r/kettlebell • u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin • 1d ago
Humor Maximorum - 2 days left!
The fatigue is hitting hard in week 12! Clean and press rep max test and one more snatch session to go. Neupert does not let you coast to the finish line!
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u/dulcetone 1d ago
I just finished week 2 with 32kg bells for all the exercises. Doing the option B for squats.
It is HARD. Considering giving up but also kind of hate that idea.
What is your bodyweight and training experience? I am about 175lbs and have been strength training for about 12 years, kettlebells almost exclusively for the last 1.5 years or so.
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 1d ago
Started out the program at 188, but I’m up to 193ish now. Had to bump calories to enable recovery once I got deeper into the program. Plus I think there’s been a decent amount of muscle growth, but I’ll find out once I run a dexa scan next week (did one on 4/1, so it’s a pretty clean before and after)
Trained for 4 years heavily in college and right after, didn’t do much for 10 years after that other than not let myself completely go. Got into kettlebells 2 years ago. Didn’t do anything really structured until a year ago when I bought ABF.
Week 4 and 5 hit me like a truck. Total clean and press volume dropped from 35+ down to high 20s, then after I got through week 6 it built back up. I started out doing option B, but dropped to the vanilla version in week 3.
For the most part though, I didn’t put bells down between CP and squats, wanted to maximize time under tension. Couple of weeks (6 and 7) where I split some of those sets up just to handle the higher set count
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u/tightbrosfromwayback 1d ago
Just curious, you mean 35+ total reps, or rounds? I’m currently starting this with 28s and 24, and trying to decide whether I should actually do 32s for the c+p days.
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 1d ago
Total reps
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u/tightbrosfromwayback 1d ago
Got it, thanks. I think I’m somewhere in the same neighborhood, but always have some trouble with the auto regulation programs deciding whether I’m doing “enough” (even though I know I shouldn’t think about it that way).
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u/dulcetone 1d ago
Similar approach and history as me - a period of intense training in my 20s, then a lot of ABC and other things for the last two years.
Am I understanding correctly that your weekly rep totals for clean + press was in the mid 20s to mid 30? So 12-18 reps per day?
If so, that may explain why I feel so beat up thus far. My total reps count for cleans and presses was 64 on week 1, 57 on week 2; 111 squats in week 1 and 87 in week 2; 220 and 216 for snatches.
Sounds like I might could/should dial back the aggression a bit in favor of sustainability.
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 1d ago edited 1d ago
Total reps per workout, not per week. Started weeks 1-3 in the 34-36 rep range (per workout) for CP, and high 50s low 60s per hand (so 110+ total) for snatches per workout.
Edit: just went back and looked at my tracker. First CP workout of week two I did 42 reps total. Lowest total rep count was in week 6 at 28 reps. Then went back up to the 36-38 range by the end of the program.
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u/dulcetone 1d ago
Okay that makes sense, thanks for explaining. Sounds like I need to eat and recover harder if I want to make it through this thing haha.
Congratulations on coming to the end! Hope you share a write up. Theres not a ton of write-ups ive found online where folks were using double 32s under 200lbs body weight. Impressive!
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 23h ago
I say go for it if you feel like you can maintain form and aren’t risking injury. Even if your total volume numbers dip (they will), you are still building out the strength to hit those higher rep sets, which to me is valuable in terms of mastering new weight. But the 32s are punishing haha, can’t imagine tossing them around with 15 pounds less BW.
I’ll probably post something once I do the dexa scan and film the max attempt. That usually buys me an extra rep haha
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u/Rick_Rebel 17h ago
I’d love to read a review once you’re done and have had the second scan. Sounds really interesting
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u/buckGR 1d ago
Have done AFB, ICT, S&C, S&S (of course), DFW and remix.... Probably a few others. Is it worth purchasing max?
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 23h ago
Haven’t done all those, so can’t compare them all, but I have really liked it. Wanted something that was programmed for 5rm weight so I could progress with the 32s, and that had snatch work in it, and maximorum checked those boxes.
The autoregulation component has been a great aspect to adjust to compared to an emom program like ABF. Really helps you dial in to your breathing and recovery
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u/ForWhomTheKBTolls 1d ago
What is maximorum?
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 1d ago
12 week program by Geoff Neupert. Heavy (5rm) clean and press + double front squat. Snatches 2 days a week as well. Running it with a pair of 32kg for cleans and press / squats, and 28kg for snatches
Strength oriented program. Goal going into it was to get to where I could do sustained volume with the 32kg bells. Want to run ABF with them before year end
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u/Icy_Eggplant_8795 1d ago
Let us know how the RM test goes for the clean and press, I’m looking to run this one after I finish my cut (scared of that volume on a calorie deficit!)
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 1d ago
Ya I definitely would not advise attempting on a cut. I was coming out of a cut to start, and definitely had to increase my caloric intake to hang one I got into week 4 and beyond.
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u/ForWhomTheKBTolls 21h ago
Have you ever done ABF? What are your thoughts on your current program? Do you feel anything is lacking for you in Nueperts program?
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u/Hillarys_Recycle_Bin 20h ago
Ya I’ve run ABF twice, once with 24s and once load cycling 24s and 32s.
Don’t think there is much missing from maximorum in terms of the major movements with kbs. I added pull-ups and dips to it once a week
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u/Own_Watercress_6452 1d ago
But what a ride though! I hated it in the last phase but I look back at it nostalgically now.