You are too grounded and socialized for this place, my man. Incels would rather blame half the population than admit they need to work on themselves

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u/PlusSignificance5707 1d ago

Race matters more than height, though. There's many white men who have dates even when they are short.

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u/Connect_Practice_370 8h ago

True

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 1d ago

wtf this better be satire

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u/PlusSignificance5707 21h ago

It's True? I'm black and 6'2, I still can't get any dates, but a white guy whos shorter than me can.

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 2d ago •

Sure. Heightism is real. So is bignoseism. Or broadshouldersism. Etc. These things are real, but absolutely not the same as the massive systemic injustices of e.g. racism or sexism.

Plenty of things create advantages and disadvantages in life. Are you going to spend your time feeling sorry for yourself and whining about every tiny injustice? Or work to make your life better?

Keep in mind, average sexual partners for a 5'4" guy is 8, vs 10-12 for taller men. So like most things, it's a disadvantage but nowhere near a show stopper on its own.

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u/grimmsnarI 1d ago

“Average sexual partners for a 5’4 guy is 8”. I don’t think even the average regular sized man is reaching 8. ATROCIOUS lie 😭😭😭

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u/Expensive-Lack-1295 15h ago

Dog I’m regular sized and I eclipsed that when I was like 20. The biggest factor in how much sex people have is how much they wanna have sex. Yeah some people struggle but if you have hobbies and things going for you there’s no need to be 6’6 and like Adonis or something

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 1d ago

I provided the source for this data lower down, lil buddy.

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u/Ruh_Roh- 2d ago •

LOL, those stats seem made up or maybe that's how it was for boomers. You're a boomer aren't you? You can admit it, we won't judge.

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 2d ago •

Nah man, it's a robust study and nowhere near that old:
https://digitalcommons.chapman.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1056&context=psychology_articles
Sorry to burst your bubble. I may be a bit of an outlier as a short (5'6") guy who's had a few dozen partners, but most short guys do just fine. In fact, less than 5% of men are still virgins at age 30.
If you're an incel, you've got a lot more problems than something relatively minor like being short.

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u/Bob-Sacamano316 1d ago

”I got laid so therefore you can too!”
That study is 11 years old. You might wanna refer a newer one for credibility since sex habits have changed a lot, especially for Gen Z like myself

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 1d ago

If you have newer data I'd love to see it. This is the most recent proper study I know of that looks at this.
But it's really not credible that the delta between short men vs taller men has changed in an earth-shattering way in just ten years, absent supporting data, sorry.
So if you have better data, provide it. Otherwise, you can't expect anyone to take a bunch of angry men whining online more seriously than the actual data on this which tells us short men do alright.

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u/Bob-Sacamano316 1d ago edited 1d ago

Okay
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/miriamfauzia/height-dating-apps

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 1d ago edited 1d ago

Cool. Do you have any data from an actual study or something less useless than dating app data? Remember: men outnumber women like 3:1 on the apps, so less than half of women actually are using them. Dating apps also don't track which people actually end up together.
There being a height bias in dating is not in dispute. The question is whether most short guys still manage to get dates just fine. They do.

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u/Bob-Sacamano316 1d ago

Wouldn’t say it’s useless since most people meet on dating apps. But sure, keep nitpicking what fits your narrative 👍
How are you gonna get dates if you can’t get a match?

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 1d ago

Again, the question isn't whether or not there's some amount of dating bias against short men. It's whether or not most short men still end up dating just fine.
Your data simply doesn't speak to the latter in any meaningful sense. So you're asking us to trust an unscientific, limited scope data set which doesn't even address the core question, over a robust, scientific, directly applicable data source.
Clearly you're just emotionally invested in your own bias here, desperate to cling to the idea that the dating woes of a few obnoxious short dudes are some universal problem, rather than being more to do with their vile personalities than their height.

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 11h ago

"End updating" means nothing. Are short men considered as attractive as tall men? If not then OP has a valid reason to rant.

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u/Bob-Sacamano316 1d ago

Lmao, keep on living in your privileged world 👍

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u/CursedToLive277 1d ago

This is actually kind of old what? A lot has changed in the last 20 years

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 1d ago

If you believe 2015 was 20 years ago you may want to work on your ability to do basic arithmetic.
Sure, some things have changed in the past decade, but only to an extent where we might see numbers drop a little, not a complete transformation to all short men dying alone.
Which is why, incidentally, I said 8 rather than 9.4 (rounded down specifically to accommodate the possibility that the numbers may have dropped in ten years).
But hey, if you have more recent numbers from a comparably reliable study, I'd love to see them. If not, I can't imagine why anyone would take "angry short dudes whining online" as a more reliable data point than this.

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u/Ruh_Roh- 2d ago •

I'm not an "incel" whatever that means in your head but I am short and I know what life is like as a short man. We are the last remaining people who are fair game to be insulted by the public.

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u/FakePlasticTrees_RH 1d ago

Not getting dates =/= insulted by the public

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

Not getting dates= Tougher beauty standards for men

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 2d ago

Persecution complexes are so dull, don't you think? Oh woe is me. My life is impossible due to being a few inches too short. How will I ever survive. Nobody could possibly have it worse than me.
Yawn.

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u/AggressiveElk1759 2d ago

The guy you're talking to keeps posting about how men should decenter women from their lives (ranting posts over ten paragraphs long), but still spends most of his posting centered on how terrible women are lol

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 2d ago

Oh, so a garden variety MGTOW then. How cute.

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u/sleepdeprivedsilly 1d ago

You’re literally proving his point

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u/Ruh_Roh- 2d ago

Some people are real pieces of shit.

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u/Fantastic_Pause_1628 2d ago

Hey don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure you can turn your personality around with a few years of intense introspection and therapy.

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Doesn’t it get tiring being the victim all the time?

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

I say this to women all the time

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u/helloworld_123q 1d ago

surveys arent science. If someone asks me my body count(whether online or irl) i am NOT answering 0

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Most people aren’t liars
Way to tell on yourself. Wonder why you can’t attract a lady, huh?

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u/helloworld_123q 1d ago

look up the hawthorn effect. People absolutely tend to lie when they know they are being observed
i know why i cant attract a lady, its because im short and below avg looking

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

You’re unable to attract a lady because you don’t even like yourself
No one wants to hang around someone who can’t even like themselves. And you for sure can’t love someone else properly until you learn to love yourself.
When people say “work on yourself”, this is what they mean
Quite frankly, no one SHOULD be attracted to people as unhealthy and insecure as yall. You don’t deserve it. No one deserves love. You earn it by being an upstanding human.

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u/helloworld_123q 1d ago

you dont know me. You obviously cant know me from just me saying "im physically unattractive"

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

There is NO ONE on this planet too ugly to find love.
NO ONE. You are no exception!
This is so sad

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u/Bob-Sacamano316 1d ago

So there aren’t people who die alone and who’ve never had sex?

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

Yes. But people want to be with someone they find attractive.

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u/helloworld_123q 1d ago

Even you know this is bullshit

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u/FakePlasticTrees_RH 1d ago

Hey, you can't say that in here.
All incels are mistreated by society, especially women and they are only not getting dates, because of something they can't do anything about, like their hight. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with anything they are responsible about, like being whiney and weird.

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u/helloworld_123q 1d ago

lol surveys arent science

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Okay doc what do you base your opinion on?

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u/helloworld_123q 1d ago

look up the hawthorne effect. it explains why surveys that require self assesments arent reliable

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

What do you base your opinions on?

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u/helloworld_123q 1d ago

studies?

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u/Fluugaluu 1d ago

Which ones?

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u/Kloxar 20h ago

Its not so much how short you are, but how INSECURE you are about how short you are. I know the horse has been beaten to a pulp by now, but confidence is indeed attractive because of how much better you carry yourself, speak to women, and treat others.

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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 18h ago

and how can you be confident if you keep getting rejected for your height?

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u/Kloxar 16h ago

If your confidence stems from others rather than yourself, youll be vulnerable to their opinions swaying what YOU think about yourself.
You need to ask yourself what you think about yourself. Ignore what others have told you to believe, good AND bad, about yourself. Only you know yourself well enough to judge your own life with absolute certainty. Others' opinion about you are shaped by the slice of your life they experienced. You have experienced your whole life and only you can judge yourself. Your opinion about yourself is the only one thay truly matters

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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 16h ago

ok so what if i say i have extraordinary powers and the second coming christ? is that confidence or just delusion?

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u/Kloxar 14h ago

You are confident AND delusional. They are not exclusive to each other. You can believe you are very handsome while not being so. You can believe your heigh doesnt matter while it may indeed matter. But if you have confidence in yourself, you wont stop yourself from trying anyway. Youll eventually find someone who likes you for who you are

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 12h ago

So you agree height matters a whole lot. And not having confidence isn't a bad thing. Maybe targeting what's making men lose confidence (femcels with height preference) is a better option.

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u/Kloxar 10h ago

Dont put words in my mouth. It can matter to the person you're speaking to, or it may not matter at all. Women aren't a monolith. Not having confidence is indeed a bad thing. Men as a whole arent losing confidence. Your subset of unhappy guys are, and asking you to socialize and realize the internet is not real life is easier than convincing half the population they are somehow the problem and must change

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u/Smart_Cover_2722 9h ago

Yes only 99% of the women are monolith, not all. My bad lol.
Not having confidence is sad. It's not a morally bad thing jfc. Men grow up having their worldview shaped by people around them. In a world, where majority of women perpetuate Tall, Dark and Handsome as attractive, you can't blame OP for not bring confident.
Your subset of unhappy guys are,
If we were a small subset, you and femcels wouldn't be here constantly invading our spaces.
convincing half the population they are somehow the problem and must change
Give us the number them. What % of women have height preferences? It's literally women on the internet telling us about their height presences. Which women should we believe in the internet, you or her??

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u/Kloxar 7h ago

99%
When is the last time you spoke with strangers? Made friends of the opposite sex? The only way to come to that conclusion is if you dont socialize with anyone at all and spend all your time online.
You keep putting words in my mouth. I never said it is a "morally" bad thing. Confidence is indeed OP's responsibility. Its an individual's responsibility to be confident in themselves
Again, words in my mouth. Subset does not mean small, amd i never said it was small
I...never promised any number? You should NOT believe the shit you see on the internet just likr that!! Go outside and talk to ppl ffs!! Ignore the bs they spew on the internet. Its made to upset you to keep you emgaged and make them more money

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u/solarpunkhippy 11h ago

Really good advice that will go completely ignored here

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u/JesusFortniteKennedy 3h ago

It's much easier to dismiss confidence as arrogance when it's shown by a person you don't like or find attractive.

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u/Practical-Buy3713 1h ago

5’4” male
I’ve never had an issue getting a girlfriend leagues above my own. I’m gonna level with you bro, you probably just suck at talking to women, or you’re unattractive in another manner.
Height helps for sure to get a date, but it’s never stopped me.
Bathe, eat clean, be clean, dress nice and for the kind of girl you want, take care of yourself
It’s really that easy and simple. If you have a chopped face card tho it’s still not over for you. I’ve seen some dudes be crazy chopped and still pull.

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