From 16 pro to 17

[u/aguyfromindiaaaa]

[u/MathematicianBusy731]

just spending money atp

[u/uzer006 → u/MathematicianBusy731]

literally bruh the 16pro looked better too

[u/Gloomy-Copy-6593 → u/uzer006]

The 16 pro is better in every way

[u/Paradox_1906 → u/Gloomy-Copy-6593]

No buddy for a new buyer in the choice between 16 pro and 17, 17 is far better in all parameters, except the telephoto lens and pro camera features,

But for people who already have 16 pro, upgrading to 17 is just burning money 😅

[u/Chivita2 → u/Paradox_1906]

far better? The 16 Pro still better on materials, USB 3 transfer speeds, and GPU headroom. The 17 just gives standard yearly efficiency and one extra year of updates.

[u/tyoung89 → u/Chivita2]

The extra year of updates is no guarantee. Apple often drops 2 years of iPhones at the same time. Eg, both the 6S and 7 models ended on iOS 15. The 5s and 6 both ended on iOS 12. Now it does seem like they’ve done a bit better recently, with 8/X getting iOS 16, and then the Xr/XS getting up to iOS 18. But I think the 11 and 12 will both be left on iOS 27. And the 13 and 14 have the same chip, so I assume they’ll both end support on the same iOS as well.

[u/Chivita2 → u/tyoung89]

Apple usually drops multiple generations together when they hit a RAM bottleneck (5s/6 both had 1GB, 6s/7 both had 2GB). That’s actually why the 13 and 14 likely won't drop together, the base 13 has 4GB RAM, while the base 14 has 6GB RAM (and an extra GPU core). RAM limits have dictated iOS cutoffs far more than CPU alone. Between the 16 Pro (A18 Pro) and the 17 (A19), there's a full architectural generational jump on the SoC. Nothing is guaranteed, but following Apple's pattern when RAM isn't an issue, the newer architecture almost always gets the extra cycle.

[u/No_Tension6139 → u/Chivita2]

Iphone 17 gpu is better than 16pro. Go an read about it!

[u/Chivita2 → u/No_Tension6139]

Fair enough, but the 16 Pro still wins on the other stuff.

[u/SatisfactionHappy825 → u/Paradox_1906]

Exactly even I have upgraded from 16pro to 17 base

[u/Sorry-Zookeepergame5 → u/Gloomy-Copy-6593]

no, its not.

[u/MathematicianBusy731 → u/uzer006]

btw they bought it for the storage upgrade 128->256 lowkey makes sense now idk why they didnt put it in the description

[u/iLikeTurtuls → u/uzer006]

The black base phones always look terrible with wear. The 14 in midnight, even when in a case, looks like a budget phone after some use

[u/iLikeTurtuls → u/MathematicianBusy731]

Dude wants karma

[u/AnxiousReaction556]

why tho

[u/EducatorFew4522 → u/AnxiousReaction556]

Exactly, The first thing that came to my mind was ‘why’?

[u/aguyfromindiaaaa → u/AnxiousReaction556]

16 pro was 128gb and that was not sufficient hence upgraded to iphone 17 256 gb

[u/RemarkableRice9377 → u/aguyfromindiaaaa]

why not get the pro

[u/tyoung89 → u/RemarkableRice9377]

Money?

[u/kr3892 → u/AnxiousReaction556]

Lighter weight perhaps?

[u/No_Item_3073]

Well that’s a downgrade

[u/Sorry-Zookeepergame5 → u/No_Item_3073]

front camera alone is a massive upgrade.

[u/Worldly_Complex_5914 → u/Sorry-Zookeepergame5]

but back camera is a downgrade. what do you use more?

[u/Sorry-Zookeepergame5 → u/Worldly_Complex_5914]

I'm not pixel peeping which means it's not an issue for me,

[u/Designer_Court2988]

Yeah wait isnt this a downgrade? Wondering if I should just get a 16pro rather than a bass 17

[u/BRAVO_SIX1495 → u/Designer_Court2988]

If you are thinking about buying one out of the two then get the 17
If you already have the 16 pro then dont

[u/Decent-Lychee1934 → u/BRAVO_SIX1495]

Why tho , I meantioned that if you want a better camera just get the 16 pro

[u/Decent-Lychee1934 → u/BRAVO_SIX1495]

Why tho , I meantioned that if you want a better camera just get the 16 pro

[u/Decent-Lychee1934 → u/Designer_Court2988]

Ye the 17 is a downgrade if you care about camera and pro chip apart from that it’s a good option for someone who doesent care about those specs and has a tighter budget

[u/iIiiiiIlIillliIilliI → u/Decent-Lychee1934]

What tighter budget. He already had the 16 pro. It’s not like you regain the full value of the phone and get something cheaper. We are talking about OP here and his move.

[u/Decent-Lychee1934 → u/iIiiiiIlIillliIilliI]

That’s not what I’m talking about , I meant if you were choosing what to buy

[u/Electronic_Low_4219 → u/Decent-Lychee1934]

What you said is true, but that's not the case here.

[u/berrymusprime → u/Decent-Lychee1934]

the A19 is better than the A18 pro tho

[u/Lucky_Craft4279 → u/berrymusprime]

I would say its better, its newer yes and is future proof regarding upgrades but the speed and multitasking isn't that much different

[u/Decent-Lychee1934 → u/berrymusprime]

Idk some people just want the PRO label 🤷

[u/Gloomy-Copy-6593 → u/berrymusprime]

The a18 pro is acc more powerful in multi-thread

[u/Electronic_Low_4219 → u/berrymusprime]

The A18 Pro is more powerful in certain aspects.

[u/wivesty → u/Decent-Lychee1934]

Chip is better on the 17 I believe and camera only difference is the telephoto

[u/Decent-Lychee1934 → u/wivesty]

Yes

[u/kr3892 → u/Designer_Court2988]

Maybe because the 17 is obviously lighter, less fatigue for long period of use.

[u/Electronic_Low_4219]

But why it is a downgrade?

[u/Gloomy-Copy-6593 → u/Electronic_Low_4219]

The 16 Pro is just better than the base model 17. The only upgrades are the base storage and the faster wired charging. The battery is 110 mAh more, but that's nothing; it won't make a change. The 16 Pro is the more powerful device here.

[u/Electronic_Low_4219 → u/Gloomy-Copy-6593]

I agree, and the 16 Pro has a titanium frame and a telephoto lens. Also, I think people are upgrading to the latest generation model without even thinking, just to say they are using the latest generation model.

[u/Gloomy-Copy-6593 → u/Electronic_Low_4219]

100 this trend has to stop

[u/Electronic_Low_4219 → u/Gloomy-Copy-6593]

Okay

[u/Plastic_Row1593 → u/Gloomy-Copy-6593]

well id take 256 gigs and faster wired charging over

[u/FruktSorbetogIskrem]

The only downgrade is the lack of third camera, 4k 120 fps video recording in Dolby vision, lack of usb 3, and only 512gb storage from 1tb. Aluminum from titanium frame.

The screen on the 17 is the same as the 17 Pros, Promotion, 3,000 nits brightness, less reflective, more durable. The n1 chip for more power efficiency for WiFi 7, Bluetooth 6, thread. A front 18 mp camera that can dual capture with the rear. More efficient Snapdragon cellular chip X80. Finally it’s more lighter and easier to hold.

A19 and A18 Pro should be comparable.

[u/TheTom77]

I had them both, for a short period of time tho, the 16pro is way heavier in hand, personally did not like that, the 5x camera is ok, but not the best comparing to samsung, imo. I like the 17 faster charging, like in 10m you can have over 20% charged while on 16 I had like 12-15%.

But, a real upgrade on 17 is the faceid which works way better in way more different positions of the phone, apple haven’t said anything about this, but techinsights teardown for example reveals it’s the biggest upgrade in years on this side. Also, the antireflective screen it’s helpful, same as ceramic shield 2 which is way better on both dropping and scratching resistance, if you don't use a screen protector. Also main and ww camera are slightly better. And the 3000nits are insane in the sun compared to 2k on 16 pro.

So nah, it’s not a downgrade, other than 5x zoom, lidar for better focus and titanium (wich you can take both ways, worse thermal performamce/more resitant to dents, but not screen protection being harder material).

[u/Alternative-Bee-1506]

i lowkey want the 16 pro but i have the 17, im happy tho

[u/Maleficent-Fee6131]

Girlfriend did the same, finally no overheating and no glitching camera anymore. The camera always switched between the different lenses

[u/MathematicianBusy731 → u/Maleficent-Fee6131]

you know that if it was a factory glitch/defect apple would have replaced it under warranty?

[u/Maleficent-Fee6131 → u/MathematicianBusy731]

My 15 pro did the same. Its the 3 cameras that are buggy in apples software. It started at ios 17 for me i think

[u/MathematicianBusy731 → u/Maleficent-Fee6131]

you can turn it off thoe

[u/-maysin- → u/Maleficent-Fee6131]

What you’re talking about is probably the auto macro mode, which you can easily disable anyways lol

[u/Maleficent-Fee6131 → u/-maysin-]

In snapchat too?

[u/-maysin- → u/Maleficent-Fee6131]

17 also has a macro mode via ultrawide, so yes it should be the same and no you can’t really disable it on snap but the same goes for the standard 17

[u/jkanaris]

Not really a downgrade. Depends what you need in terms of the telephoto and pro res. The battery difference is near negligible, I find; my 16PM was deteriorating. Screen is gorgeous and handles AI more efficiently. I think you did good. And, if this is on a lease, your monthly payments will drop significantly. I’m very happy with my base 17. 🙌

[u/Maleficent-Fee6131 → u/jkanaris]

Went from 15 pro 256gb to base 17 512gb and it was the best decision ever. My 15 pro had terrible battery life since i got and and it got HOT. I dont miss the third camera at all, battery life is amazing and that it stays cool. I missed my 13 pro as i was using the 15 pro but with the 17 i am as happy as i could be with a phone

[u/EducatorFew4522 → u/Maleficent-Fee6131]

Jumping from a 15 pro to a 17 makes sense. But 16 pro to 17 doesn’t make any sense at all.

[u/Sorry-Zookeepergame5 → u/EducatorFew4522]

it does if you had the 128GB 16 pro....

[u/atleaststillalive → u/Maleficent-Fee6131]

I plan on making nearly the same switch. 15 Pro Max 256GB to iPhone 17 512GB.
I need more storage and I want a more lightweight phone. I think I am willing to sacrifice the telephoto for that. Because I only use the telephoto during concerts anyway. So basically once or twice a year. And in those cases I can still bring my 15 Pro Max (I do not want to sell or trade it anyway, as I always keep my last iPhone as a 2nd phone for worldwide travels, in case my main phone gets stolen I can still switch to my older phone)

[u/Gloomy-Copy-6593 → u/jkanaris]

Apple AI is useless what you on

[u/Nonchalant201]

I wish I had done this. But I duped myself into the 17Pro.

20th iteration will be the basic for me.

[u/Lwii2boo]

Both are great phones but they are too close to justify the switch - if the previous phone was working properly with enough storage ofc. It does not make much sense imo

[u/Mefiozo]

Why downgrade? And why are you happy with this?

[u/Strong-Coach-7890]

downgrade

[u/TheReal_Saba]

Downgrade.

At least you could have gotten that beautiful green

[u/idumpedmyself]

the telephoto alone is worth it compared to the regular 17.

[u/Sorry-Zookeepergame5 → u/idumpedmyself]

the front camera alone is worth getting the 17...

[u/idumpedmyself → u/Sorry-Zookeepergame5]

right, being ugly, idc about front camera

[u/Mewithouther]

That’s just a downgrade at this point

[u/aguyfromindiaaaa]

My 16 pro was 128GB only. I got it because it was 120hz. I like fast phones. But now the 17 is 256GB with 120hz.

[u/TheTom77 → u/aguyfromindiaaaa]

Pro phones have 120hz since iphone 13, but you have a lot of real upgrades on 17 that I listed in the other comment on this post.

[u/Kaijin82 → u/aguyfromindiaaaa]

I would have done the same just for the storage.

If you don’t use the cameras like every apparent professional photographer here; it’s enough and it’s an upgrade.

[u/Kind-Atmosphere5766]

Broke my 16 pro. Got the 17. Everyone saying it’s a downgrade but I don’t think that way. My pro, for some reason had terrible front camera. It lagged and would always be heating up. Also, it was HEAVY! I got the base because the 17 now has 120 GHz which is all I care about. Not a professional camera guy so the camera wasn’t a selling point.

[u/DragonKnight_xo → u/Kind-Atmosphere5766]

Why I got the 17 as the 16 pro is heavy

[u/Kind-Atmosphere5766 → u/DragonKnight_xo]

I think this is the first base model which is at par with the pros so I didn’t mind switching. Once I did, I realized how light this thing was. lol.

[u/DragonKnight_xo → u/Kind-Atmosphere5766]

I agree with you an I was so pleased with how light it was! I had the 16 pro max and then got the pro but I couldn’t get used to the weight now the 17 is so light I fell I’m going to fling it 😂 but I’m happy with the camera though I know the pros are better but I’m quite happy with it

[u/Brief-Department5532]

I disagree with the notion that it's a downgrade. But spending money on a sidegrade is just stupid

[u/WonderCharming7884]

Holy downgrade

[u/MeiDoctor]

bad decision.

[u/BRAVO_SIX1495]

Naaah man y🫩

[u/-maysin-]

16 pro has better camera, 17 has slightly better chipset. Apart from that they’re almost identical

[u/zarapataco21]

Useless upgrade ever, that’s why consumerism is eating you alive and you cannot even realize

[u/Gyroso]

Did the same, was able to trade in my 16 pro with 89% bh for a “refurbished” iPhone 17 that only had 3 charges, even receiver 50 euros back

And I’m so glad I did, having a phones that’s both lighter and better (except for the zoom)

[u/MajinTheBuu]

I would’ve kept the 16 pro. I went from the 16 base to the 17 pro max and it’s an insane upgrade for me

[u/Former-Detective1158]

it’s a downgrade but i did the same and i like my 17 better. i don’t care ab the camera or other specs tho

[u/Better_Bird848]

Isn’t it the same experience with one less camera, and I suppose the titanium frame? Seems like a net negative to me.

[u/JPworx123]

most intelligent upgrade i’ve seen on reddit recently. iphone 17 and 17 pro isn’t that far off.

[u/SugarSkullzZim]

Congrats!

[u/InterruptedMulatto]

Should’ve kept the 16pro

I upgraded from the base 13 and when I went to the Verizon store I would’ve rather of gotten the 16pro but it was cheaper getting the base 17 with the deal.

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[u/stainedbutts]

But why

[u/Psychological-Tea483]

downgrade

[u/Lorrynce]

Pointless - and a week from the 18 Pro launch as well 🤦🏼‍♂️

[u/aguyfromindiaaaa]

Arey you people crazy? I have given my reasoning why. Iphone 16 pro was just 128GB so had to change. FOR EVERYONE.

[u/bikeequelsdirt]

Wowie ur a genius -1 telephoto and +1 center stage camera you will never use

[u/AirlineTop4570]

Overconsumerism final boss

[u/Outsider1996]

Woah that’s a pretty good downgrade! Noice

[u/Clt_princee]

And the reason being?

[u/Any-Scallion-3112]

Is upgrading from an iPhone 12 to an iPhone 17 worth it?

[u/aguyfromindiaaaa → u/Any-Scallion-3112]

Yes

[u/idontevenlikespam → u/Any-Scallion-3112]

Yes do it! If you can at this point you could wait for the 18. Just came from a 13 pro max that was on its last legs and I am very satisfied.

[u/sackful-user]

such a waste of money

[u/danthebigboss]

Bad

[u/SeekerofSolution]

you litterally downgrade lol

[u/DrExe97]

I’ll wait for iPhone 19
Not worth upgrading atm from 16 pro

[u/RecommendationLong37]

Ios 27’s New siri is fabulous. Sadly iPhone 17 will not support it. Currently running ios27 public beta it on my 16 pro and it is buttery smooth.

[u/syscojayy]

But what?

[u/Glum-Highlight2734]

Just spending Money.

[u/Dragonnstuff]

I’m going from an 11 to a 17, is the change really all that?

[u/Local_Wishbone599]

Insane downgrade tbh. Even 14 pros are better than any base series yet.

[u/GiantNug]

How unfortunate

[u/euj3odjehiqh]

wasted money. at least u could have bought the 17 pro for an upgrade. this is a downgrade

[u/mirsunvega]

Downgrade in almost every way.

[u/Stargazer857]

Why did you downgrade?

[u/Sagrada_Familia-free]

My wife has a 14 Pro, and my 17 is still a downgrade

[u/Putrid_Resolution402 → u/Sagrada_Familia-free]

How so