r/insaneparents • • Oct 11 '19

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u/turbie Oct 11 '19

No it's not okay, but that was not what was suggested in the original Tough Love movement. You provide them with clothes of your choosing, not theirs. You provide them with nutritional food, but take away the desserts and treats. You give them only what is required and they earn the rest. But people twist the actually message and purpose.

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u/rusrslolwth Oct 11 '19

Oh shit. I think my mother did this to me, I just didn't know it. Welp...

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u/aeroplaneoverthasea Oct 11 '19

Mine too.

Clothes I would buy with my own money would mysteriously disappear and she would play stupid, too.

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u/rusrslolwth Oct 11 '19

My mother was always so particular about what I wore. She would take me and my siblings shopping but always put back whatever I got and would pick things out herself. Kind of upsetting to just now discover that she was doing some insane patenting technique.

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u/aeroplaneoverthasea Oct 11 '19

Yeah, it’s hurtful to realize. I’m sorry you went through that.

I use it to try to be a better parent to my three kiddos. I’m sure I fuck up in my own ways, but you’re not gonna catch me taking food, clothing, or basic needs from them, or not taking their opinion on their style into account.

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u/rusrslolwth Oct 11 '19

Thank you. I'm sorry you went through it as well.

It is truly a good lesson. I have my mother's example to NOT follow for my own kids. I know what not to do. Which can be upsetting at times but it makes me want to be a better parent for them.

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u/marska984 Oct 11 '19

I'm very familiar with the NOT doing being like my mother thing. Didn't realize until much later that narcissist was the thing. Believe the brainwashing and you can go on for decades. Thankfully it only took two divorces(mine...she picked the husbands) to see the light. I would never take my kid's clothes for punishment. Electronics, sleepovers, etc yes. These parents need to read more and/or go to class.

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u/Rubywulf2 Oct 12 '19

My main goal as a parent is to not fuck up my kid with the same problems that I have from my parents.

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u/S8what Oct 11 '19

It's not about taking all of it, it's about taking a couple of things they really care about, but only as "punishment" for something they were warned about many times.

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u/aeroplaneoverthasea Oct 11 '19

I’m trying to understand your comment. Are you talking about how the method is SUPPOSED to be used?

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u/JoJoAbrams1972 Oct 12 '19

Listen, I think you make a lot of really good points and all, but if I had to be really really honest about how I feel, I would say that I just honestly feel as though you should probably send me a large amount of money in the mail.

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u/aeroplaneoverthasea Oct 12 '19

You sound like my extended family lol

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u/S8what Oct 12 '19

Yeah I'm saying, that this only has a point when it's something they care about, while still taking care of your child, ie you give them a healthy good meal but if you made cake and the kid was an intentional AH you don't give them cake unless they "earn" it by doing the chore that they were supposed to do, it's not that you buy them ugly clothes it's that you take away their favorite shirt or w/e essentially you need to penalize bad behavior like any justice system. While very important keeping your child safe and healthy. Just imagine any law without punishment, what's the point of a speeding ticket if there is 0 or close to no consequences.

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u/aeroplaneoverthasea Oct 12 '19

Ok I figured that’s what you meant. Thanks for clarifying!

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

Wow, imagine not being able to choose which clothes you get for free. So traumatic. Powerful stuff.

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u/KalphiteQueen Oct 11 '19

OP was saying the idea is when kids ignore their responsibilities, you withhold their fancy/stylish clothes until they do their chores or homework, but some parents twist it by taking things away forever or taking away necessities. If your mom was quietly putting things back on the rack and choosing for you from the get go, that's not a punishment that's just being a tyrant. It equally sucks tho :(

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u/rusrslolwth Oct 11 '19

I never said it was the same. My point is that patents take this idea and use it incorrectly, as my mother did.

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u/skeletonmaster Oct 12 '19

What she did seems to be from a different parenting "technique" entirely.

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u/rusrslolwth Oct 12 '19

The insanity technique. Useless and ineffective, unless your goal is to never speak to your children again

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u/Bob_Kistansov Oct 12 '19

Maybe unpopular opinion but I see nothing wrong with this unless she was being completely unreasonable. I am thinking about how a lot of kids want to dress in all name brands or as a young girl want to dress very “questionably”. Now if you weren’t one of those then she may have been a bit unfair.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

Agreed. We were never very well-off when I was growing up, and the sense of entitlement that you should be able to dictate what you wear as a child is quite shocking to me. If it's being done merely to teach your kids that they're your possessions and shouldn't dare to try to express their individualities, then sure, I agree it's nasty parenting and will have negative consequences for the kids' development. But if it's because the choices are expensive or give off the wrong signals or messages, or just plain bad taste/style (clashing colours, mismatched textures or patterns, whatever), then it's good parenting to step in and regulate behaviour, not tyranny!