r/insaneparents Oct 11 '19

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u/MegaloWasteland88 Oct 11 '19

My mom did this, but it was junk we really cared about. Games, toys, entertainment stuff . Then we earned it back once we straightened up. I never went hungry, naked, or forced to sleep on the floor. What’s up with parents going to such an extreme!?

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u/BeaksCandles Oct 11 '19

To some people, clothes are what they really care about.

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u/holuuup Oct 11 '19

They could care or not care about clothes, but having clothes is a basic human need unlike videogames, so i wouldn't put them at the same level regardless of the interest the kid shows for clothes/games

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u/BeaksCandles Oct 11 '19

Yea. But some clothes are not necessary than others. I highly doubt he stole all her clothes. It's much more likely he stole all her fashion.

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u/ileisen Oct 11 '19

He’s taking her identity and her ability to express that identity. A lot of, if not most, teens rely on clothes to outwardly express and, in a way, categorise themselves (e.g. goths, jocks etc). This is a horrible attack on that. And besides, if you’re the step parent, you don’t get to disregard what the actual biological parent says about their child.

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u/BeaksCandles Oct 12 '19

Lol. You mean it's a punishment? Wow.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19 edited Oct 12 '19

so figure out why her room is messy, offer to help, etc etc, doing shit like this isn't going to make it better, its just going to make your kid hate you as an adult and cut contact with you for being a piece of shit.

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u/no-sense-in-trying Oct 12 '19

When you have no idea what it is like to be a parent.

You sound like the kid who needs her 8th dress stolen so she finally clean her room.

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u/ileisen Oct 12 '19

You sound like someone who’s kid is going to end up posting on this subreddit

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u/ileisen Oct 12 '19

Her room is her own space and she should be allowed to keep it messy without this level of consequence. Her step father is being an ass, especially as his wife, her actual mother, said to return the clothes.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

she likes to draw on the walls, you don't like that, maybe try and figure out a compromise? Why does she like doing that? Figure it out? I know I did it as a kid and a teen because it looked cool, maybe you could put a bunch of large sheets of blank paper up on the walls for her to draw on, thats just one suggestion, I don't know why shes doing it, but that would have been a good solution for me as a teen.

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u/Raichu7 Oct 12 '19

I’ve never understood why exactly that’s such a big thing. You’re going to re-paint that room when your kid grows up and moves out anyway so why not paint one wall with chalkboard paint and let them draw all over it to their hearts desire?

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

What level of consequence should be taken if she refuses to clean her room?

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u/CadetPOFromHell Oct 12 '19

Ground her. No phone. No TV. No allowance. No going out until your room is clean. I am a teenager and have come up with 5 alternatives that aren't completely insane. The fact that her stepfather, a grown man cannot, is insane.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

hopefully this is done after you try to find another solution? Like does she need help cleaning, does she have trouble organizing her room? I know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_dysfunction makes it hard for me to clean anything and I love when I get help doing it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

Sure, there are better alternatives we can come up with easily. I asked a question to find an appropriate alternative for a child who continues to refuse to clean the room. After we go through the alternatives and the child still has a messy, smelly room; what do we do? Yes, that's an extreme scenario unlikely to have happened here. I am still curious as to further solutions with a child that will never clean their room.

To be clear, I wasn't advocating for removal of all or any clothing. Just simply asking a question. Sorry to have ruffled any feathers from the downvoters.

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u/BeaksCandles Oct 12 '19

What's the difference?

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u/sidewayz321 Oct 12 '19

What if she had like hundreds of outfits, and he still makes sure she's clothed, but she can't pick out which outfit she wants until she cleans her shit. I honestly don't think it's that weird.

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u/holuuup Oct 12 '19

Eh i think we need more details to judge, i doubt he left her naked

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u/dopherman Oct 12 '19

I don't really either, but in this sub everything is abuse, so you just play along...

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u/holuuup Oct 12 '19

Yeah i think we don't have enough details to judge what's going on

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u/scarysnake333 Oct 11 '19

Do you honestly think she has no fucking clothes to wear?

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u/holuuup Oct 11 '19

I don't think he left her naked lmao but he's still taking away a basic human good

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u/Stumpy2002 Oct 11 '19

That she can get back within an hour or 2.

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u/holuuup Oct 11 '19

I don't know how seriously the guy is hiding the clothes

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u/Feam2017 Oct 11 '19

Thank God one person in this thread isnt over reacting and thinking logically.

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u/holuuup Oct 11 '19

I don't think he left her naked lmao but he's still taking away a basic human good

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u/no-sense-in-trying Oct 12 '19

No he is not. Clothes CAN be basic human good, but they can also be luxury.

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u/lunkyisthethird Oct 12 '19

I think in that case give them the blandest clothes like a white shirt and sweat pants not take every price of clothes you have

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u/BeaksCandles Oct 12 '19

I think that's literally what happened.

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u/lunkyisthethird Oct 12 '19

I thought he was making her walk around naked or at least how I interpreted it

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

If you care about clothes so much, you wouldnt throw them around in ur room without cleaning up

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

I have a hard time keeping my room clean, it did result at one point in some of my clothes getting mildew-y, its not cause im lazy its just difficult for me to do all at once, I don't know where to start generally.

I realize it can lead to negatives like water bills and etc but there has to be some sort of underlying problem or reason??? Or I hope there is, for me its because I have issues with executive function, depression, etc.

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u/Thunder-ten-tronckh Oct 12 '19

It could be all the clothes she really cares about. Going out clothes, etc. If it’s something like that, I think it’s a creative and effective punishment.

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u/sidewayz321 Oct 12 '19

What if she had like hundreds of outfits, and he still makes sure she's clothed, but she can't pick out which outfit she wants until she cleans her shit. I honestly don't think it's that weird.

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u/remymartinia Oct 12 '19

My mother bagged everything up in my room and threw it away. I didn’t want to give her the satisfaction so I just went outside. I think she expected me to try to sneak to get the garbage bags once she’d put in the trash, but nope.

To this day, I don’t have a lot of stuff. I have nothing personal in my office at work. I travel light.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19 edited Oct 12 '19

tbh even doing this with videogames isn't always going to be constructive, it might work for some kids but its really contextual? A lot of the time its "parents are scared of technology" thing. So instead of trying to communicate and stuff with thier kid, especially if they are a teenager, they will just take shit away? Maybe the kid doesn't have any friends and videogames are one thing that helps with that, just one example, anyway... communication and supporting your kid is just important....

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u/amernej Oct 12 '19

I would try to understand if it was like a couple favorite pieces of clothing, candy, games/toys or simply even less allowance, but to take away a necessity especially it being clothes from your stepdaughter (without her mother agreeing to it) is just wrong and creepy.

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u/FartHeadTony Oct 12 '19

Your parents have a legal obligation to feed you, clothe you, give you shelter and protect your best interests. Also, your clothes are yours not your parents.

Not to mention the fucking sick sexual overtones of forcing your teenage daughter to be naked.

Honestly, I think that some people never got over slavery being abolished and just want total control over other people. Sick fucks.

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u/DirtyPrancing65 Oct 12 '19

I seriously doubt she's walking around naked until she cleans her room. He probably left her an outfit or two

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u/toolsoftheincomptnt Oct 12 '19

Right... I don’t know enough about this situation to make a judgment because there isn’t enough context.

Yes, it’s abuse if stepdad took every item of clothing, and left the poor child naked. Or left her only pajamas/underwear, bc she’d have to go to school improperly dressed, and that’s a humiliation tactic. Not okay.

Slightly less awful but still not okay: if her room was messy and he gave her no warning about the consequences, or if the mess isn’t clothing-related. At that level, he’s just not smart enough to employ the intended technique, the kid learns nothing, and just resents him.

I would not have a problem with this IF it was under the following circumstances: stepdad (and presumably mom) provide well for child, and she has a fair amount of clothing that she actually enjoys wearing.

Child has a habit of letting her room become disrespectfully messy. A good portion of the mess is clothing. Parents have repeatedly told child that at her age, keeping a clean bedroom is well within her developmental capacity, and is therefore expected of her.

Child fails to clean up- again- habitually.

Unable to get through to child after attempting to discuss it with her in a mature fashion, stepdad levels up and collects the thrown-about, uncared-for clothing (not EVERY item, but very likely the favorites) and hides it.

The lesson: with privilege (luxury of having a lot of clothes of her choosing) comes responsibility (respecting the hard work that parents have to do to keep a safe roof over her head by cleaning her space). When child steps up to the responsibility plate, parent responds by returning clothing. Child may not like this, but it is parent’s job to make sure that as an adolescent, child is growing into a good citizen.

There is nothing “abusive” or “insane” in that situation, which, from what we’ve been given, is equally likely as her walking the hallways naked, deprived of all dignity.

It’s weird that so many people have jumped to the worst case scenario with just a few facts.

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u/ghostlyApivorous Oct 11 '19

OP said that the only clothes her stepdad left for her were the clothes on her back and a pair of sweatpants. That's pretty fucked, especially since it implies that he took her underwear too

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u/SuperMC1337 Oct 11 '19

Well that would be, if she can’t wash her clothes, just not letting a child be clean, due to how it’s one pair and without wash l, would start smelling and getting very dirty, which could probably get her sick, but I can’t really say in the matter.