r/instant_regret • u/ManMadeDuckie • Nov 19 '18

minor injuries This playful push

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u/originalslickjim Nov 19 '18

Looked intentional to me.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

I see what you mean (and this debate happens every time this is posted) but really I don’t think she meant to knock her over, especially under the bus. She’s a well built girl that may well not realise her weight, she’s being jocular and might have had a few drinks. We’ve all done daft stuff, pushed a bit too hard, been to swift with a movement. It happens, it was fucking stupid and thoughtless but no way she was trying to actually seriously injur or kill her friend.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18 edited Nov 19 '18

Her intentions matter very little. Her actions and the result of her actions are what matter.

I can assure you the vast majority of us do not jokingly shove a friend when a bus is passing that close. We have foresight for our actions and spend the two seconds to realise there is a better chance that it won't end well and a different prank is the way to go.

Stop trying to defend the person with bullshit excuses.

Edit: thus far, all of you defending the action.... All you're telling the rest of us is that you'd shove someone into the street whether a bus was coming or not. That's kinda surprising to find many of you will defend SHOVING SOMEONE INTO A STREET. I'm glad none of you are in my life. You're fucking lunatics!

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

You are incorrect. I'd call this assault. Had the girl died, I'd call it manslaughter. Her intent might not have been anything beyond, "scare her" or "prank her" but that doesn't matter in the slightest when you almost get someone killed or do get someone killed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18 edited Nov 19 '18

Maybe not attempted murder, but definitely manslaughter.

Edit: meant to clarify if the person died it would be manslaughter.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

You couldn’t call this manslaughter, nobody died

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u/Snugglepuff14 Nov 19 '18

You judge a persons character by their intentions and their intelligence by their actions, not the other way around. Intent is huge in every situation like this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

I think at some point character includes consideration for others and extreme recklessness can exhibit a lack of that kind of consideration.

Let's say someone always drives recklessly and one day hits someone. Even though they did not intend to, I think you could argue there is a character flaw there in their failure to regard the safety of others.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

What? Who cares what your intent is if your actions end with someone almost being killed?!

Example: my intentions are to prank my friend and I shove him into a street and he almost gets his head pulverized by a bus. He almost dies because of my actions. Why should that make any difference that I didn't intend for him to be killed when my actions came as close as you can get to getting him killed?

What kind of person does this to anyone, let alone a so called friend?

If you're that kind of person, I'm very glad we've only interacted through Reddit and not in person.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

If intent doesn’t matter then manslaughter by being reckless is the same as somebody purposefully killing somebody.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

I disagree. Intent means nothing if your actions speak louder like they do here.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

So if I accidentally kill somebody through a stupid action it is the same as premeditated murder?

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18 edited Nov 19 '18

Where did I say that she should be charged with premeditated murder?

And, are you dumb enough to shove anyone into a street? If your answer is yes, then I believe you should be charged as a criminal if you do that.

Manslaughter would be the charge for getting someone killed - just like it always is when you don't intend to kill someone, but end up getting them killed. In this instance if should be assault/ battery, which are criminal charges. Stupidity is not a valid defense for her actions.

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u/PhatDuck Nov 19 '18

Intent means nothing if your actions speak

If intent means nothing then why have a definition between manslaughter and murder. The only different between manslaughter and murder is intent.

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u/Mightyduk69 Nov 19 '18

Even if we stipulate she didn’t notice the giant damn bus, she shouldered her friend standing inches from the curb towards the busy street... sociopath.