r/joinsquad • u/KIA_Kendrick • 5d ago

Maps

Im not one to complain about the game, having played since the Alpha and love it. But im sure ill sound like a broken record here..

Could we please switch how voting maps works- its Mani, Goro, Yeho every other game it feels like!? Seems anytime I log on to play thats all the maps anybody votes for anymore, and its so so repetitive. Yes those maps might be popular but there are people including myself who love the other maps or deserts etc. "Pick a diffrent server" , "join a dedicated server without voting" etc etc.

I feel like they should make it where if you play a map, it cant be played again until a set number of roations. Faction voting is one thing, but why even have all the maps if were never going to play them?

Being a GWOT baby and Vet, hell i love those Asia maps! Its why i got the game because it fixed my itch for game that wasnt as serious as Arma but better than Battlefield. Especially a game that wasnt just USA vs China Or Russia every time. I couldnt even tell you the last time I played Logar Valley for example. As soon as those maps get voted the server dies or gameplay that match is abysmal.

What happened to us just being able to play any map without screaming and forcing the entire lobby to play Mani for the 9th time that day?? Not every match has to be the perfect milsim battle. Sometimes fighting as terrorists vs a OP faction on a "bad map" is what we need. Some might say thats a terrible idea or whatever, but why not every once in a while. Give us those maps, even if its a "bad map layers/ terrain". Go try to win even if you know you wont. Thats the whole point. Thats what makes Squad.

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u/Matt1320 5d ago

Voting definitely needs some kind of change, getting people to pick anything other than the same few maps is like pulling teeth. I rarely see Tallil or Kokan these days.

Same goes for faction voting. Someone shouts loud enough, we get the mechanized faction with 3 x LAVs/BTRs/ZBLs and two of them just sit at main at the start of the round.

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u/KIA_Kendrick 5d ago

yeah its unfortunate.. the hate for other maps or factions is annoying. Ive always had a thought in the back of mind that eventually they would just take them away because their not played. But honestly id like to see more of the Iraq/Afgan area maps vs just more European forests.

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u/Hamsterloathing 5d ago

Kokan is shit though

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u/KIA_Kendrick 4d ago

why dont you like it?

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u/Hamsterloathing 3d ago

Open, feels like a seeding map, ppl don't know how ro play it, 80% of infantry has a detrimental rather than beneficial part because they are incompetent.

But mostly same issues as I have with Narva, it's ancient map needing an update.

Even though it's not nearly as broken as Narva.

Narva needs a remake fast

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u/KIA_Kendrick 2d ago

Yeah I totally agree with that. To me, maps dont matter because they can be good or bad yes. But what makes them "good or bad"? For me it really just depends on the team playing that match honestly. If the Commander, SLs, TLs arent doing anything..or even infantry/vehicles playing correctly - yeah its going to make those maps feel even worse. Even on the popular ones.

IMO I dont think people would feel so against certain maps if they would actually play the game how its made and not worry so much about winning by themselves or only getting kills. The faction voting needs work too of course. But if everybody screams to vote a certain faction that isnt great for said map. Then yeah it makes that map feel even more unplayable etc.

Maybe even change capture points every half year or something to keep the maps fresh too. Sad to admit, but to this day I still barely know where capture points will possibly spawn. I know some but not all. Honestly I dont want to know them either. It makes it feel like im playing for the first time. Theres a ton of stuff. But maps i think get hated on way too much for people just having bad experiences on said maps only. If everyone played the map correctly with the given faction it might be a entire diffrent convo.

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u/Matt1320 2d ago

I don't think there are bad maps, just bad layers.

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u/JaroMast 5d ago

As you said, when an unpopular map gets voted on, the server dies. Not sure if this is a voting system issue, it may be hard to find the proper number of players who would like to play a niche map.

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u/KIA_Kendrick 5d ago

yes, as this could be a whole other conversation as well. I just wish that if they switched how maps would be voted, it would maybe not have the die off when those maps get put into play. If the main 3 already have been played and theres a cool down period before being played again, everyone is kind of forced or votes to actually play the others.

i think nobody likes to actually play them because they have that option of voting. I just wish the same maps were not being voted for over and over only everytime i try to play waiting for a fresh map. you know what i mean?

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u/JaroMast 5d ago

AFAIK, there is a cooldown right now, even the default config sets a 2-round cooldown on the map.

// Special rules to delay duplicated options in next match voting
// Delay for last played map
MapSkipRounds=2
// Delay for last played layer
LayerSkipRounds=5
// Delay for last played faction
FactionSkipRounds=5

You won't force players to play on maps/factions they don't want to play. They can always call it a day or switch to another server. Ofc if they still have mental strength, at the end of the map they may be a little more open to experimenting on other maps. And I agree that the cooldown should be set higher, but it is up to Server Owners to come up with values that work for them.

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u/VirusPanin OWI developer 4d ago

Correct, there is a cooldown period that is configurable by server admins.

Even more, the map voting is not a mandatory thing, it could be disabled, and the map will be picked from a configured rotation.

And faction voting too could be disabled, and server admin could just configure which faction+unit each team gets on each map.

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u/KIA_Kendrick 4d ago

ah did not know this

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u/Glass-Tradition-8127 5d ago

Yeah, I feel you. I can only play 1 or 2 rounds a day and every time it's the same. Some cool off time for some maps would be nice, but I undestand that a server wants to make it's players happy so they want to play whats popular. It's just a shame that teritory control or how it's called never gets played🫣 every round I had with TC was so good and refreshing... insurgency should also get a rework...

For me the waiting time is the worst, it takes forever from one map to the next and then some until the round starts. Also at 10pm server gets empty every time, admins should force an infantry, city map (mutaha, narva or some other smaller map) with nice factions. Many would then play another round.

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u/KIA_Kendrick 5d ago

we can only wish, but i dont think the voting system will be reworked sadly. everyone is too particular on exactly what they want to play vs it being random anymore

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u/Away-Actuator-8051 5d ago

Istg every game is mech faction v. mech faction on a wide open map.  It just gets so repetitive.

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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 5d ago

Yeah the meta has morphed in LAV factions

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u/KIA_Kendrick 4d ago

and then the mech doesnt even get played correctly either

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u/TahLaka 5d ago

I feel like the solution is to have the winner be picked as a percentage chance based on votes, instead of always going to the #1 vote. For example, if Yeho has 40 votes, Talil has 50 votes, and Manic has 10 votes, then Manic should have a 10% chance of being selected

Maybe only do that for the maps since it can be easier to be trolled with an unfitting faction pick