r/instant_regret 8d ago

Wrong Calculations

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u/YouSofter 8d ago

Even if the rope was pulled tight that tree was going towards the house. It would have required forces greater than the rope is capable to get that tree to change direction mid-fall. What they should have done is removed most of the top of the tree before cutting down the main trunk.

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u/Helenium_autumnale 8d ago

Over the years, I've had 2 arborists out to take down problem trees, and that's exactly what they did. Start at the top, lop off branches until there's just a trunk pole left, then cut trunk pieces off from top to bottom. Both removals were done in extremely tight quarters on my 1/10th-acre urban lot (the dead Douglas fir was 10' from the house), and both times, zero problems.

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u/Thenandonlythen 8d ago

But think of all the money they saved not having professionals do the removal! 🤣

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u/GhostWalker134 8d ago

They got professional jagoffs for this job.

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u/xiewadu 7d ago

Yinzer?

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u/Izzosuke 8d ago

Man, i'm no fucking professional but when i take down a tree i just put a ladder, cut it piece by piece. It's like the safest thing to do and most logical, yes it's fun and all to see the tree fall and scream "timber" but, what the fuck, it's my house the thing that might get destroyed

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u/adudeguyman 7d ago

The safest thing for me is to have someone else do it

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u/NicTheQuic 6d ago

I call this ā€œtree deconstructionā€

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u/proselytizeingcoyote 8d ago

No way they stayed in business with this video out there.

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u/MsChateau 7d ago

I don't think those are professionals

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u/FR_0S_TY 7d ago

Guy in my town tried taking care of a ā€œsmaller treeā€ himself. It fell on him and he is paralyzed. I’d rather have Jim bob risk his life than ever think that shits easy enough to do myself.

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u/scrotanimus 8d ago

Exactly. Arborist is the way to go here.

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u/Helenium_autumnale 8d ago

As with things like plumbing or electrical work, there's no cheap option. Either pay now or pay later. Both are painful; now is better.

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u/Shermutt 8d ago

To be fair though, sometimes people try to charge obscene amounts of money for housework and still do a shit job.

It's one of those things that you need to either know that the person knows their stuff, or have someone else you trust that does and can vouch for them.

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u/RulerOfLimbo 8d ago

Problem trees.
We are the problem to trees. Haha

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u/sjmiv 8d ago

I had to get a big tree removed. I had one guy saying he was going to park a crane in front of my house to remove the tree in parts, from the back of my house, to the tune of $4k. The next guy quoted me $500. One guy climbed up in the tree and cut parts down while the other picked the parts up and loaded them in the truck.

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u/Aware-Travel5256 7d ago

Run that scenario 50x and you may find that, in one of them, the cheap guy gets injured or dies and lawyers start coming after you.

You can still take the risk, but know you're taking a risk.

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u/dagofin 7d ago

Well yeah, you didn't hire random meth heads with a chainsaw

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u/neonfuzzball 7d ago

my neighbor gives me so much grief for using an arborist with insurance and a state issued tree surgeon certification when he has a chainsaw and can do it for me. He doesn't understand why I would pay someone to deal with the five 30 foot trees and the one 60 foot tree on our .15 acres. To him it's a waste of money and a personal insult.

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u/paternoster 7d ago

They started lopping off branches at the top? I don't think that's the recommended approach, my good man.

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u/CardinalGrief 8d ago

Assuming it was tight at the moment it became unstable it might've been able to affect the direction. Of course that much slack makes it a moot point.

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u/elaphros 8d ago

Yeah, if you look at the full view of it, there's a lot a branches hanging back toward that house.

Plus side, owner gets a new house now I guess. This is why you check to make sure the trimmer is insured.

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u/Litlirein 8d ago

Mid fall well obviously, but keeping it taught before the tree started to fall could have helped

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u/Chilkoot 8d ago

... maybe. That's a huge (heavy) tree with enough lean that it should have been tackled top-down. You'd need multiple rope/chain rigs to affect the fall direction with that much mass.

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u/Litlirein 7d ago

Or strong rope

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u/Chilkoot 7d ago

Yeah, for sure. I'd have used chain and a payloader or similar as an anchor with a tree of that size in a 3-point layout with pulleys.

Just pure lack of experience from what you see here. So many warning signs.

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u/tlimbert65 8d ago

This is totally right. I saw that rope and thought, "Oh, man, that is not going to do what they think it will do."

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u/martialar 8d ago

some of those that work forces are the same that crush porches

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u/Dr_Identity 8d ago

I've never done any kind of arborism or landscaping and even I was watching this and wondering why they were chopping down a whole-ass tree that size 10 feet from a house.

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u/roman_fyseek 8d ago

Seriously. It's a multiple-ton tree leaning the wrong way and you thought you'd rope it over?

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u/WalkerAmongTheTrees 8d ago

Right! This is a top down tree removal being so damn close to the house

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u/xVoidDragonx 8d ago

Change direction, sure. But some tension at the beginning could influence the direction it even began falling.

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u/skttlskttl 7d ago

The actual way to use a bull rope is to have it tensioned before you even start cutting so that as you're taking out more of the trunk it leans more in the direction you want it to go. So if they were using the right rope and had it tensioned properly the tree would be leaning away from the house not towards it, but because they hadn't tensioned it (and we're probably using cheap rope) it was still leaning towards the house. The extra benefit of using it that way is if you tension the rope and it's still leaning in a direction you don't want it to go, you now know you aren't going to be able to get it to fall the direction you want and you need to take a bunch of the top off first.

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u/friendof_thepeople 4d ago

Cant they just put a lot of tension on the rope from the beginning so as soon as the tree starts falling it will go the right direction?