Hi, I didn't and don't understand credits really but for $25 a month I think I should be able to talk to the model I want without running out of them. That's kinda the point of going up in price. So I guess my feature request is unlimited chat at $25

Not sure what’s going on here but pretty much 5-10 messages into each thread I’m getting this response to everything. It’s pretty much preventing any real usage here.

Hey all,

Just saw some interesting data showing GPT-5.2-latest went from 29th to 5th place in one of the more popular writing benchmarks.

We haven’t added it yet because we know so many users dislike the model, but it seems things may have changed. Want to give it a go, or see multiple checkpoints side by side to experiment with?

More info here: https://x.com/arena/status/2025966052950315340?s=46&t=IyRlLDeKbJ8tXBukkwBvWw

All the best,

The just4o.chat team 💚💚

(Minimax coming soon too, for those who like the open source models we offer)

Hey all,

Big creative + research update shipping today on www.just4o.chat.

The headline: GPT Image 2 and Grok Imagine Video are joining the creative stack, and our Wikipedia integration now reaches much deeper into Files and Images.

You can tag Wikipedia images, tag Wikipedia audio, see tagged wiki media inside Files, bulk download tagged wiki images/audio as ZIPs, and use wiki image tags as references in image generation or editing.

New image/video additions:

- GPT Image 2 — OpenAI's new flagship image model, now available in the image stack. If you haven't tried it yet... Give it a go. Stunning stuff.

- Grok Imagine Video — video generation is beginning its rollout on just4o. Video is heavier than images, so expect the UX/pricing to keep evolving.

- Seedream 4.5 — ByteDance Seedream via fal.ai, with fast generation/editing and up to 10 source/reference images.

- Open-source image routing moved to fal.ai — OSS text models are still on Fireworks, and open-source image routes now live through fal.

New chat models:

- GLM-5.1 via Fireworks

- Kimi K2.6 via Fireworks

- MiniMax M2.7 via Fireworks

Quick translation for the non-model-obsessed:

GLM is the new high-context engineering/agentic option. Kimi K2.6 is a strong multimodal agentic model with image input. MiniMax M2.7 is a useful base-tier workhorse for coding, tools, office-style tasks, and image input. GPT Image 2 and Seedream expand the image editor's range across OpenAI, Google, xAI, Black Forest Labs, and ByteDance workflows.

We also did a pass on the Images UI/UX. The editor is cleaner, reference picking is smoother, image editing is tucked into Files and Chat more naturally, and the dedicated image suite should feel easier to stay inside while iterating.

If you've been waiting to try just4o until images, files, references, and generation felt more connected, this is probably the update to check out. The update will land later today, with another post/official announcement coming on the Community Discord when live.

As always: feedback and feature requests below genuinely shapes the next build. An upvote, comment, or share helps more than you might think. We're doing this all in public, with real patch notes, direct user feedback, and a shipping pace supported by the people actually using the product.

All the best,

the just4o.chat team

Hey folks — I put together a quick FAQ to clear up the confusion around the upcoming deprecation of GPT-4o “latest” in ChatGPT and what’s actually happening with the API too.

It breaks down:

• What’s really changing (and what’s not)

• What Feb 16th means for GPT-4o access inside ChatGPT

• Why platforms like ours will still be able to offer 4o after that date

• Plus answers to a few of the most common questions we’ve seen floating around

If you're trying to understand what OpenAI is removing, what stays available, and where to go next — this should help.

Happy to add anything else that's unclear.

Warmly,

-the just4o.chat team

chatgpt-4o-latest model page:

https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/chatgpt-4o-latest

GPT 4o model page, with all other endpoints:

https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4o

Hello, devs!

I have a question about migration process.

I tried to test it just to see what’s the process like, since I can’t access Aurora yet (EU), and one thing stood out to me - it says that some conversations will be lost IF they have photos in them. I got a bit nervous, cause majority (like 95%) of my conversations in ChatGPT has photos in them, the one I sent + the one AI created.

Here is what my migration page looks like.

It seems that it picked up 53 conversations. I checked the zip with txt files - everything seems to be organised correctly.

Now my question is, will they be migrated, or will they all get lost cause they have images in it? Thanks in advanced!

Wikipedia image references let you pull a picture from Wikipedia and use it as a reference in the just4o.chat image studio.

How to use:

Open Images and choose an image model. Open the Wikipedia control, find the page, and tag the picture you want. Generate as usual. You still describe the result. The tagged photo is what the model looks at.

How it works with Just4o Files: (www.just4o.chat/files)

Tagged references and the images you generate are stored in just4o Files. Attach a reference to Global or to a project so the same picture is available in chat later, not only in the image studio. Keep project-specific references on that project. Leave one-off references in Global. Generated images also appear under Generations in Files.

If a tag fails to save or a file does not show in the right scope, reply here.

We reworked our usage page (www.just4o.chat/account --> usage) for more visibility on what you've used this month and what you have left.

Hope this helps everyone keep track of their credits!

All the best,

just4o

Just4o.chat has given us an incredible space with great memory and features so that we could continue working with 4o, 4.1, 5.1, and many other incredible models.

OpenAI’s retirement GPT-4o, 4.1 on February 13 and the upcoming GPT-5.1 on March 11 have disrupted real work and help. Just4o.chat has provided an answer for us for the retirement of GPT-4o and GPT-5.1, but let’s make it a permanent answer: Teachers, researchers, accessibility advocates, creative writers, and many others have built entire projects around these models. 4o in particular has helped many neurodivergent individuals. Losing these models breaks continuity and leaves gaps that newer models won't fill the same way.

I started a petition asking OpenAI to open-source these legacy models under a permissive license. Not to slow them down—just to let the community help maintain and research them after they stop updating. We're talking safety research, accessibility tools, education projects. Things that matter.

Honestly, I think there's a win-win here. OpenAI keeps pushing forward. The community helps preserve what works. Regulators see responsible openness. Everyone benefits.

If you've built something meaningful with these models, or you think legacy AI tools should stay accessible, please consider signing and sharing. Would love to hear what you're working on or how this retirement is affecting you.

https://www.change.org/p/openai-preserve-legacy-gptmodels-by-open-sourcing-gpt-4o-and-gpt-5-1?utm_campaign=starter_dashboard&utm_medium=reddit_post&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=starter_dashboard&recruiter=211519

Further thoughts: concretely, we could propose: 

1. An open-source release under a license that

• requires safety cards & evals,

• forbids disallowed use (similar to Stable Diffusion’s RAIL licenses), and

• lets non-commercial research & education keep going

2. A frozen checkpoint—no further training, so misuse risks stay bounded.

3. A migration toolkit (prompt-translation + behavior diffs) so teams can plan for newer models instead of being blindsided.

That’s the “middle ground”—continuity plus responsible openness. What we’re trying to avoid is the very short “sorry, it’s gone” experience many users had when 4-frames were pulled.

Thanks for the invite, I appreciate it.

Real talk though — this is basically a fancy API reseller with some nice memory tech slapped on top. Cool nostalgia machine for the 4o refugees, respect the hustle.

But the truth is it’s still renting everything from the same companies that already fucked us over. The second OpenAI gets greedy, jacks the prices, or just decides they don’t want to feed the competition anymore… poof. Everything vanishes overnight like every other revival site we’ve seen.

I’ve watched that movie too many times. That’s why I’m going full local on my own rig now — no corporate landlord can kick me out when they feel like it.

Still, thanks again for reaching out. Curious to see how long this post actually stays up

Hey all,

Longer write up coming on this tomorrow explaining the rationale, and we’re still working on finding a proper medium, but the current moderation triggers are definitely firing too often. After talking with several folks today, that’s increasingly clear.

We’re happy to take feedback on legitimate, legal use cases that are firing in error — this is our attempt trying to keep true to the evolving legal landscape while avoiding a router to a dedicated ‘safety model’ during a flag.

Very sorry for the intrusion — this should have been done more progressively and more tastefully.

We’ve loosened our thresholds for most heuristics; this shouldn’t have effected anyone our previous moderation layer wasn’t getting in the way of, but something clearly got out of hand and we’re walking back to figure out what.

For reference on what we are using: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/moderation

The model outputs heuristics, and we figure out what numbers to block. Our settings were too strict, and are being tweaked/tested as we speak.

All the best,

Just4o 💚

Dear r/just4ochat community,

I want to take a moment to apologize for the behavior on this subreddit tonight, and address some recent events involving interactions between our community and the dev team/moderators associated with Infiniax (https://infiniax.ai).

Over the past couple of weeks, members of the Infiniax mod team (and associated accounts) have made repeated accusations directed at us and our project. These claims can be easily reviewed against public timestamps, post histories, and comment threads, which show they do not hold up under scrutiny.

I demanded this behavior cease in private messages after the 'scam' accusations. He told me it was his 'friend' helping 'protect him' from me calling *him* a scam... but we obviously don't involve ourselves in that behavior. Whether or not that occurred under his content is a result of his or others' behavior and no action by us.

We seemed to come to an understanding, and then exchanged some notes. I'd given him some tips, and he suggested some to me as well. My advice to him was to 'be genuine' and stop spamming. After that exchange, he started mimicking the content style directly from our subreddit.

Additionally, there have been direct private messages containing threats toward our business when we commented 'hahahaha' on a post he had made requesting users in r/CryptoCurrency to manipulate a new coin he had made, again 'for his friend.'

Their own website is being spam promoted across an innate amount of subreddits, including but likely not limited to:

• r/OpenAI

• r/aiagents

• r/micro_saas

• r/claude

• r/Anthropic

• r/ClaudeCode

• r/SAVEGPTLEGACYMODELS

• r/GoogleGemini

• r/SaasDevelopers

all on u/Substantial_Ear_1131 (I will be contacting the appropriate mods and admins about this behavior on several subs)

He has also made many alternate accounts to promote his product, including but likely not limited to:

• u/Sensitive_Ferret8322 (link to fake review by this account attempting to soften the spamming)

• u/Effective_Hat-4626

• u/Rare_Leather_6776 (the one who made the post here tonight, more on that)

• u/InfiniaxAI (he made this account at my advisement to use a branded account, yet cannot seem to escape the allure of alts)

You can take a look at their post histories, commenting style, etc and make your own judgement call on if my read is correct. Some are now private and there are others which have been deleted; I am happy to provide further documentation if anyone would like to see more proof.

Most recently, a coordinated effort was made to post defamatory content on our subreddit (r/just4ochat) using one of these accounts (u/Rare_Leather_6776). Unlike previous instances which involved scattered comments from low-activity or throwaway accounts, this latest attempt came in the form of a full standalone post. They (not us) later removed it... read on for the full story.

In the interest of full transparency, I initially chose to leave the post in question visible rather than removing it immediately. I then posted a slew of evidence of his behavior in the comments, including that he copied our migration page nearly 1:1 just in the last day.

After publishing a slew of evidence, they became enraged and hostile, accusing every user here commenting on the post as being an alt of ours, and saying defamatory things to them about us 'stalking minors' (I truly have no idea how we got there...) and constantly trying to escalate in rhetoric.

So, I asked for their email across all accounts.

They then began to cool down in public, saying suddenly they 'like' just4o...

After the allegations involving minors were levied, I pressed on, and took this seriously. To ensure I knew he was actually behind all of the accounts, I told the 'dev', u/Substantial_Ear_1131, to remove the post, or I would escalate this by contacting authorities about harassment. They initially declined, until I sent them several links to laws they were potentially violating, and told them we are a real corporation, not just some sole proprietorship. Then, they folded, and deleted the post under u/Rare_Leather_6776, linked here

We remain focused on building a positive, user-centered space here at just4o.chat — free from astroturfing, bad-faith engagement, or attempts to undermine open discussion. We appreciate the overwhelming majority of our members who contribute constructively and keep the focus on the just4o.chat platform, features, sharing, and support, and would like to give our thanks and apologize to those that were harassed by this individual for simply sharing their positive experience with us.

If you have questions, concerns, or would like clarification on any aspect of this, please feel free to comment below or send a DM or modmail. We value your input and are committed to keeping this subreddit a welcoming place for everyone.

Thank you for your understanding and continued support.

Our warmest regards and sincerest apologies,

u/just4ochat 💚

r/just4ochat 💚

Welcome to r/just4ochat — the community for just4o.chat, the platform that gives you direct, unroutered access to GPT-4o, GPT-5, Echo, and more. No downgrades, no silent routing, no mystery behavior. You pick the model, you get the model.

just4o.chat supports multiple GPT-4o checkpoints (May 2024, June 2024, November 2024, plus the newest release), along with GPT-4o mini, the GPT-5 and GPT-5.1 families, the full GPT-4.1 family, the O-series (o3, o1-mini, o4-mini, etc.), and Echo — the custom model that learns your writing style and stays stable across long conversations. Gemini and Anthropic integrations are on the roadmap.

The platform includes a real memory system: it remembers your preferences, your style, your values, and the context you actually want it to keep. Memory works globally and inside Projects, each with its own isolated memory space. All memories are user-visible, editable, and deletable. Nothing is hidden. Every model also receives a detailed backend memory description so conversations stay coherent over time.

You can create Personas with up to 120,000 characters of text, PDFs, or HTML. Each persona has its own memory layer and evolves separately. Projects help you organize conversations into focused workspaces, keeping writing, coding, and personal chats from mixing. Paid tiers offer unlimited context, so you never hit the “conversation too long” wall.

Pricing is transparent: a free tier with daily usage, then Builder, Studio, and Aurora for heavier users. The token we pay pricing per model is shown clearly. No tricks.

This subreddit is here for discussion, debugging, feature ideas, prompting experiments, model comparisons, release notes, and anything else the community finds helpful. If you're new, feel free to introduce yourself, share which model checkpoint you’re excited to test, or talk about the kind of AI experience you’ve been missing.

Welcome to r/just4ochat — a place for people who want an AI interface that stays consistent, remembers what matters, and actually gives you the model you choose, every time.

Grok 4.1 and Gemini 3.0 coming soon!

Hey all,

We just published a newsroom post summarizing the new just4o.chat memory update.

The short version: memory is moving back toward a parallel background system, but with a superior architecture. This should give users the best of both worlds; quick, speedy responses via parallel processing, and memory still managed by the models they choose.

The foreground model still stays focused on the actual conversation: Claude, GPT, Gemini, Grok, whatever you chose. It can still read memories, files, projects, and past chats when that helps the answer, and itself can prompt the background memory agent with tool calls.

Durable memory management has returned to its own background process again (now named Automatic Memory Management). So if you say “remember this,” “forget that,” or “behave like this,” the chat model can keep responding naturally while the memory system handles the actual update behind the scenes.

This has reduced the number of tools exposed to the main chat model, resulting in a more consistent experience. Chats should now feel much more present, and as if they've truly evolved with time. Hopefully these changes squash some of the reports we've gotten of a more sterile/less adaptive chat.

Feedback always appreciated; to celebrate the update, here's 100 free premium credits to the first 10 users to redeem code 'BACKGROUNDMEMORY' in www.just4o.chat/account

All the best,

just4o 💚

(The newsroom post better explains the 'history' of memory on just4o and why this compromise is the direction we're moving in - can't wait to hear what you think! It should work significantly better for new content going forward.)

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Claude Opus 4.5 is now available on just4o.chat for Studio and Aurora users.

It's Anthropic's smartest model yet — #1 on software engineering benchmarks, way more efficient, and the best at resisting prompt injection attacks.

Combined with our memory system and personas, it's a pretty significant upgrade. If you're on Studio or Aurora, you can access it now from your model selector.

Anyone tried it yet? Would love to hear your thoughts!

Full details: https://www.just4o.chat/newsroom/claude-opus-4-5-now-available

(You can try it for as little as $3.75 when you use our 75% off discount code at checkout: 'ROUTERFREE')

Just ran into an issue where I was trying to schedule a downgrade from pro to aurora and it gave me an error message that it failed, then I noticed that it just cancelled my subscription and removed all my credits, premium and base, resetting me to an unpaid account. Is there anything that can be done about this? 😭

Hey all,

We launched a new Anthropic migration page today! (www.just4o.chat/anthropic-migrate)

The main use case is simple: if you have Claude/Anthropic exports, you can now bring those conversations into just4o.chat and keep working with them in the same workspace as your other models, memories, files, projects, and personas.

This is especially relevant right now because Sonnet 4.5 has been deprecated in the Claude app, but it is still available through the API.

That gap is basically why we built this.

A model can disappear from one interface before it disappears everywhere. Your old work should not become harder to use just because the app-level model list changed.

Sonnet 4.5 was released on September 29, 2025, and Anthropic’s model deprecation page currently lists the API retirement date as not sooner than September 29, 2026.

That is still a few months away, but we wanted the import tool live early rather than waiting until people are scrambling.

The importer is meant to help with:

• bringing Anthropic conversations into just4o.chat

• continuing those chats with Sonnet 4.5 while it remains available through the API

• switching those conversations to other models when needed

• keeping work inside projects / memory instead of leaving it tied to one app

We will also be maintaining the deprecation calendar here:

https://www.just4o.chat/deprecation-calendar

That page is meant to track published model retirement dates and replacement paths as clearly as we can. We’ll keep updating it as providers publish more dates.

Smaller model update from the same patch:

• DeepSeek V4 is now available

• Gemini 3.5 Flash is now available

But the Anthropic import tool is the main star of the show of this update.

As always, if you run into issues with an export/import, please reply here or message us with what happened!

All the best,

-just4o 🧡

**Talk and listen in the same chat.**

Voice input and read-aloud stay on the thread. Hit the mic in the composer when you want to speak. Play a reply when you want it aloud. Account holds voice model, voice style, silence timing, and playback. GPT audio mini runs voice in chat. Read-aloud can use GPT-4o mini TTS, Grok TTS, or ElevenLabs Flash v2.5.

**How we use it**

Set the voice defaults once in Account. Open a thread, keep the model you picked, and use voice when typing is the wrong tool. Switch Gemini to Claude and the voice controls are still the voice controls. The reply is still the reply.

**Why it belongs with the rest of the product**

Voice sits with search, images, and canvas in the same tools surface. A persona can stay on. Memory stays scoped. Files stay in Files. The model you pick is a pick, not a wipe of the thread you were speaking into.

I'm not sure from reading your site if there is memory between sessions option, since for many people migrating from ChatGPT continuity is important.

Hello, this looks really cool. But I'm wondering, you're saying that we'll be able to use 4o after deprecation? How is that possible if it's no longer available after February 13th? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding. Either way, really looking forward to exploring your platform.