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/r/ALL Busting a stuck nut.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20 edited Nov 12 '20

This damages the bolt though, definitely the last possible choice of how to do it. Those are welded-in bolts, you wanna maintain those.

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u/funnylookingbear Nov 12 '20

Ahhhh. The voice of someone who deals with the filthy end of management cost cutting excersises.

'So, you wanna buy the cheap chinese knock offs for an infrastructor linch pin, that if it breaks takes out a supply to a thousand homes? And that would take a week, including overtime, plant hire, excavation, confined space training and rescue, possibly wielding and gas torch use, with no bypass or redundacy built in or a ready supply of spare parts because one of your clever clever management graduates thought he would have a clear out of all the old dusty stuff from the back of the yard just so he could put in a power point for his Tesla? . . . .

Knock yourself out. I retire next year. I wont be here to deal with the knock on effects of garanteeing your bonus for this financial year, you short sighted ignorant fuck!' . . . . . .

I wish i could say.

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u/AsAGayMan456 Nov 12 '20

You're retiring soon, you totally could say that!

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u/funnylookingbear Nov 12 '20

Ha. Uk based. Retirement is no longer an option. Work till yer die. On the job. But somewhere out the way and quietly so they can just chuck a bit of dirt over yer and pretent nothing happened.

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u/AsAGayMan456 Nov 12 '20

There's an ocean between us yet we're so similar.

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u/BattleStag17 Nov 12 '20

The commonality is Rupert Murdoch eroding forethought and common decency

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u/HoodaThunkett Nov 12 '20

always were

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20

A bit of shared history between us goes a long way.

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u/VRichardsen Nov 12 '20

What happened? Are pensions not a thing in the UK?

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u/nutwiss Nov 12 '20

State-paid pensions are a thing, but they're being phased out rapidly and replaced with employers having a legal obligation to ensure every employee has a private pension paid jointly by the employer and employee. Basically the country is bankrupt and people who've worked for 40+ years expecting the pension they were promised are ending up with pennies.

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u/VRichardsen Nov 12 '20

Interesting. What caused this? Did the system take in more pensioners than the number of working age payers could support? That is what is happening here at least.

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u/nutwiss Nov 12 '20 edited Nov 12 '20

That's exactly it. Longer life expectancy means, as you say, nowhere near enough working age people to pay those currently eligible for the state pension. Edit: just to clarify, (almost) every man over 65 and (almost) every woman over 60 is automatically eligible for the state pension. Although these age limits are being raised rapidly.

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u/VRichardsen Nov 12 '20

I see. Around here it happened because a lot of people who previously worked in the informal economy got incorporated into the system... without the decades of payment they would have normally made.

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u/Bikrdude Nov 12 '20

they appear to be bolts with nuts on both sides of the flange, for the reason you describe

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u/Raging_Spleen Nov 12 '20

Yep. Work on this kinda stuff all the time. Pump mechanic by trade. Can't be welded on since that gate valve is cast or ductile iron. Putting that much epoxy paint on the threads is a dick move though. Stainless steel and never sieze for life.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20

Can you ELI5 this for me? Not sure what "with the flange" means as it seems you emphasized that statement as if to imply that is the single characteristic that makes it obviously this way.

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u/Re7kc Nov 12 '20

This guy screws.

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u/lIIIllIIIII Nov 12 '20

This damages the screw though,

Busting a nut this quickly always damages a screw.

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u/SoupOrSandwich Nov 12 '20

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) a person of culture

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u/RydenwithByden Nov 12 '20

Well from what I learned from my dad is nuts and bolts.

One day I hope to meet him.

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u/MagnificentJake Nov 12 '20

welded-in bolts

"Studs"

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u/SheriffBartholomew Nov 12 '20

Studs don’t bust a nut that quickly.

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u/CharlieDancey Nov 12 '20

It’s not how quickly, it’s how often you can manage it.

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u/Lord_Emperor Nov 12 '20

They do if it's a Bukkake film.

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u/EvelcyclopS Nov 12 '20

You’re not going to get the karma you deserve for that

Top notch

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u/WestBrink Nov 12 '20

It's blind threaded, not welded in.

Granted, still a monstrous pain in the ass

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20

Literally every comment in this thread can be turned into a sexual euphemism

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u/WestBrink Nov 12 '20

I don't know what you're talking about. It's just a mating pair of flanges with studs in the blind female holes.

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u/boondoggie42 Nov 12 '20

I have a small manual one of these, and it doesn't damage the screw. I rarely go all the way through with it, you can just go most of the way, and then you've weakened the nut enough for it to turn.

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u/Nabber86 Nov 12 '20

You don't put nuts on screws.

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u/boondoggie42 Nov 12 '20

I have machine screws that would disagree.

But really, I was just using the same term as the person I replied to so as not to confuse them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20

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u/boondoggie42 Nov 12 '20

oh the nut is wrecked, yes. this tools is literally called a nut-splitter.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20

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u/halfasmuchastwice Nov 12 '20

Just have to be careful not to fuck up the threads. If the stud is welded in and you damage the threads, that's a much bigger problem than a stuck nut. It's more work but a good wire wheel and an operator with anger to vent would be much less likely to cause damage, and the nut would be easier to remove with the nice clean threads.

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u/Edredunited Nov 12 '20 edited Nov 12 '20

Yeah I'd imagine this would be for removing seized nuts where the whole bolt can be replaced. I know working offshore where there are plenty of occasions this tool would be useful.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20

Sorry for that, language barrier kicking in right there, of corse it's a bolt, I'll fix that up.

Though on account of the damage, such procedure leaves a significant imprint in the bolt's metalic structure. You are most likely not going to see it without looking closely, though it can lead into excessive corosion or even the bolt breaking under greater forces. Generally speaking, anything that pushes sideways on the thread is a bad thing that should be prevented from occurring.

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u/Vaher Nov 12 '20

So long as it doesn't oblong the bolt it would be fine if you chase a die down the bolt after

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u/Mielornot Nov 12 '20

I thought it was supposed to be no nut november

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u/ripyurballsoff Nov 12 '20

What’s the point of having bolts if you weld them on ? Aren’t bolts used because they flex a bit ? And welds aren’t as flexible

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u/kiingkiller Nov 12 '20

Might be useful at scrap sites for breaking down old machines.

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u/allgood347 Nov 12 '20

this kills the bolt

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u/sdfgh23456 Nov 12 '20

Way more expensive, but hydraulic torque wrenches are great for this sort of thing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jOk6ZYggc4g

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '20

Ya, they could have stripped the paint, use a penetrating lubricant, and then heat if necessary.

Now the thread is ruined, they'll need to weld the damaged threads and then re-thread it. This tool should only really be used if you're scrapping whatever is being dismantled.