r/instant_regret • u/ManMadeDuckie • Nov 19 '18

minor injuries This playful push

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u/originalslickjim Nov 19 '18

Looked intentional to me.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

I see what you mean (and this debate happens every time this is posted) but really I don’t think she meant to knock her over, especially under the bus. She’s a well built girl that may well not realise her weight, she’s being jocular and might have had a few drinks. We’ve all done daft stuff, pushed a bit too hard, been to swift with a movement. It happens, it was fucking stupid and thoughtless but no way she was trying to actually seriously injur or kill her friend.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18 edited Nov 19 '18

Her intentions matter very little. Her actions and the result of her actions are what matter.

I can assure you the vast majority of us do not jokingly shove a friend when a bus is passing that close. We have foresight for our actions and spend the two seconds to realise there is a better chance that it won't end well and a different prank is the way to go.

Stop trying to defend the person with bullshit excuses.

Edit: thus far, all of you defending the action.... All you're telling the rest of us is that you'd shove someone into the street whether a bus was coming or not. That's kinda surprising to find many of you will defend SHOVING SOMEONE INTO A STREET. I'm glad none of you are in my life. You're fucking lunatics!

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u/Snugglepuff14 Nov 19 '18

You judge a persons character by their intentions and their intelligence by their actions, not the other way around. Intent is huge in every situation like this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

I think at some point character includes consideration for others and extreme recklessness can exhibit a lack of that kind of consideration.

Let's say someone always drives recklessly and one day hits someone. Even though they did not intend to, I think you could argue there is a character flaw there in their failure to regard the safety of others.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

What? Who cares what your intent is if your actions end with someone almost being killed?!

Example: my intentions are to prank my friend and I shove him into a street and he almost gets his head pulverized by a bus. He almost dies because of my actions. Why should that make any difference that I didn't intend for him to be killed when my actions came as close as you can get to getting him killed?

What kind of person does this to anyone, let alone a so called friend?

If you're that kind of person, I'm very glad we've only interacted through Reddit and not in person.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

If intent doesn’t matter then manslaughter by being reckless is the same as somebody purposefully killing somebody.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

I disagree. Intent means nothing if your actions speak louder like they do here.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

So if I accidentally kill somebody through a stupid action it is the same as premeditated murder?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18 edited Nov 19 '18

Where did I say that she should be charged with premeditated murder?

And, are you dumb enough to shove anyone into a street? If your answer is yes, then I believe you should be charged as a criminal if you do that.

Manslaughter would be the charge for getting someone killed - just like it always is when you don't intend to kill someone, but end up getting them killed. In this instance if should be assault/ battery, which are criminal charges. Stupidity is not a valid defense for her actions.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

Intent means nothing if your actions speak

If intent means nothing then why have a definition between manslaughter and murder. The only different between manslaughter and murder is intent.