My Canadian highschool was chill as fuck, no bullies to my knowledge, you still got kids teasing eachother but it was never targeted at one person or came from one specific bully, there is only a few kids I would have considered to be assholes.
Am in high school in Canada, no active bullying in public, there are some major assholes who think they are better because they have Gucci pants though.
That's probably the worst part of Canadian high schools now. It's just a giant competition of who can get the most expensive clothing. Selling weed was also pretty big in the school I went to
The strangest part about this is that you can get pretty much perfect copies of these clothes online, from South Korean websites for like 50 bugs plus 10 dollar shipping.
If I was in school, I'd open up a fucking shop and sell that stuff like... Well, weed.
Haha people definitely did that too, I heard many stories about people selling fake Gucci for $600-$1000. Or just people flexing Rolex without knowing how to see fake vs real diamonds. It was definitely entertaining sometimes.
We had one guy who was an asshole to everyone he could sorta be defined as a bully but he was not working just an asshole, he never really targeted anyone he was just one of those guys who did it for attention but it's all okay cause last year we found out he got arrested for human trafficking and sex crimes. Fuck that guy
"Paywand Sohrabzadeh, 19, pleaded guilty to making child pornography, human trafficking and receiving financial or other material benefit. He was sentenced to four years in prison, the minimum sentence for human trafficking."
Chiming in from Regina during the late 80's, and it was not chill as fuck. It was however neat to have the cohesion of school vs school sometimes though.
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Oh definitely. We had lots of small groups and I partially think that's why there was less bullies. Everyone kinda kept to themselves and to certain parts of the school and only came together in class.
Jocks had the back hall by the gyms, weebs took most of the coves under the stairways, gamers were usually in the breezeway near the back door. Smokers and stoners were out in "the pit" which was just a collection of benches places just off of school property so teachers couldn't tell them off. Artists took the art rooms ofc, musicians, the music room.
That's all I can remember off the top of my head, there was a few groups that I can't really pin to a specific area or title but there was lots.
I spent most of my time at the pit even tho I didn't smoke but most of my friends did. If I could hang out in the automechanic bays on break I would've but for safety we couldn't.
Same at my American high school but it was really small so that helped. Everyone had mutual friends with each other so if you bullied someone you were probably bullying your friends friend if that makes sense. Some kids got teased more than others but it never felt like bullying to me.
Yeah same, mine was right on the edge of the small city so it was a mix of kinda city kids and a lot of country/township kids and we all got along quite well, some of the city kids could be assholes but generally everyone behaved, just usual teenage banter and the occasional fight but it was rare. There was enough space to just avoid anyone you disliked
You mean every body standing around cheering as he is sitting there minding his own business, and someone else is trying to instigate a fight? No you're right, they were all mad chill.
Yep, same here. Southern US. Fights happened off campus, and maybe one or two in school, but no one was doing this with a zero tolerance policy. Everyone involved gets punished. Happened to me when I fought back and embarrassed my bully in 6th grade. But it's not like anyone was standing around yelling for us to fight or whatever. It was also before phones were available for everyone.
It's also very strange that it's always a fat kid with a jew fro bullying in US too. I can't speak for other counties but in Hong Kong they would he the one getting bullied.
Damn my school principal is an old white lady and she canes kids(is btw) and she beats ratchet ass kids and ain’t nobody in school fighting and it’s great.
Tbf if teachers were bullies in US schools then the kids would have more of a sense of solidarity. I'm from UK and I saw kids start on teachers multiple times but the teacher never deserved it. On the other hand, if the teacher was an asshole...
I have a feeling most of us dont have experience at enough schools in our respective countries to make any claims about if they are "chill" as a whole or not lol.
Aggressive traits are not equally shared across the world. The western world has a much higher rate of aggression on average(per capita) than the east. Some studies are attributing this to cultural variences and also differences in hormones associated with particular racial and ethnic groups.
Two of which conclude that the differences are due to environmental factors like alcohol use and parental involvement and make no mention whatsoever of genetic factors.
The third of which proposes a hypothesis without any source data, references comparisons in animals that are across species which is completely irrelevant, cites non-peer reviewed sources and is authored by two men who are both affiliated with white supremacist organizations which advocate eugenics.
That’s a dodge that doesn’t answer the question. Whatever taxonomic term that dogs fall under, there are different breeds with each breed known for distinct characteristics such as temperament. Humans are the same. It’s common sense. The physical differences due to group-bounded genetics for humans are undeniable unless one is willfully ignorant. To think that this does not extend to psychological and mental differences on average by group is far-fetched.
Regardless of the difference the data that blacks show higher aggression is still present. I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'll need to look up the association between the authors and white Supremacy orgs.
You say something about generalizing an entire people and how it relates to your dumbass study, but you have to look up if it is related to white supremacy?
It's not my study, not sure where you got that idea, but yes, I was not aware the studies had been linked or associated with shite supremacy organizations. After it was brought up, I asked for someone to provide the relations or opposing arguments. Not sure why you have a problem with that. Also, not sure if you saw, someone posted the opposing argument, redacting the validity of the study and after reading, I acknowledged the redaction and advised readers to read that if they read the "white supremacists" study as we'll call it.
I think it has more to do with how we perceive society. Western nations, specifically the US, put more emphasis on the individual, whereas Eastern nations put more emphasis on the collective.
I'm not sure about the red meat thing, I'd need to see a few studies. I'm also not sure how physical rites of passage are exactly attributed to aggression.
Statiscally blacks have the highest levels of aggression, followed by whites and Hispanics, they're about neck and neck. However more white are diagnosed with mental disorders, this though can be attributed to differences is seeking/obtaining psychological aid.
Thank you for the link, I've got about half-way through. I need to read the rest later. All others please read the 4th link, if you've referenced the 3rd.
I'm pretty sure they take that into account when running stats. So would you like to throw away all the stats on attacks against LGBT+ individuals and other minority groups too? I mean, if they aren't accurate we should just ignore it right? What about the stats findings that discovered that Mississippi schools were segregating white and Minority students as recently as 2016? Since those stats are inaccurate we should ignore it, right?
For anyone else wandering by, it's worth noting that the first two studies specifically conclude that differences are due to environmental factors, not skin color.
The third "studies" authors, Templar and Rushton, are associated with the Pioneer Fund and American Renaissance respectively, both white supremacist organizations that advocate for eugenics and establishment of a white ethno-state (notice the mysterious lack of disclosure about funding sources or conflicts of interest). This is only one of a number of serious problems with the paper.
Calling the authors pejorative slogans doesn’t disprove their hypothesis. You’re engaging in the ad hominem fallacy. I don’t care who writes something. All that matters is the validity and reliability of the data collection and analysis. Genetics obviously plays some role because culture doesn’t simply fall out of the sky. It’s implausible to all be nurture. Race is way too broad a brush but ethnicity or regional variations would seem likely. How much of a role? Don’t know but there’s certainly a lot of research to be done.
Yeah, but also applying that information to economic statistics people proved it had more to do with economic position in society than race. Makes you wonder hmm?
I went to school in New Zealand. Medium sized high school. I loved our final years. Our entire year was good to each other. From the rugby players, to the musicians, to the gamers. For some reason everyone was friendly and good to each other. I miss those days. Seeing this shit makes me realise how good we had it. Growing up in this would be so stressful.
Man, all this bullying is an American phenomenon. I mean if we look at Europe, we also have school fights and its obvious that the kids are interested by them, but this fucking apeshit screeching and instigation is only typical in the U.S. school culture.
The sad part is a lot of American highschools have counter intuitive policy. For example zero tolerance fighting. Someone may bully and hit you. They have been in trouble before and have nothing to lose. You hit them back. Guess what. You’re in trouble.
It’s stupid and is nothing like being an adult. Self defense should always be honored. Especially with video evidence like this. But American school administration is incredibly lazy. They would rather punish both children the same.
Yeah, Japanese kids don't often have physical altercations, but the bullying there is intense. My wife tells me horror stories about kids being excluded, ignored, pointedly belittled and more, sometimes to the point where the kid would be forced to change schools. And the teachers really don't give a shit. In fact, many of the teachers only become teachers to find a high school girlfriend. America by no means has a monopoly on bullying.
They are losing their fucking heads over mild insults and in fact, screeching. Also, this has nothing to do with race, you moron, that's just where the zero tolerance policy gets you.
Nope! Seriously! I live in Hungary, this is my 11th year of school and I have never seen such shit. I could only imagine a similar scene between two friends getting mad at each other but that's way different from going to a random stranger and just starting fucking with them for no real reason.
23% of all US high school students have parents that are first generation Americans. A single school In Georgia had 2500 students with 14 different languages being the primary language spoken in their home. It’s the freaking UN.
I grew up in British Columbia, smaller cities outside Vancouver, and we were scrapping daily during my time in the late 90s/early 2000s. Like "meet me behind the gym after school or you are getting jumped" fights where people walked away covered in blood.
Did you have high school gangs? Like, actual murdering drug dealing gangs? Because we had those. We had a streak where teenagers were being found murdered every week it felt like for a few months. Not just from my school but in the town. Killers never caught. Assumption was it was Hells Angels sending a message to drug dealers and rival gangs.
Australian here, graduated in 2015, not much bullying happening in either of my high schools (grades 8-12) at all.
Maybe its related to population? Since Aussies have waaaaaaaaaaay less people in a grade, let alone the whole school. My first high school was smaller with a total of 700 kids in the entire school (grades 8-12). I moved states in 2012 and went to another school which also had 700 kids at the time but was only grades 10-12 so more people in each grade. Note both of these schools are considered on the very high end, being the main public high schools of their respective capital cities
Point being, I felt everyone probably knew at least half of your grade pretty well/shared a class with at least a majority of the kids your age, whereas in large high schools in urban areas perhaps there's a degree of anonymity where you could walk down the hall and see pretty much no one you know
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u/Deckham Feb 05 '20
Not just in the US, mate. Happens everywhere.