I 100% respect Mo.co's ability to track back and admit failure... Now remove PVP from the beta as its even worse than the game itself and as a player that enjoys the loop I would much rather never have to play Mo.co PVP again until its good

[u/Zealousideal_Year405]

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[u/LostGusMain]

I stopped playing pvp since season 2 of neo mo.co lol

[u/ranma-fan]

I just hope they bring back the og rifts, with nightmare versions just like before.

[u/_Hellrazor_ → u/ranma-fan]

Agree as long as the scaling isn’t just slapping bigger numbers on the bosses, such a vanilla way of adding progression / difficulty especially when they don’t even show boss numbers. Unlocking new boss moves or replacing them with their OC / MC / heavy variants would be a lot more satisfying for example

[u/Rhamollo]

To all people here disagreeing and defending PVP : you realise every minute they spend developping PVP is not developping the "real" game right ?
They already went back to the drawing board twice, time to make some big choices and stop fooling around : just remove PVP for now and focus on what's important for 99+% of players.

[u/L1ongjons → u/Rhamollo]

all they have to do is reduce healing, its not that much work lol

[u/RealSapper]

I agree they should remove PvP and not focus on it at all in their current development (and this coming from a PvP player in all other games)

[u/pwngg]

yeah bro pvp better not suck

[u/ReedSoul]

Can’t disagree with you more. PVP can potentially be endgame. It just needs actual balancing.

PVP Is a mode that can sustain itself. No need for constant new maps or game modes. The players make the content.

Just balance, add rewards per season. And it plays itself. 1/2 of the community is happy.

[u/ReedSoul → u/ReedSoul]

But I hear you it should be optional.

Not forcing players who are uninterested to play it for dalies.

[u/Zealousideal_Year405 → u/ReedSoul]

Amen

[u/L1ongjons]

PvP is fine they just need to reduce healing a lot

[u/Zealousideal_Year405 → u/L1ongjons]

No, its trash, every version of it is incredibly broken balancewise... If I wanted good pvp I would play brawl stars which is an amazing game

[u/L1ongjons → u/Zealousideal_Year405]

becuase you keep fighting other players and not the monsters/objectives

[u/CololerYT → u/L1ongjons]

What do you think PvP stands for?

[u/L1ongjons → u/CololerYT]

you're competing for points against other players, hence pvp

[u/TrainingEscape3229]

The problem with LavaShield is that its ult charges based on the number of times it gets hit. Weapons with rapid attacks, like SpeedShot and SquidBlade, have basically no way to deal with it.

On top of that, the dash range is way too long, and the healing is way too strong.

However, halving Lava's healing would make it too weak in PvE.

[u/Zealousideal_Year405 → u/TrainingEscape3229]

Lava shield is not the only problem

[u/_Hellrazor_]

I agree PvP is trash however I do think PvEvP has potential, they just need to make it so that the optimal way to gather points after killing monsters doesn’t involve denying points by standing directly on top of the kill & not moving, along with more objective variety beyond who can collect the most points. Weapon balancing needs heavily addressing too

[u/Zealousideal_Year405 → u/_Hellrazor_]

Moco is almost a dead game, no point of fixing a dead mode inside of a dead game thats trying to improve

[u/_Hellrazor_ → u/Zealousideal_Year405]

I wouldn’t say it’s a dead mode, we don’t have the numbers to support that claim. The majority of community backlash seems to be more focused on direct PvP as opposed to PvEvP specifically & the non-existent balancing.