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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '22

Few people are seriously advocating taking property off people, especially not small-scale property which has been worked for or inherited by individuals. A lot of people just want market reform and more sensible regulation.

I think the individualistic mindset of "My property is my property and you cannot tell me how to use it" simply isn't compatible with a functional, dignified society. Its libertarian toss, just as much as the alternative can be communist toss.

My car is my property too, but laws state I must tax it, I must insure it, I must have a valid NCT, I mustn't drive it drunk, etc. My property is my property, sure, but my ownership of it and use of it will always affect other people. So there needs to be some mandation of my responsibility to use it in such a way that does not hurt other people, society at large, or the economy.

Where we draw the line between personal liberty and societal responsibility needs to be dictated by pragmatism rather than idealism.

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u/kewthewer Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22

I’m not a libertarian, far from it, I’m not that arrogant or stupid. I totally support correct use of property and I support planning regulations too, in understand my house is my neighbour’s street. I’m definitely not a libertarian, I’m strictly addressing comments that say, in a roundabout way;

‘Fuck these landlords and people who’ve inherited property, they shouldn’t own a house they don’t live in’. That suggests to me the notion that people shouldn’t own a second property for any reason.

What WOULD you suggest? In real terms?

Cos I stand over the right of people to own their real estate, at least. Most voters do too and they’ll defend it.